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Thanks for your response.

Our practitioner wants us to lower copper (hair tests

done on our entire family of 5, all of us show

elevated copper, ie. 20 - 53 ug/g), thus the zinc and

molybdenum. After reading your bit about copper, it

makes sense that he would need it b/c of the

myelination issue.

I was told that elevated copper could be a sign of one

not absorbing fatty acids well and/or a sign that the

gall bladder isn't functioning well..... all this

information!

, how do you propose I go about deciding what

supplements to give my son? Is it worth getting a DAN

doc? I want to be very selective about which

supplements I give to him and get the most mileage out

of them....

Are you saying, re: my last post, that getting a blood

test is futile? My thought is that it may help

indicate what areas need help.

Thank you for your help.

Elise

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elevated copper is putting it mildly at those figures.

the problem is there is systemic failure of transport and excretion

mechanisms

i have written extensively on this in 'minerals i take' in the index

of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3

it also has the supplements i use

you can't ride two horses at once which seeing a doctor rather than

doing this yourself is.............

an issue with copper is wether there is signficant copper oxide from

house water

the testing is futile cause you have to paint with a very broad brush

to get enough of the house covered to get anywhere. testing is

pointilistic or a childs paint brush compared to a house paint brush

if you see what i mean...........

houstonni enzymes, a hair test and broad based supplementation are

painting with a house brush.

what form of zinc and molybdenum are you giving?

also when replying you have to look a bit at what is included from

previous posts below wht you ahve posted, its a balance between

including what is useful and jogs peoples memeory and what is too

long and clogs up the lists.

> ,

> Thanks for your response.

> Our practitioner wants us to lower copper (hair tests

> done on our entire family of 5, all of us show

> elevated copper, ie. 20 - 53 ug/g), thus the zinc and

> molybdenum. After reading your bit about copper, it

> makes sense that he would need it b/c of the

> myelination issue.

> I was told that elevated copper could be a sign of one

> not absorbing fatty acids well and/or a sign that the

> gall bladder isn't functioning well..... all this

> information!

> , how do you propose I go about deciding what

> supplements to give my son? Is it worth getting a DAN

> doc? I want to be very selective about which

> supplements I give to him and get the most mileage out

> of them....

> Are you saying, re: my last post, that getting a blood

> test is futile? My thought is that it may help

> indicate what areas need help.

> Thank you for your help.

> Elise

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1)According to your website, it would appear that the

liquid form of zinc (Zinc Drink by Metagenics) and the

liquid form of Molybdenum (E-lyte 7 which is Ammonium

Molybdate) are not the ideal forms of either.

2)We live in a newly remodeled house of two years and

most probably have copper pipes. Our house water

filter is by Multi-Pure.

3)I tried to put the hair tests on but the file was

too big - message sent back. Next I will send one test

at a time.

4)I get what you mean re: house versus child's paint

brush approach... it's just that if you're not a

professional house painter, it's difficult to know

where to begin.

5)Re: copper... it seems that my daughter's high

copper of 53ug/g must indicate it is unbioavailable

copper that is floating around and once I bring that

down with the correct forms of zinc and molybdenum,

then I can start on copper sebacate... is this

correct?

6)Excuse my lengthy posts - I'm new at this. If anyone

can forward me " posting etiquette " I would greatly

appreciate it.

Thank you.

Elise

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is the multipure before the copper plumbing? the multipure is a

carbon block filter. wow now i look at this again there is some sort

of copper disaster area out there.

came across this interesting post

" Ours is in the refrigerator door. Right now that's all that's

filtered.

As I said in the other thread, I used to have a whole house system

and I turned it off. Sitting useless in the garage. Carbon type.

LOVED IT!!! However, the water that came out of it also loved our

copper plumbing. We noticed that we were leaching more copper than

should be expected, so I got online and started looking. Apparently,

water filtered this way will slowly degrade copper pipes. This can

make the water a potential health hazard to those who drink it. Plus,

it's not good for the plumbing either. So, to my shagrin, we turned

it off. The excess copper sloughing stopped, but now our water smells

like the city pool. Now looking into point-of-use for the shower.

According to what I've seen online, the whole-house filtering is

pretty good with PVC plumbing, but bad news with copper. "

from

http://dirtdoctor.com/forum/archive.php/o_t/t_3001/water-filtration-

systems.html

so i think the first step with the copper is to check this out and

how much copper plumbing you do have.

you could have set the jpg scan at too high a resolution giving to

large a file say 1 meg. proably 100-200k files are fine.

re posting etiquette just watch you how much stuff is in the post

trailer and delete what you think is not relevant.

like there is my post then your post which is relevant then below

that is some unrelevant stuff.

another tricky thing with filters is if they overload they can then

dump a lot of what was filtered out itno the water and you can end up

with very toxic loads. presumably there are overflow mechanisms like

with car oil filters but its something i would check out.

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