Guest guest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 > that Livia's problems started when she rec'd her vaccines while she had > an ongoing thrush issue. She had thrush for 3 or 4 months. I think > yeast. Thrush is yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Ron, The way me and most of the parents on the lists have determined if our kids had toxicity issues is by doing a hair test thru doctor data labs. Dont believe it when the docs tell you that a good measure of their toxicity is in the blood and the urine or stool. That only indicates recent exposures. For the original poisoning levels you have to do a hair test. This is because she has probably never had a hair test and that hair has the mercury level indicaters in it(remember if shes mercury toxic , the hair may only show scewed essential elements all over the place and NOT MERCURY)This is due to the fact that mercury screws up the methylation, sulfation, detox ,neuronal, yada,yada,yada,pathways!The mercury is in the tissues,bones teeth from her earlier poisoning.Your kid has a much better chance of recovering if you start earlier versus later. You will see a roller coaster of metals being excreted when you start because the metals get released periodicly(the body is a well created entity)so as to not overwhelm the liver and kidneys. This is if you do Andy Cutlers(doctor of biochemistry)protocol versus the higher levels the Dan docs recommend.The Physicians have studies on using dmsa for lead toxicity and thats why they recommend every 8 hours and higher doses of dmsa.This is too dangerous and lots of the kids regress.Using 1/8 to 1/2 the lbs a kid weighs every 4 hours releases a steady ,flow of metals and doesn't redistribute them to the brain as readily. Why are you waiting ?I would be more afraid of having my kid fowled up for life versus trying to recover them from chelation.You are on the right track with the enzymes because they help the yeast issues and also because the help the organs secrete what they need to digest the food. That's why Livvy had a brown stool, you helped her bile secretion improve by giving her the enzymes.I was like you and was researching for 2 yrs before I started.....what a wasteof all that precious time!!!!!!!!!!Cutler has already done the research for you,along with many dedicated and kind hearted physicians, not to mention all the research all we parents have already done.Tim Buie at Mass General Hospital in Boston told me he wanted to pick my brain because he learns more from all the parents he talks to than the other docs.The effalex is an essential fatty acid.These kids will have to probably take all the supplements for the rest of their life to stay " on " ( unless the pharmaceutical companies figure out how to undo what they have done to our kids).Take care,Miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Hi, I'm brand new here. My name is Eileen & my 5 year old is . I am in the middle of reading " Enzymes for Autism & other Neurological Conditions " by DeFelice. I know you're here somewhere & I just want to say thanx a million for all your hard work!! I am reading a couple of posts (I'm at work & sneaking) & I already have some questions: who is Dr Andy Cutler & what is HIS protocol? does it differ greatly from the DAN protocol? I very much would like to start on these enzymes ( & myself as well) but like all of you loving & caring parents, my first concern is him!! But I'm so confused I don't know where to start!! I am positive he has yeast overgrowth (me too) we had the bloodwork done by the DAN doc, but all he told me from that was that he has a genetic mutation of a particular enzyme that relates to folic acid!! Granted, its an extremely important thing to know, even if I don't completely understand it----does that mean I shouldn't be giving him any one of these digestive enzymes that are talked about most in the book?? the one's from Houston Nutraceuticals. I already made a big booo booo with my baby. I switched him from dmg (by Food Science) to TMG w/ folinic acid & b12 (by Kirkman) to try to reduce his hyperactivity ( & I didn't know about this mutation/sensitivity, etc to folic acid) & he went stark raving mad for a few days until we stopped it, I got the blood results 2 days later. I can't begin to tell you how guilty I felt! Like I was poisoning the poor thing on purpose, meanwhile I was totally unaware of the underlying issue with the folic acid. Therefore I am soooo scared but determined to help him so could you guys please give me some guideance. > Ron, > The way me and most of the parents on the lists have determined if our kids > had toxicity issues is by doing a hair test thru doctor data labs. Dont > believe it when the docs tell you that a good measure of their toxicity is > in the blood and the urine or stool. That only indicates recent exposures. > For the original poisoning levels you have to do a hair test. This is > because she has probably never had a hair test and that hair has the mercury > level indicaters in it(remember if shes mercury toxic , the hair may only > show scewed essential elements all over the place and NOT MERCURY) This is > due to the fact that mercury screws up the methylation, sulfation, detox > ,neuronal, yada,yada,yada,pathways!The mercury is in the tissues,bones teeth > from her earlier poisoning.Your kid has a much better chance of recovering > if you start earlier versus later. You will see a roller coaster of metals > being excreted when you start because the metals get released periodicly(the > body is a well created entity)so as to not overwhelm the liver and kidneys. > This is if you do Andy Cutlers(doctor of biochemistry)protocol versus the > higher levels the Dan docs recommend.The Physicians have studies on using > dmsa for lead toxicity and thats why they recommend every 8 hours and higher > doses of dmsa.This is too dangerous and lots of the kids regress.Using 1/8 > to 1/2 the lbs a kid weighs every 4 hours releases a steady ,flow of metals > and doesn't redistribute them to the brain as readily. Why are you waiting > ?I would be more afraid of having my kid fowled up for life versus trying to > recover them from chelation.You are on the right track with the enzymes > because they help the yeast issues and also because the help the organs > secrete what they need to digest the food. That's why Livvy had a brown > stool, you helped her bile secretion improve by giving her the enzymes.I was > like you and was researching for 2 yrs before I started.....what a wasteof > all that precious time!!!!!!!!!!Cutler has already done the research for > you,along with many dedicated and kind hearted physicians, not to mention > all the research all we parents have already done.Tim Buie at Mass General > Hospital in Boston told me he wanted to pick my brain because he learns more > from all the parents he talks to than the other docs.The effalex is an > essential fatty acid.These kids will have to probably take all the > supplements for the rest of their life to stay " on " ( unless the > pharmaceutical companies figure out how to undo what they have done to our > kids).Take care,Miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 > who is Dr Andy Cutler & what is HIS protocol? does it differ greatly > from the DAN protocol? I have info and links to both protocols here http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm > that was that he has a genetic mutation of a particular enzyme that > relates to folic acid!! Anything which is called " genetic " , I tend to question, because my son had TWO genetic issues, both of which are no longer there. Many kids don't properly absorb folic acid and they do better with folinic acid. > I switched him from dmg (by Food Science) to TMG w/ folinic acid & > b12 (by Kirkman) to try to reduce his hyperactivity ( & I didn't know > about this mutation/sensitivity, etc to folic acid) & he went stark > raving mad for a few days until we stopped it, My kids did not tolerate TMG, I almost took one of them to the hospital because of the nasty reaction. But it was not because of any folic/folinic acid problem, it was an intolerance to the TMG. > Therefore I am soooo scared but determined to help him so could you > guys please give me some guideance. Not sure exactly what you are asking. You can certainly try HNI enzymes, because so far as I know, they do not contain any folic/folinic acid. Altho if you want to check with HNI to be sure, that would be a good thing. There are a few supplements that generally *require* folic acid, so be aware of that. TMG is one, and B12 is another. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Hi Eilleen, Go to the autism treatment website and go into the files for Andy Cutlers protocol......you do NOT have to be a member to get this info. Hope this helps. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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