Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 >>>> My 2.5 yr old DS is starting Nystatin treatment for the first time this week. I have two questions plaguing me: >>>> 1. Should we take proactive steps to treat for the bacteria that may increase as a result of killing yeast? I would take a probiotic to put good microbes in the gut to be there while the harmful bugs are being eliminated. The harmful bacteria become a problem when the yeast are eliminated and nothing else is added to take up the space. It is like killing off all the weeds in your yard (burn down, tilling them under, etc). If you don't put in grass seed (probiotics), what is the first thing to pop up in the yard and become the most proliferent? the weeds (the harmful bacteria) >>>> 2. I have heard that you should stop supplementation when you initially treat w/Nystatin? All supps? Are enzymes ok? We currently supp w/all 3 HNI enzymes, calcium, magnesium, zinc, acidophilus, CLO, EFAs, Vit. C, & Yeast Aide. The enzymes would be good to continue. This will help your child's body to make the most out of whatever nutrition he takes in which is necessarily during a yeast treatment due to the stress it puts on the body. Enzymes will also help the yeast treatment work more effectively. Particularly if you take No-Fenol, Candidase or Candex type enzymes with the yeast treatment. If the die-off becomes difficult, try adding in more proteases to help remove the yeast cell debris and lessen the die-off reaction. Epsom salts may also help with this. I read from a dr on yeast ( S of Feast Without Yeast and an autism doc), that if you have yeast don't give B vitamins (particularly B6) as these feed yeast. I read that in another yeast book too but I don't know why it is those vitamins in particular. The minerals should be fine though. Zinc helps with immune function in particular and magnesium helps with calming and neuro function. Is yeast aide one with the yeast-fighting herbs? if so, continue that one two just because the more yeast fighting things you can get in there, the better they can assis the nystatin. This may very well eliminate any bacteria problem from even starting. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Thanks , so much! I was reading Dr. Bruce Semon's chapter on Treating Yeast in ASD kids (Ch. 12) from Dr. Shaw's book. It confirms some of what you said but left a few things out, like the B6 issue, leaving minerals in, etc. He did say to stop vitamins. Don't know why, but I suppose I'm comfortable with that. Any thoughts on that yourself? H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Hi, My son just stop Nystatin 3 months ago just because hasn't Candida anymore. I gave him Nystatin for 8 months, and of course no sugar (only Stevia leaf for sweeting his drinks), no yeast, no preservatives (the vinegar is one of them), no flavorings, no gluten and casein. My son has now 4 years old and I will start next week to give him TD-DMPS (dr. Buttar's protocol). Used to give him enzymes, calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium, methylcobalamin (MB12) powder, vitamin C, DMG, Coenzyme Q10, EnZyme-Complete/DPP-IV, No-Fenol , BIOTIN, Pro-Bio-Gold and BIO-KULT like probiotic. I never stoped to give him these, still is takeing. What can I tell you else? My son was better day by day, made amazeing progresses... Don't know enough english to tell you how is my son after GF, CF and Nystatin diet. I'm not a doctor for telling you what is better to do, just can say that I never stop supplementation. All the best and good luck! Starting Nystatin...should we treat for increased bacteria? My 2.5 yr old DS is starting Nystatin treatment for the first time this week. I have two questions plaguing me: 1. Should we take proactive steps to treat for the bacteria that may increase as a result of killing yeast? 2. I have heard that you should stop supplementation when you initially treat w/Nystatin? All supps? Are enzymes ok? We currently supp w/all 3 HNI enzymes, calcium, magnesium, zinc, acidophilus, CLO, EFAs, Vit. C, & Yeast Aide. Thanks in advance!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Hi , I read where you were talking about starting TD-DMPS. Are you actually doing it or at the doctor's? I am thinking about this for my daughter. Thanks, Angelia > > Hi, > My son just stop Nystatin 3 months ago just because hasn't Candida > anymore. I gave him Nystatin for 8 months, and of course no sugar (only > Stevia leaf for sweeting his drinks), no yeast, no preservatives (the > vinegar is one of them), no flavorings, no gluten and casein. My son has > now 4 years old and I will start next week to give him TD-DMPS (dr. > Buttar's protocol). Used to give him enzymes, calcium, magnesium, zinc, > selenium, methylcobalamin (MB12) powder, vitamin C, DMG, Coenzyme Q10, > EnZyme-Complete/DPP-IV, No-Fenol , BIOTIN, Pro-Bio-Gold and BIO-KULT > like probiotic. I never stoped to give him these, still is takeing. What > can I tell you else? My son was better day by day, made amazeing > progresses... Don't know enough english to tell you how is my son after > GF, CF and Nystatin diet. I'm not a doctor for telling you what is > better to do, just can say that I never stop supplementation. > All the best and good luck! > > > Starting Nystatin...should we treat for increased > bacteria? > > > > > My 2.5 yr old DS is starting Nystatin treatment for the first time > this week. I have two questions plaguing me: > > 1. Should we take proactive steps to treat for the bacteria that > may increase as a result of killing yeast? > > 2. I have heard that you should stop supplementation when you > initially treat w/Nystatin? All supps? Are enzymes ok? We > currently supp w/all 3 HNI enzymes, calcium, magnesium, zinc, > acidophilus, CLO, EFAs, Vit. C, & Yeast Aide. > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Hi, Angelia I'm not from USA and lost time tried to find a doctor to order my son TD-DMPS. Finally found one two weeks ago and I call AMT Pharmacy, have send by fax the medical prescription (they wanted that my son's doctor calls there, but he doesn't speak english, so in the end ask me for the license number of him....); cost me 160 dolars and one of these days must to receive at home this transdermaly form of DMPS. What I know is that dr. Rachid Buttar's TD-DMPS is effective for children under the age of 9 for a complete cure; is compose by DMPS conjugated with zinc and glutathione; with it you chelate a little bit out every 48 hours; TD-DMPS haven't oxidative reaction like DMPS one; Important is the child is well mineralized on the Off Day (the day when you treat with TD-DMPS must to avoid that the child takes metals - like: Zn, selenium, Mg, Ca... - but next day the child must have double dose of them, expecially extra calcium and magnesium). Anyway, if you start with, treatment will continue until Hg levels came back down and the protocol is available through AMT pharmacy. I will start apply TD-DMPS imediatelly and I will let you know everything is going on. My choice was TD-DMPS cause I'm afraid of old methodes of chelation and because TD-DMPS even if is slower, is safer and a continous flow. If you are interesting about, in Google search for " dr. Buttar " , and read something about him. Starting Nystatin...should we treat for increased > bacteria? > > > > > My 2.5 yr old DS is starting Nystatin treatment for the first time > this week. I have two questions plaguing me: > > 1. Should we take proactive steps to treat for the bacteria that > may increase as a result of killing yeast? > > 2. I have heard that you should stop supplementation when you > initially treat w/Nystatin? All supps? Are enzymes ok? We > currently supp w/all 3 HNI enzymes, calcium, magnesium, zinc, > acidophilus, CLO, EFAs, Vit. C, & Yeast Aide. > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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