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Hi Violet,

She may not need all the supplements she's now receiving, or not as

much, since the enzymes help the body absorb better. She might be

getting too much of something. You might want to consider stopping

the SuperNuthera. Brainchild Nutritionals has a great liquid

vitamin and mineral program (imo). You can start out with as little

or as much as her body needs...Their website is:

www.Brainchildnutritionals.com

I'm sure others will have suggestions too.

I'm glad things are getting better!

Best wishes,

Gretchen

> Hi,

>

> I started my daughter with No fenol 3 weeks ago. She has had a die

> off period (crying, refusing to follow instructions) but these

have

> now gone and improvements have just now begun to come through

> (clearer speech, improving articulation and understanding). Dark

> circles under her eyes resurfaced after I started the No fenol

and

> seem to be getting worse. She is on 100% GFCF and 100% Feingold

diet

> and I have not introduced any new foods. I am concerned that the

> dark circles are getting worse, could it mean something or those

it

> take time to go.

>

> She has been doing really great and can be classified " recovered

PDD-

> Nos " , and now has mainly speech problems (articulation).

>

> She is on Candex, Supernuthera, Zinc, B6, Eyeq, Q10, Enzymeaid,

> Probiotic.

>

> Appreciate any response.

>

> Regards

> Violet

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What you describe is a pattern seen many times before. Try reducing

or dropping the Supernuthera and B6 first. Synthetic B6 is commonly

made from coal tar (same stuff that FG avoids). Supernuthera has a

huge amount of B6 which most people do not do well with. With

enzymes, the excessive B6 can become much more of a problem than

before because enzymes can make not just food more available to the

body, but also medications and supplements.

After than, you can try taking out or reducing the other supplements

one at a time and see if that helps. Doing the epsom salts might help

too.

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Hi,

About 3 weeks ago I posted a message about dark circles under my

daughter's eyes increasing after I started her on No Fenol. I just

want to say many thanks to all who responded, I used just about all

the advise given. The dark circles are now more or less all gone

now.

Her Supernuthera was with P5P and after the response I recalled an

article I read about P5P having problems in the FG diet. I contacted

her nutritionist and changed to the simple form of Supernuthera and

also reduced her dose. I could not get Epsom salt to buy over here

but realized that my daughter only drinks less than a cup of water a

day. So I boosted her intake to about 6/7 cups of water a day.

The supplements she takes are almost like an equation which gives

the result, whenever I subtract one there is some type of regression

that goes on past 3 weeks, and I now realize that same should go

with introducing anything new (I need to rebalance the dosages).

God Bless

Violet

> Hi,

>

> I started my daughter with No fenol 3 weeks ago. She has had a die

> off period (crying, refusing to follow instructions) but these

have

> now gone and improvements have just now begun to come through

> (clearer speech, improving articulation and understanding). Dark

> circles under her eyes resurfaced after I started the No fenol

and

> seem to be getting worse. She is on 100% GFCF and 100% Feingold

diet

> and I have not introduced any new foods. I am concerned that the

> dark circles are getting worse, could it mean something or those

it

> take time to go.

>

> She has been doing really great and can be classified " recovered

PDD-

> Nos " , and now has mainly speech problems (articulation).

>

> She is on Candex, Supernuthera, Zinc, B6, Eyeq, Q10, Enzymeaid,

> Probiotic.

>

> Appreciate any response.

>

> Regards

> Violet

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For those of you using No Fenol to keep yeast under control, do you

use it on a daily basis, or only when you have yeast? In other

words, does it lose its effectiveness if used everyday?

Also, is there a risk of bacterial overgrowth with using the No Fenol

on a regular basis as there seems to be with other products that

fight yeast?

My son just made an AWESOME comeback after I started the No Fenol a

few days ago!

Thanks

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No risk of bacteria issue that I'm aware of. No, No Fenol doesn't lose it's

effectiveness over time, although there may come a point where the body is

sufficient to produce the enzymes needed and No Fenol is no longer required.

No Fenol

>

>

> For those of you using No Fenol to keep yeast under control, do you

> use it on a daily basis, or only when you have yeast? In other

> words, does it lose its effectiveness if used everyday?

>

> Also, is there a risk of bacterial overgrowth with using the No Fenol

> on a regular basis as there seems to be with other products that

> fight yeast?

>

> My son just made an AWESOME comeback after I started the No Fenol a

> few days ago!

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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You can get SCD information from http://www.pecanbread.com - we also

don't have any DAN doctors here so I use the search function at

http://www.danasview.net and you can get information on almost any

aspect of autism, including biomedical, there.

As for the rash, did you just start any sort of new protocol, or did

he eat anything different than usual? My kids have that type of

rash, particularly on their upper arms. Treating yeast, using

enzymes (they take Houston chewable Zyme Prime, No Fenol and AFP

Peptizyde) and keeping a lot of things out of their diet still,

notably dairy and anything artificial, and sugar, has helped. They

still get it from allergies, yeast, small amounts of casein, or

other various intolerances.

No Fenol has been amazing for us. If you're dealing with yeast or

phenol issues, it is worth a try.

Amy

>

> Hi everyone. Hope everyone is doing well this morning. I'm

wondering, I have an unusual situation from some others here. My

son will eat anything, tolerant or not and his is reacting with red,

raised bumpy rash. I am wondering if the No Fenol will allow him to

eat less or at least process the stuff better?

>

> I was told by a fellow mom in the area that there are no good

autism-friendly docs just the kind that give an rx and send you on

your way. There is one doc that is autism friendly but hard to get

into. I'm considering SCD as well as enzymes, should I go to a

DAN!, get the protocol in print and absorb it, there is also a

gastro doc that is SCD friendly, etc. I'm in rural Indiana and just

about scared to go to the doc for this rash!

>

> Someone help please?!?!?!?

>

> Thanks.

> April.

> Mom of 7yoASD, 3yo (dare I say normal developing!)

>

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