Re: Uva Ursi and probiotic questions (Terri pls note) Dana and all

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your responses to both my posts. The person I was

corresponding with re: uva ursi has responded to me, and that

dialogue has been very, very helpful. I have a few outstanding

questions, and I wonder if you an opinion.

I had forgotten you were using uva ursi to treat yeast. I'm curious

about why yeast would respond to uva ursi, when technically it's an

antibacterial and antiseptic, NOT an antifungal.

And, are you giving it with food to treat yeast?

Since it is an antibacterial, my directions from Pfeiffer say to

give the probiotic away from the uva ursi. I know your son never

tolerated probiotics, but I'm struggling with timing issues and

wonder what you would do. How far apart would you time the uva ursi

and probiotic? I might be able to swing an hour, but in the morning

before school, it's really more like a half hour. This morning I

gave the uva ursi (which my son thinks tastes TERRIBLE in his juice)

but not the probiotic because I only had 30 minutes.

My other options are to give the probiotic at 4 p.m. and 9 p.m.

Isn't that too close together? Or to only give the probiotic once a

day, at night.

Thanks for your help.

[Guest guest]

Dana, an update.

I spoke with a nurse at Pfeiffer today several times. She assured

me that uva ursi is indeed an anti-fungal (the Pfeiffer pharmacist

earlier had assured me it wasn't). She also said that the uva ursi

and a probiotic have to be given " a minimum " of an hour apart.

But I forgot to discuss with her whether to give the uva ursi on a

full or empty stomach. It's kind of a moot question, because I

don't think he'll tolerate it on an empty stomach.

>

> Thanks for your responses to both my posts. The person I was

> corresponding with re: uva ursi has responded to me, and that

> dialogue has been very, very helpful. I have a few outstanding

> questions, and I wonder if you an opinion.

>

> I had forgotten you were using uva ursi to treat yeast. I'm

curious

> about why yeast would respond to uva ursi, when technically it's

an

> antibacterial and antiseptic, NOT an antifungal.

>

> And, are you giving it with food to treat yeast?

>

> Since it is an antibacterial, my directions from Pfeiffer say to

> give the probiotic away from the uva ursi. I know your son never

> tolerated probiotics, but I'm struggling with timing issues and

> wonder what you would do. How far apart would you time the uva

ursi

> and probiotic? I might be able to swing an hour, but in the

morning

> before school, it's really more like a half hour. This morning I

> gave the uva ursi (which my son thinks tastes TERRIBLE in his

juice)

> but not the probiotic because I only had 30 minutes.

>

> My other options are to give the probiotic at 4 p.m. and 9 p.m.

> Isn't that too close together? Or to only give the probiotic once

a

> day, at night.

>

> Thanks for your help.

[Guest guest]

wrote:

I had forgotten you were using uva ursi to treat yeast. I'm curious

about why yeast would respond to uva ursi, when technically it's an

antibacterial and antiseptic, NOT an antifungal.

I don't know why uva ursi would help for yeast, but found a number of

websites mentioning that it can:

http://www.christianadhd.com/candidayeast.html

http://www.loudzen.com/canary/conditions/candida.html

http://www.herbalgram.org/youngliving/expandedcommissione/he098.asp -

quote from this last one:

" The Commission E reported that preparations made from uva ursi act

antibacterially in vitro against Proteus vulgaris, E. coli, Ureaplasma

urealyticum, Mycoplasma hominis, Staphylococcus aureus, Pseudomonas

aeruginosa, Friedl‰nder's pneumonia, Enterococcus faecalis,

Streptococcus strains, and Candida albicans. The antimicrobial effect

is associated with the aglycone hydroquinone released from arbutin

(transport form) or arbutin waste products in the alkaline urine. A

methanol extract of the preparation (50%) is said to have an

inhibiting effect on tyrosinase activity. The forming of melanin from

DOPA using tyrosinase as well as from DOPA-CHROM through

auto-oxidation is also said to be inhibited by the preparation. "

And, are you giving it with food to treat yeast?

As I mentioned, I give it with his other vitamins, with meals.

Haven't been spending any energy trying to space everything out,

although I might if I thought we had a rampant infection going on. I

didn't find any specific recommendations, but would think you'd want

to give any anti-candida thing away from probiotics if possible, for

maximum effectiveness.

Since it is an antibacterial, my directions from Pfeiffer say to

give the probiotic away from the uva ursi. I know your son never

tolerated probiotics, but I'm struggling with timing issues and

wonder what you would do. How far apart would you time the uva ursi

and probiotic? I might be able to swing an hour, but in the morning

before school, it's really more like a half hour. This morning I

gave the uva ursi (which my son thinks tastes TERRIBLE in his juice)

but not the probiotic because I only had 30 minutes.

I think an hour would be better than nothing, but maybe you'd just

want to give the uva ursi after school instead? I've put the various

bad tasting tinctures into empty capsules to give before. This is not

too difficult to do and tastes better, if your kid can take pills.

My other options are to give the probiotic at 4 p.m. and 9 p.m.

Isn't that too close together? Or to only give the probiotic once a

day, at night.

If I was trying to split it up, I'd give probios breakfast and dinner

and uva ursi after school and bedtime

hth, Terri

Thanks for your help.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for your help, Terri. In case you're confused, I had

originally put your name in my first post because I was curious

about the effects of probiotics and uva ursi when given directly

with our BrainChild supplements (which I see you've answered here).

All this added info is a nice bonus! Thanks again.

> I had forgotten you were using uva ursi to treat yeast.

[Guest guest]

> I had forgotten you were using uva ursi to treat yeast. I'm curious

> about why yeast would respond to uva ursi, when technically it's an

> antibacterial and antiseptic, NOT an antifungal.

I don't know why it works for this yeast. It just does.

> And, are you giving it with food to treat yeast?

I give supplements about 1-1/2 hours before meals.

> Since it is an antibacterial, my directions from Pfeiffer say to

> give the probiotic away from the uva ursi. I know your son never

> tolerated probiotics, but I'm struggling with timing issues and

> wonder what you would do. How far apart would you time the uva ursi

> and probiotic?

I have read that it takes about 1-1/2 hours for things to move thru

the stomach, so that amount of time seems right to me.

I might be able to swing an hour, but in the morning

> before school, it's really more like a half hour. This morning I

> gave the uva ursi (which my son thinks tastes TERRIBLE in his juice)

> but not the probiotic because I only had 30 minutes.

Yep, it tastes nasty.

> My other options are to give the probiotic at 4 p.m. and 9 p.m.

> Isn't that too close together? Or to only give the probiotic once a

> day, at night.

If I had the choice to use probiotics, I think I would do uva ursi

during the morning/afternoon, and probiotics at night. This would

actively kill the yeast during the day, and the probiotics would have

time to colonate the gut during the night.

Dana