Re: is this regression/adjustment?

[Guest guest]

Have you tried just AFP Peptizyde alone, without the other enzymes,

to see if things work out a little better for now until your little

one gets adjusted? Maybe 1 capsule of AFP per meal/snack...

Before enzymes, our daughter was like a " wild cat " ...I know what you

mean when you say, " It's exhausting " . The combination of NF and AFP

have worked out best for her (had to start very slowly with the NF

from 1/8th capsule to, eventually, 1 capsule per meal/snack). She's

also on the Feingold Diet(no artificial colors/flavors/preservatives)

and no soy/corn/chocolate.

Is your child taking any other supplements? Maybe you can stop one

or two of them now that he's taking the enzymes and absorbing more

nutrients from his foods (might be getting a little too much of

something).

Hang in there and keep us posted on how things go...

Gretchen

> My son is on AFP, ZP and some NF (probably not getting it every

> day). We've been working up the dosages for oh, a month or so

now. His bm's seemed better, but every day he's having at least one

yucky poop with the grainy stuff. We've just had stool analysis

done but don't have the results yet.

>

> He's on gfcf, but really restricting to a few foods, almost all of

> which would not be scd legal. We've not experienced the

phenomenon

> of improved food choices on the diet or on the enzymes. I try to

> give him different things - he won't touch them.

>

> He's also really getting worse with certain transitions - getting

> into the tub, getting out of the tub after he's adjusted to being

in,

> getting into pajamas. Lots of resisting, kicking, etc. It's

> exhausting.

>

> Just when I think I'm getting a handle on things, I start to feel

I

> don't have a clue - again. We see Dr. McCandless next month and I

> guess will get the results of the testing and her recommendations.

>

> R

[Guest guest]

,

He does get AFP and ZP every day with every meal, but not the NF

every day. I'm actually not sure when to give that, so I just give

it probably once a day. I've read that it can cause stools to be

looser, and we don't need that.

I haven't tried Olive Leaf Extract yet - I keep reading about it -

and it would be great if it helped with anxiety. I believe I've read

that you shouldn't use grapefruit seed extract with SSRIs, and he's

on Prozac. I don't know enough about OLE - the indications for using

it, etc.

R

> > My son is on AFP, ZP and some NF (probably not

> > getting it every

> > day). We've been working up the dosages for oh, a

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Gretchen,

He's taking the occasional Flintstone's Complete multivit, an

occasional epsom salts bath. Culturelle and DHA has been recommended

for him. The Culturelle seemed to give him awful BM's but I haven't

tried it in awhile. He hates the DHA - I've tried the Nordic

Naturals for kids little capsules and also the lemon flavored fish

oil. I think the oily texture is aversive to him.

He eats little protein - just eggs and peanut butter with the rare

gfcf chicken nugget. So, I thought that giving the Zyme Prime made

sense.

I had him on the regular Pep at first and thought I was seeing

hyperness at bedtime, so switched to the new AFP. No difference.

So, now I use one or the other. I had made up some chocolate wafers

(melted chocolate chips with the enzymes mixed in) that I keep in the

freezer, so I'm using those up. When I try sprinkling the enzymes on

his scrambled eggs and grits they immediately get unappetizingly

watery, and he won't eat it. I know there's been some discussion

about sprinkling on foods vs. other methods of administration. I

figure whatever gets it in there is better than nothing.

We did start out slowly with just the AFP for a week, then slowly

adding the ZP. But, if you think it would help I can back off to

just the AFP again.

My goal and maybe it's misguided, is to reintroduce regular foods.

Thanks so much for the input.

R

> Have you tried just AFP Peptizyde alone, without the other enzymes,

> to see if things work out a little better for now until your little

> one gets adjusted? Maybe 1 capsule of AFP per meal/snack...

>

> Before enzymes, our daughter was like a " wild cat " ...I know what

you

> mean when you say, " It's exhausting " . The combination of NF and

AFP

> have worked out best for her (had to start very slowly with the NF

> from 1/8th capsule to, eventually, 1 capsule per meal/snack). She's

> also on the Feingold Diet(no artificial

colors/flavors/preservatives)

> and no soy/corn/chocolate.

>

> Is your child taking any other supplements? Maybe you can stop one

> or two of them now that he's taking the enzymes and absorbing more

> nutrients from his foods (might be getting a little too much of

> something).

>

> Hang in there and keep us posted on how things go...

>

> Gretchen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Flintstones complete?? Did you know that these are colored with food

dye--some kids are set off by food dyes. Not to mention that it also

contains aspartame, which again, some kids have a real problem with.

I'd also want to know if these are free from common allergens like

yeast, soy, etc. If the box doesn't directly state it, then I'd

assume they have these things in there. I'm just saying, you might

be able to find a children's vitamin that is better than flintstones

if you really want to give a children's multi vit. Animal Parade by

nature's way is one option... vitamin research products also has a

children's chewable that is free from these artificial

ingredients/allergens... I'm sure there are others out there. Here

is a FAQ for flintstones that does list which food dyes and the

aspartame and xylitol, etc.

http://www.bayercare.com/htm/flintfaq.htm

W

> Thanks Gretchen,

>

> He's taking the occasional Flintstone's Complete multivit, an

> occasional epsom salts bath.

[Guest guest]

> that you shouldn't use grapefruit seed extract with SSRIs, and he's

> on Prozac. I don't know enough about OLE - the indications for using

> it, etc.

GSE can slow down phase I liver function. If your child already has

slow phase I, then GSE will cause metabolism problems with the SSRI.

If the phase I is normal or fast, then there is no problem. This is

the info Andy told me, so that is my source.

If you know your child's phase I function, then you can consider this.

If you don't know, then it is best to not use GSE, use something else.

Dana