Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 i would not pay to much attention to the counting rules. bismuth can be in some pottery glazes. if he was getting a lot of bismuth from some where then by itself it would be causing a lot of problems, but since the minerals transport is disordered then you cna't say for certain that he is getting it from the enviroment though with such a high level it seems likely he is. the thing is not to panic and just work things through. i think his liver is not working welll, not making enough bile. low pottasium cna be malabsorbtion issues how much vitmain c are you giving? i would attempt to understand the issues with ala mobilising and redistributing mercury before giving it. the way you are giving it may well be dangerous. what form and how much zinc are you giving? with supplementation you have to cross every t and dot every i, it would help to know exactly what you are giving and amounts. > I think the last part of my note got cut off so I'm reposting. Sorry for the > inconvenience. > > The counting rules state in step one for essential elements that 5 or less > over 50% range is high probability of mercury poisoning and mineral transport. > My son has 7. > > Step 2 of counting rules asks for number of essential elements that is in the > red in either low or high. If 4 or more there is high probability of mercury > poisoning and mineral transport. My son has 3 with an additional 1 starting > to go into the red. > > In the toxic elements portion, his bismuth is almost at the 95% range. I > can't understand where he's getting this from. He's been getting alpha lipoic > acid for several weeks about 2x a day and I can't understand why he's not > eliminating this toxic element. , his copper is very high and also his zinc > but the zinc isn't quite as high in the red as the copper. Does this mean I > shouldn't be giving him any copper or zinc? What is also strange is that I've > been giving him about 250 mg of magnesium aspartate but no calcium and yet his > calcium is high and his magnesium is just average. He also gets potassium in > his magnesium supplement as well as potassium ascorbates in his vit. C and > still his potassium is low. Thanks for any help you can give. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 STOP giving your son the alpha lipoic acid at this point. From what I know it's dangerous to give it that way, and you could be harming your son. If you look in the " files " section, find Andy's Protocol and go there and read about chelating. It talks about using DMSA and ALA to chelate and the safe protocols to follow. Also, you will probably want to give your son supplements he is low on as well as the standard ones given during chelation. These are listed in the files also under Andy's Protocol. > I think the last part of my note got cut off so I'm reposting. Sorry for the > inconvenience. > > The counting rules state in step one for essential elements that 5 or less > over 50% range is high probability of mercury poisoning and mineral transport. > My son has 7. > > Step 2 of counting rules asks for number of essential elements that is in the > red in either low or high. If 4 or more there is high probability of mercury > poisoning and mineral transport. My son has 3 with an additional 1 starting > to go into the red. > > In the toxic elements portion, his bismuth is almost at the 95% range. I > can't understand where he's getting this from. He's been getting alpha lipoic > acid for several weeks about 2x a day and I can't understand why he's not > eliminating this toxic element. , his copper is very high and also his zinc > but the zinc isn't quite as high in the red as the copper. Does this mean I > shouldn't be giving him any copper or zinc? What is also strange is that I've > been giving him about 250 mg of magnesium aspartate but no calcium and yet his > calcium is high and his magnesium is just average. He also gets potassium in > his magnesium supplement as well as potassium ascorbates in his vit. C and > still his potassium is low. Thanks for any help you can give. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 >>He's been getting alpha lipoic > acid for several weeks about 2x a day and I can't understand why he's not > eliminating this toxic element. I don't know if ALA will remove bismuth. It is probably better to find out if he is receiving and current daily exposures. Check my link in the previous message. >>, his copper is very high and also his zinc > but the zinc isn't quite as high in the red as the copper. Does this mean I > shouldn't be giving him any copper or zinc? You might try giving him a *little* zinc. Some kids will show high in zinc when they are not retaining it. What is also strange is that I've > been giving him about 250 mg of magnesium aspartate but no calcium and yet his > calcium is high and his magnesium is just average. High vitamin A can cause too-high calcium. In a previous message, you wrote that you are giving: >>Vitamin A-beta carotene about 2000 IU >>Vitamin A-Retinyl Palmitate about 7000 IU And then you wrote >>I did buy the twinlab dry A and dry D and tried it but it seem to >>cause bad behavior. Try dropping all the vitamin A, except maybe the beta carotene which is not really vitamin A. See if that helps. The 7000 IU of vitamin A is more than USRDA, and if your child already has sufficient vitamin A, it can cause problems, including the over-calcium. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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