Re: OCD/ natural treatments-

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In a message dated 5/26/2004 5:42:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,

pruep@... writes:

> The paed is going to try OLE for other kids with tic disorders now!

>

That's great, Prue! I love hearing when someone makes some headway like that.

Nell

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thanks Prue. I think I might try this with . Did you experience any

kind of " dye-off " or negative behaviors when you first introduced this to

Harry?

OCD/ natural treatments-

> Harry was 'chewing' all the time and would touch his right elbow on his

right hip twice then the left etc. Plus these weird hand movements. It was

really awful. With all his problems he has always looked 'normal'. I thought

this was more of a disability, because it was so obvious. I hated it - so

very happy that it went.

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> The paed is going to try OLE for other kids with tic disorders now!

> Prue

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--- We saw a lot of ph's Obsessive compulsive stuff disappear

while on the Valtrex, in fact I'd venture to say we saw it all

disappear. Definitly a viral thing for us. With OLE, we get less, but

it's still there. Mostly it's observed when something " bad " has

happened, he'll persevere on the topic, almost obsessed, many

reassurances later, he'll stop. So I guess the OCD stuff is mostly

verbal with us now, not so much physical. We stopped Valtrex, and

that's when we saw the OCD return. But it's never gotten back to the

degree of severity it use to be. Prior to Valtrex, it was awful, I

mean this kid on his way up to his top bunk, if he skipped a step on

the ladder, and I mean hands and feet didn't touch it, he'd have to

go the bottom and start all over again, and this was constant about

everything. Transitioning only took place if everything fell neatly

in order. You want to talk about a regime, this kid had me trained.

And I indulged him because I realized even back then his eyes, ears

and body didn't perceive his environment the way I did, and this was

the only way for him to maintain control. Good luck to you on the

viral issue. We're still fighting it.

In , " PP " <pruep@b...> wrote:

> Harry was 'chewing' all the time and would touch his right elbow on

his right hip twice then the left etc. Plus these weird hand

movements. It was really awful. With all his problems he has always

looked 'normal'. I thought this was more of a disability, because it

was so obvious. I hated it - so very happy that it went.

>

> The paed is going to try OLE for other kids with tic disorders now!

> Prue

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--- We saw a lot of ph's Obsessive compulsive stuff disappear

while on the Valtrex, in fact I'd venture to say we saw it all

disappear. Definitly a viral thing for us. With OLE, we get less, but

it's still there. Mostly it's observed when something " bad " has

happened, he'll persevere on the topic, almost obsessed, many

reassurances later, he'll stop. So I guess the OCD stuff is mostly

verbal with us now, not so much physical. We stopped Valtrex, and

that's when we saw the OCD return. But it's never gotten back to the

degree of severity it use to be. Prior to Valtrex, it was awful, I

mean this kid on his way up to his top bunk, if he skipped a step on

the ladder, and I mean hands and feet didn't touch it, he'd have to

go the bottom and start all over again, and this was constant about

everything. Transitioning only took place if everything fell neatly

in order. You want to talk about a regime, this kid had me trained.

And I indulged him because I realized even back then his eyes, ears

and body didn't perceive his environment the way I did, and this was

the only way for him to maintain control. Good luck to you on the

viral issue. We're still fighting it.

In , " PP " <pruep@b...> wrote:

> Harry was 'chewing' all the time and would touch his right elbow on

his right hip twice then the left etc. Plus these weird hand

movements. It was really awful. With all his problems he has always

looked 'normal'. I thought this was more of a disability, because it

was so obvious. I hated it - so very happy that it went.

>

> The paed is going to try OLE for other kids with tic disorders now!

> Prue

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Wow-this sounds so familiar. I never thought of my daughter having

OCD problems but I guess she does. I just started OLE myself so I'll

have to start her on it soon. Thank you for sharing!

Becky

> > Harry was 'chewing' all the time and would touch his right elbow

on

> his right hip twice then the left etc. Plus these weird hand

> movements. It was really awful. With all his problems he has always

> looked 'normal'. I thought this was more of a disability, because

it

> was so obvious. I hated it - so very happy that it went.

> >

> > The paed is going to try OLE for other kids with tic disorders

now!

> > Prue

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> >

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> --- We saw a lot of ph's Obsessive compulsive stuff disappear

> while on the Valtrex, in fact I'd venture to say we saw it all

> disappear. Definitly a viral thing for us. With OLE, we get less, but

> it's still there.

I have never used Valtrex. My son needs OLE and Lauricidin for his

viral issues, plus GSE/OoO/Uva ursi for the yeast that the anti-virals

cause. If I drop any of these, he will regress.

Dana

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Why did you stop the Valtrex? What were the side effects?

> > Harry was 'chewing' all the time and would touch his right elbow

on

> his right hip twice then the left etc. Plus these weird hand

> movements. It was really awful. With all his problems he has always

> looked 'normal'. I thought this was more of a disability, because

it

> was so obvious. I hated it - so very happy that it went.

> >

> > The paed is going to try OLE for other kids with tic disorders

now!

> > Prue

> >

> >

> >

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Valtrex is a medication originally designed to treat Herpes 1 and 2, not

cure, but treat, in that it keeps it in dormant stage and you don't suffer

through the active stages. It has been found to work surprisingly well for

kids with Herpes 6, active cases that is. Pretty decent med. from what I

could read up on it, I read up on each individual ingredient, and I look for

things like side effects, potential damage to organs, how long does it

circulate in the body, where and how does it get dumped by the body, what

happens when it encounters cells not carrying the virus, does it utilize or

block any natural biochemical process' in the body. From what I could find,

it bumps along in the body until it encounters cells carrying the virus,

then it's activated, otherwise it just bumps along until it is excreted,

neither requiring nor utilizing anything to be excreted. While we saw

excellent things while my son was on it, actually phenomenal things, to the

degree a couple of agencies tried to take the autism label off my son, the

active levels of the virus were exactly as high as they had been six month

prior. I've learned that mercury in tissue in the body is an excellent

hiding place for the virus, so while it is doing something, it wasn't wiping

it out for us. And when Dr. Goldberg ceased to be my son's doctor, away went

our prescription for Valtrex. We are using other things to treat the viral

component now.

Re: Re: OCD/ natural treatments-

> What is Valtrex?

> Migdalia (DEE)

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Valtrex is not used to treat OCD, only prescribed for active virus Herpes 1,

2 and 6.

Re: Re: OCD/ natural treatments-

> so which on is recommended for OCD Valtrex or OLe?

> Migdalia (DEE)

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We had to stop the Valtrex because it is a prescription only med. and Dr.

Goldberg was no longer our sons' doctor. Our pediatrician wasn't comfortable

enough with it to continue the prescription, and once we saw Dr. Megson,

several months had already gone by. Dr. Megson offered to continue the

prescription, but I wanted to see how we would do with natural anti-virals.

Dr. Megson isn't going to order any blood draws or stools until after the

flagyl treatment, so it'll be a couple of months yet before I see if the

natural treatments have had any effect on the virus.

Re: OCD/ natural treatments-

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> Why did you stop the Valtrex? What were the side effects?

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> > > Harry was 'chewing' all the time and would touch his right elbow

> on

> > his right hip twice then the left etc. Plus these weird hand

> > movements. It was really awful. With all his problems he has always

> > looked 'normal'. I thought this was more of a disability, because

> it

> > was so obvious. I hated it - so very happy that it went.

> > >

> > > The paed is going to try OLE for other kids with tic disorders

> now!

> > > Prue

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