What are we doing wrong? Drunk again

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In a message dated 3/18/2004 10:57:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

parent616@... writes:

> He

> giggles too much, runs in circles and generally seems drunk.

For my son this is yeast. Are you keeping sugar as low as possible?

Nell

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I would suspect yeast, keep going. Yeasy toxins contain alcohol like

substance, drunk is a good description, Sam used to do this so I;ve been thee

and have

the T-shirt

MAndi in UK

> Today he had 4 good bowel movements but was toe-walking tons. Tonight

> he went into drunk mode which he often does in the evenings. He

> giggles too much, runs in circles and generally seems drunk. What is

> going on in his body and why does he get in this state? It scares me

> to watch it.

>

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My son had 2 really good days the likes of which we had not seen since

the early days of his regression. He was much happier, talking more,

babbling with expression, tolerating our company and eye contact was

so beautiful.

Today he had 4 good bowel movements but was toe-walking tons. Tonight

he went into drunk mode which he often does in the evenings. He

giggles too much, runs in circles and generally seems drunk. What is

going on in his body and why does he get in this state? It scares me

to watch it.

Hope

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He does not get much sugar and had none today.

Is yeast worse at night? This usually happens before bedtime.

Hope

> In a message dated 3/18/2004 10:57:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> parent616@h... writes:

>

> > He

> > giggles too much, runs in circles and generally seems drunk.

>

> For my son this is yeast. Are you keeping sugar as low as possible?

>

> Nell

>

>

>

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>>>> He does not get much sugar and had none today. Is yeast worse at

night? This usually happens before bedtime.

What does he usually eat for supper, or take any supplements in the

evening? Look at if you are giving him something that might promote

yeast OR no giving something that fights off yeast...for example, if

you gave enzymes, anti-fungals, or GSE in the day but not in the

evening.

The 'drunk' behavior is often yeast because alcohol is one of the

yeast by-products - like in brewing beverages.

.

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I really spent a lot of time trying to figure out why my daughter's " drunk "

state always happened at night. But it was like she would build it during the

day, and then a trigger would go off at 7:00. I think it was Dana who put it

best that it is an accumulation, and night the slightest thing can tip the scale

and set things off. Even on good days, we have to wait until the evening to

see if it was really a " good " day. Know the drunk state too well.

Good luck,

Kari

What are we doing wrong? Drunk again

My son had 2 really good days the likes of which we had not seen since

the early days of his regression. He was much happier, talking more,

babbling with expression, tolerating our company and eye contact was

so beautiful.

Today he had 4 good bowel movements but was toe-walking tons. Tonight

he went into drunk mode which he often does in the evenings. He

giggles too much, runs in circles and generally seems drunk. What is

going on in his body and why does he get in this state? It scares me

to watch it.

Hope

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> Today he had 4 good bowel movements

If my son had 4 bms in one day, I would be looking for the problem.

>> but was toe-walking tons.

This can be a sign of constipation.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Tonight

> he went into drunk mode which he often does in the evenings. He

> giggles too much, runs in circles and generally seems drunk.

Generally yeast

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

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Thanks for your posts everyone. They made me think.

There is nothing in his diet that would promote yeast except 1 serving

of fruit per day (we are SCD) and he didn't have that yesterday. We

tend to give him most of his supplements with dinner - vitamins,

minerals, enzymes, EFAs. We also give him yogurt (SCD goat) with

probiotic in it before bed. We recently upped the yogurt amount

because we really thought it might be responsible for the increased

eye contact, speech. We also give him yogurt in the morning. Last

night he did not want his dinner but he had eaten a lot during the

day. When we tested him in the summer he tested higher in bacteria

than yeast and the only abnormal yeast marker was Aribanose. He had

been on Nystatin for a while and I continued him on it for several

more months until I decided to stop because it didn't seem to be doing

anything.

I just had this hypothesis that the yogurt was really helping to kill

off the bacteria and that was the improvement we saw but then all this

dead bacteria was sitting around and somehow hurting him or becoming

food for the yeast. Does this make sense to anyone?

Any ideas of what we could do to get it out?

Hope

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> tend to give him most of his supplements with dinner - vitamins,

> minerals, enzymes, EFAs.

You give enzymes only with dinner?

EFAs make my son goofy.

>>He had

> been on Nystatin for a while and I continued him on it for several

> more months until I decided to stop because it didn't seem to be doing

> anything.

Nystatin does not address all strains of yeast.

Dana