Re: , Dana, Mr. Houston,twins, vomiting, enzymes?

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> I gave maybe one Pep this Sat., and my daughter Elena threw up

several times Sat. midnight, Tues. a.m. when just woke up like dry

heaves nothing to throw up, and again this Weds. at 2 a.m.

I am not sure I am following your timeline. Did she throw up because

you gave her Pep again after not giving it for a week? Or did she

throw up after only one day without it? Or did she throw up from the

first day off it?

Dana

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that,

She was taking Pep about 2 x daily for the past week or two, but prior to that

she has consistantly taken Pep 3 x daily with all meals since the beginning of

Dec. So we have had a successful run of 4 months with the Pep., so I thought I

would try not giving it.

Last Saturday I may have given her one Pep., but nothing since last Sat. and she

has thrown up Sat. 12 midnight, Tues. 7 a.m., and Weds. 2 a.m.

Her throw up was large in quantity, and it wasn't just the last meal. It was

like the food from the day was just sitting there in her stomach. It had lots

of liquid and parts of food.

Each session of throwing up is more than just once, she will lie back down and

within 1/2 to 1 hour she will go through it again till her stomach is empty.

Last night she woke up after she was done with her throwing up, and told me she

was hungry. I told her she could have water, she said she wawnted juice. I

watered down some juice, but I did put 1Pep and 1/4 no-phenol in it. She drank

it all, and I was hoping she wouldn't loose it again because it hadn't been

that long since her last vomite. She did keep it down. I was so relieved, I

just had a feeling she was thowing up because she didn't have the enzymes, but I

know from what I read in 's book is that a dependancy doesn't follow when

enzymes are stopped. I gave her 1 Pep & 1/4 cap culturelle with breakfast and 1

Pep with lunch today and she seems to be feelig well, much more active and

healthy looking. I hope that she will have a good night tonight, I think she

will.

Are there any exceptions to children becoming dependant on it? She was able to

digest her food before. Did I go about trying to go off the enzymes the wrong

way?

Guilty feeling Mom,

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> From: " danasview " <danasview@...>

> Date: 2005/04/20 Wed AM 11:35:12 EDT

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> Subject: Re: , Dana, Mr. Houston,twins, vomiting, enzymes?

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[Guest guest]

" Are there any exceptions to children becoming dependant on it? She was able to

digest her food before. "

To me this says her gut is not healed. If she can't digest things properly she

needs the extra boost of the enzymes. If she was doing well I don't understand

why you would want to stop them. If it was to see if her gut was healed, to me

this would say no. I wouldn't call that dependant I would call that a leaky gut

still in need of healing.

But thats just my train of thought.

in Oceanside, CA

Fighting for one child, in hopes it helps another child.

Updated 4-11-05 to include...

~Doing the best I can with the hand I was dealt~

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[Guest guest]

> Last Saturday I may have given her one Pep., but nothing since last

Sat. and she has thrown up Sat. 12 midnight, Tues. 7 a.m., and Weds. 2

a.m.

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> Her throw up was large in quantity, and it wasn't just the last

meal. It was like the food from the day was just sitting there in her

stomach. It had lots of liquid and parts of food.

This sounds like she needs the enzymes.

>>thowing up because she didn't have the enzymes, but I know from what

I read in 's book is that a dependancy doesn't follow when

enzymes are stopped.

This sounds like she does not tolerate certain foods, and the enzymes

are helping her. I would not call it a " dependency " , tho, unless you

want to consider that the foods were impacting her negatively *before*

enzymes, but now the way they are impacting her has changed. This is

what I have personally experienced. Before enzymes, foods impacted me

one way, and since enzymes the way that the foods have impacted me has

gone thru several changes. I am still not tolerating certain foods,

but the way they impact me has changed.

Did that make sense?

>>I gave her 1 Pep & 1/4 cap culturelle with breakfast and 1 Pep with

lunch today and she seems to be feelig well, much more active and

healthy looking. I hope that she will have a good night tonight, I

think she will.

Sounds good.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Yes she probably does still need enzymes, maybe wishfull thinking on my part. I

hope the impact of non-tolerated foods are less on the body as she has the

asthma issues and meds. that she is still on (zyrtec and singular nightly) My

goal is to get her off the meds, or at least minimize them without compromizing

her breathinging.

Her twin (4 yrs.)is doing much better socially, focusing, expanding veral

skills with questions, and using more complete sentence structure. I guess the

big questions is how long do they need enzymes? For example if I take off

of Pep. and notice that in some point in time, either pre-school or

kindergarden, that his learning abilities are lacking to the norm (for lack of

better words)can I start him up again?

He has done so well that I am taking him out of early intervention and putting

him in the same pre-school as his sister for their last year before

kindergarden.

, Thank you for your time

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> From: " danasview " <danasview@...>

> Date: 2005/04/21 Thu AM 10:15:39 EDT

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> Subject: Re: , Dana, Mr. Houston,twins, vomiting, enzymes?

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[Guest guest]

Keep in mind that the flu is still making the rounds, so don't rule it out as

the cause.

> , Dana, or Mr. Houston

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> I have been giving my daughter and son Pep since begining of Decemeber. I

thought I

would try not giving it to them to see how things go. I eleminated one pep a

day, the

dinner meal time, off and on for about 1 week.

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> I gave maybe one Pep this Sat., and my daughter Elena threw up several times

Sat.

midnight, Tues. a.m. when just woke up like dry heaves nothing to throw up, and

again

this Weds. at 2 a.m.

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> I have not given her any different foods, and there does seem to be chuncks of

food in

throw up.

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> Have you heard of this before, suggestions, what to do, start up the Pep

again? Has she

become dependant on the enzymes? I thought that couldn't happen. My daughter

was the

one with all the food allergies, has had blood work for Ige and was positive,

quite high for

everything.

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> Is there an adjustment period when going off? The throw up is quite

" propelled " .

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> Please help, or let me know if I need to call you

> Thank you, Sheperd

[Guest guest]

> Yes she probably does still need enzymes, maybe wishfull thinking on

my part. I hope the impact of non-tolerated foods are less on the

body as she has the asthma issues and meds. that she is still on

(zyrtec and singular nightly)

For myself, enzymes don't address all foods. And those foods which

enzymes don't address, I will have asthma symptoms if I eat them. So

you might want to start by trying to determine which food/s she might

not tolerate, even with enzymes, and remove those foods. This helped

my asthma almost 100%.

>>For example if I take off of Pep. and notice that in some

point in time, either pre-school or kindergarden, that his learning

abilities are lacking to the norm (for lack of better words)can I

start him up again?

You can certainly start giving them again.

> He has done so well that I am taking him out of early intervention

and putting him in the same pre-school as his sister for their last

year before kindergarden.

Great!

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for your reply,

That darn virus hit me hard last night. Our family will be going to TN today to

see Train Event for the kids. Will return home Sunday.

Have an allergist apt. coming up next week for Elena, but more interested in

another apt. with a Lic. Nutritionist M.H. CHT for & Elena. Josie

informed me of her expertise. Will update later.

Thanks Again,

> From: " danasview " <danasview@...>

> Date: 2005/04/22 Fri AM 11:56:29 EDT

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> Subject: Re: , Dana, Mr. Houston,twins, vomiting, enzymes?

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[Guest guest]

Yes, it surely was a bug of some sort, has made it's way through our family,

except for my husband, yet!

Thank you,

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> From: " Devin " <devin.houston@...>

> Date: 2005/04/21 Thu PM 03:40:59 EDT

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