ongoing parasite issue

[Guest guest]

I was going to mention this also. Parasites have a 3 month life cycle, you

need to keep hitting them at every stage. Black Walnut for 2 months floowed by

Wormwood Oil for 2 months was effective for a freind of mine. I used Biocidin

from Biobotanicalresearch.com which says it hits yeast, bacteria and parasites

so if you have the ping pong thing going on that might be one to consider. We

did 10 days of Flagly years ago with good effect but continued on with the

Biocidin after. There are two types of Biocidin - orginal and advanced, I prefer

the original.

Nasty little critters parasites

MAndi in UK

> I am sure you already know about Black Walnut for parasites, but I

> thought I would mention it, just in case.

>

[Guest guest]

My 7-year-old son has tested positive for Blastocystis (a parasite)

for almost two years now, despite countless different natural

remedies (oil of oregano, parasite purge, and others). The only

thing that has helped at all is being on Flagyl, a very strong

antibiotic, which I fear now is producing terrible yeast overgrowth

issues. He is also taking Nystatin and probiotics but seems to be

regressing in ways that mystify us.

Starting enzymes about three weeks ago, we saw some terrific

improvements right away, in appetite, behavior, language, etc. but

he was still incontinent (the main earmark of this parasite. On

flagyl he doesn't have accidents). We put him on another course of

flagyl and he seems to have regressed in virtually every department.

Obviously, we'll take him off the flagyl but does anyone have any

success stories with getting rid of a stubborn parasite? Might being

on enzymes longer eventually help this situation?

What about battling yeast if it's happening even while on Nystatin?

Anyone have any good ideas with that? Thank you Cammie

[Guest guest]

>>>> despite countless different natural remedies (oil of oregano,

parasite purge, and others). The only thing that has helped at all is

being on Flagyl, a very strong antibiotic, which I fear now is

producing terrible yeast overgrowth issues.

This was the same thing we experienced. The over-the-counter

supplements work great for health maintenance and mild to moderate

problems, but for really severe issues, a prescription compound may

be needed.

>>>>Starting enzymes about three weeks ago, we saw some terrific

improvements right away, in appetite, behavior, language, etc. but he

was still incontinent (the main earmark of this parasite.

Okay...good. Enzymes working. It might take longer to thoroughly rid

the body of pathogens and heal the gut.

>>>>We put him on another course of flagyl and he seems to have

regressed in virtually every department.

Well, there might be a synergistic interaction between the flagyl now

and the enzymes (the enzymes increased the effectiveness of the

flagyl). So you are getting more die-off that before. Research has

shown this positive interaction with yeast and bacteria treatments.

It is sort of like what we experienced with the severe bacteria with

my younger son. 5 months of aggressive dosing with culturelle and

enzymes did help control the problem noticeably. But it didn't wipe

it out. So we did a round of antibiotics (colloidal silver in our

case) and this whipped it. After that the enzymes and probiotics at a

typical dose worked great at keeping the bad bacteria out.

>>>Might being on enzymes longer eventually help this situation?

I think so. At least help it to be better than it would be otherwise.

Since flagyl and nystatin are both prescription meds what does your

doctor say?

.

[Guest guest]

I am sure you already know about Black Walnut for parasites, but I

thought I would mention it, just in case.

There have been discussions elsewhere on how drugs like Nystatin and

Diflucan actually create a monster yeast problem after you stop. This

happened to my daughter on Diflucan. The worst behavior ever.

I try to stay away from GSE, and use it as my last line of defense for a

heavy hitter. That works pretty well for us. If you fear a major yeast

problem - GSE is what I would use. If its moderate - I would try olive

leaf, Candex, and no fenol. You may try to reduce carbs further, and no

sugar.

ongoing parasite issue

My 7-year-old son has tested positive for Blastocystis (a parasite)

for almost two years now, despite countless different natural

remedies (oil of oregano, parasite purge, and others). The only

thing that has helped at all is being on Flagyl, a very strong

antibiotic, which I fear now is producing terrible yeast overgrowth

issues. He is also taking Nystatin and probiotics but seems to be

regressing in ways that mystify us.

Starting enzymes about three weeks ago, we saw some terrific

improvements right away, in appetite, behavior, language, etc. but

he was still incontinent (the main earmark of this parasite. On

flagyl he doesn't have accidents). We put him on another course of

flagyl and he seems to have regressed in virtually every department.

Obviously, we'll take him off the flagyl but does anyone have any

success stories with getting rid of a stubborn parasite? Might being

on enzymes longer eventually help this situation?

What about battling yeast if it's happening even while on Nystatin?

Anyone have any good ideas with that? Thank you Cammie

[Guest guest]

Dear Cammie,

My son also had this parasite. We treated it with the Bioclear Program (it

was prescribed through Pfeiffer - it was two years ago and I don't remember

much about it except it had several different parts - capsules and

drops...wish I remembered more. I think you can research it on the

Internet).

I remember we also used Uva Ursi and garlic. We used Nystatin (recommended

by Pfeiffer) for a short time. The combination of all of the above got rid

of the Blastocystis and was finally potty trained...But it also

seems to have made room for YEAST which it took us another hellish year and

a half to get under control...For yeast, Dana's tried and true Grapefruit

Seed Extract seemed to make the most difference...We also used Saccharomyces

Boulardii, Three-Lac (also helped a lot), and Caprylic Acid.

Primal Defense Probiotic was a big weapon in the yeast wars. We used

therapeutic dosages (started at 1 cap/day and worked up to 6/day...stayed on

6 for three months, then worked back down), and this seemed to put the final

nail on the yeasties' coffin. His last Comprehensive Stool Analysis came

back yeast-free, good in Lactobacillus (a first), but with bacteria So

now we've experienced everything...Well, maybe not everything, but I don't

really want to experience everything ............Except the good stuff

Hope this helps!

, mom to and

ongoing parasite issue

> My 7-year-old son has tested positive for Blastocystis (a parasite)

> for almost two years now, despite countless different natural

> remedies (oil of oregano, parasite purge, and others). The only

> thing that has helped at all is being on Flagyl, a very strong

> antibiotic, which I fear now is producing terrible yeast overgrowth

> issues. He is also taking Nystatin and probiotics but seems to be

> regressing in ways that mystify us.

>

> Starting enzymes about three weeks ago, we saw some terrific

> improvements right away, in appetite, behavior, language, etc. but

> he was still incontinent (the main earmark of this parasite. On

> flagyl he doesn't have accidents). We put him on another course of

> flagyl and he seems to have regressed in virtually every department.

> Obviously, we'll take him off the flagyl but does anyone have any

> success stories with getting rid of a stubborn parasite? Might being

> on enzymes longer eventually help this situation?

>

> What about battling yeast if it's happening even while on Nystatin?

> Anyone have any good ideas with that? Thank you Cammie

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/13/04 9:51:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Ajwilson@... writes:

> web site explains the necessary repetitions for killing them

> (eggs and all). If you are interested, I can try to find the web site again.

>

Abby,

That would be great.

TIA,

Robin

[Guest guest]

>>I am sure you already know about Black Walnut for parasites, but I thought

I would mention it, just in case.

Dr Hulda has a parasitic remedy with black walnut, wormwood and cloves

that you can purchase on the Internet. She is a Canadian biochemist (I

think) who has done lots of research into parasites and their connection to

disease. The web site explains the necessary repetitions for killing them

(eggs and all). If you are interested, I can try to find the web site again.

Abby

[Guest guest]

Mandi,

How would you compare Biocidin to GSE? After I get through this lovely round of

antibitoics, I'm going to go back to natural yeast killer/probiotics for a few

weeks and then when we get another school break try GSE. Many have seen major

come backs with diflucan and some with nystatin, anyone see this with GSE?

Assuming a strict diet and heavy probiotics would follow.

Thanks,

Kari

Re: ongoing parasite issue

I was going to mention this also. Parasites have a 3 month life cycle, you

need to keep hitting them at every stage. Black Walnut for 2 months floowed by

Wormwood Oil for 2 months was effective for a freind of mine. I used Biocidin

from Biobotanicalresearch.com which says it hits yeast, bacteria and parasites

so if you have the ping pong thing going on that might be one to consider. We

did 10 days of Flagly years ago with good effect but continued on with the

Biocidin after. There are two types of Biocidin - orginal and advanced, I

prefer

the original.

Nasty little critters parasites

MAndi in UK

[Guest guest]

I prefer Biocidin, its slower but you seem to get less of the ping pong

between types of flare up and it doesn;t give Sam a rash which GSe always did

thought I was never sure if that was related to the GSE or the dieoff

MAndi

> How would you compare Biocidin to GSE?

[Guest guest]

http://www.curezone.com/clark/parasites.asp and

http://www.drhuldaclark.org/therapy_parasite.asp

are a couple of webpages dealing with the issue of parasites and Dr 's

research and remedies. I think the second one also sells the remedies in

capsule form. I can't tell you if they sell good quality or not.

Her remedies are available from lots of people as she publishes the recipes

in her books, but the potency varies depending on the quality of the

ingredients. http://ia.com/ is recommended by people in the herbal

community as providing good quality (read strong) tinctures that can be used

with either kids or adults.

Please understand that I'm not recommending you use this on your child. It

has been successfully used on kids, but you must do research on the three

herbs in it and be satisfied that you can use it. I'm not saying this

because I believe that the remedies are not safe but because there are

possible interactions between some herbs and medicines. So please read the

information on these sites well as they all contain information on the herbs

used.

Regards

Abby

[Guest guest]

Thank you SO much to everyone who offered suggestions about my 7 year-old's

parasite issues. I got more ideas in three days than I have in months of going

to doctors. My question is for people who have used Black Walnut Oil with

children: our doctor says it's okay to try this, but he doesn't usually

prescribe it for children as it's very toxic. What are the doses people have

used

and how long did they keep it up? Our son has Blastocystis hominis which I'm

learning is a particularly finicky parasite. We're also using wormwood oil, as

per Hulda 's website recommendations. We're planning to follow her

guidelines and then try Biocidin but I'm curious what other people encountered.

Thank you again for all the help. Cammie

[Guest guest]

Dear Cammie,

As I remember, Biocidin has black walnut oil in it along with a lot of other

things. tolerated it well (and he is very sensitive). However, we

did have a yeast problem afterwards, so be sure to use good probiotics...

, mom to and

Re: ongoing parasite issue

> Thank you SO much to everyone who offered suggestions about my 7

year-old's

> parasite issues. I got more ideas in three days than I have in months of

going

> to doctors. My question is for people who have used Black Walnut Oil with

> children: our doctor says it's okay to try this, but he doesn't usually

> prescribe it for children as it's very toxic. What are the doses people

have used

> and how long did they keep it up? Our son has Blastocystis hominis which

I'm

> learning is a particularly finicky parasite. We're also using wormwood

oil, as

> per Hulda 's website recommendations. We're planning to follow her

> guidelines and then try Biocidin but I'm curious what other people

encountered.

>

> Thank you again for all the help. Cammie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>My question is for people who have used Black Walnut Oil with

children: our doctor says it's okay to try this, but he doesn't usually

prescribe it for children as it's very toxic.

I see that you refer to Black Walnut Oil and Wormwood oil. Do you mean

ticture? I've never heard of either one being an oil. Dr definitely

made a ticture.

I've used Black Walnut (capsules) for 2-3 weeks on myself after visiting

India many years ago and feeling like I had some sort of parasite problem.

I had no side effects at all. I used it again (ticture) to do a Hulda

style cleanse a couple of years back and again, no side effects at all.

Again about 2-3 weeks. I should have repeated, but didn't as I didn't feel

I had any real problems.

I think your doctor is ill informed. My herb book (Balch and Balch

Presription for Nutritional Healing) says Black Walnut aids digestion and

acts as a laxative. Heals mouth and throat sores. Cleanses body of some

types of parasites...... It gives no warnings at all and Balch and Balch

are very conservative. If there is any kind of problem with a herb, they

list it. They list problems such as interference with absorption of

vitamins, known conditions when herbs can't be use (like high blood pressure

or during pregnancy) etc.

HTH

Abby

What are the doses people have used

and how long did they keep it up? Our son has Blastocystis hominis which

I'm

learning is a particularly finicky parasite. We're also using wormwood oil,

as

per Hulda 's website recommendations. We're planning to follow her

guidelines and then try Biocidin but I'm curious what other people

encountered.

Thank you again for all the help. Cammie