Re: Using enzymes while staying GFCF

[Guest guest]

>>>> Please excuse this question if it has been duplicated, but I am

new to the enzyme world and a bit green.

No problem. Ask away!

>>>I'd like to get Luke's body used to the enzymes and perhaps ramp

up to a higher dose before an infraction. Is this the general

practice with enzymes?

Yes. You don't *have* to do it that way, but it is the more

conservative way. And this way you would be able to tell if any

reaction was do to enzymes or that particular food you're testing.

>>>> Also, I'm gearing up to do an elimination diet with Luke. Would

it be wise to not use enzymes during this period? Would enzymes mask

> any effects of the elimination and subsequent adding back in?

This would depend on how you view enzyme use and food tolerance

overall. For example, I would use enzymes because my concern is that

any food eaten will be broken down sufficiently and used for

nutrition. So I would use enzymes and only eliminate foods or

chemicals the enzymes didn't help with. My focus is on healthy gut

and proper digestion overall.

However, someone else may feel that what is important for them is to

know what foods may cause a reaction one way or another (with enzymes

or no) so they can eliminate that food and not take any chances on

something getting through. Then over time, try challenging with that

food again.

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[Guest guest]

It is generally useful to wait a while before challenging the diet, and it

is necessary to keep in mind that foods have many parts, and it may be the

phenols in the tomato sauce on the pizza, or the casein in the cheese, or

the additives and preservatives in the sauce or crust that the child doesn't

tolerate. Doesn't mean no pizza, just means you have to figure out where

your kid falls. We were down to very few foods unfortunately and so adding

things back in one at a time was easy for us, sorry I can't help you there.

But has some good books that are easy to ready and handy

checklists/ cheat sheets to label read and determine what in general is okay

and what isn't. By okay, I mean, you get a child bogged down with food

colorings, additives, preservatives, etc. it can become impossible to tell

what the food is doing. For example. Captain Crunch cereal is not tolerated

by my son. It isn't the oat flour, which I would have been initially

suspicious of, as he had been GFCF for so long, but in fact it is the

preservative BHT that sets him off. Homemade oatmeal cookies do just fine in

him. Plus there is the whole processed versus whole food, cooked versus raw,

and don't even get me started on all the horrible stuff I found out about

microwaves. Anyway. Go slow, keep a log and if you want to challenge

something, ex. oats, make sure the only change is the oats, not the butter,

the chocolate chips, the flour, etc. Good luck.

Using enzymes while staying GFCF

> Please excuse this question if it has been duplicated, but I am new

> to the enzyme world and a bit green.

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> I'm starting Peptizyde with my 4 year old son tomorrow, 1/4 capsule

> per meal. My husband is excited because it could mean Luke might be

> able to eat pizza (his favorite - no success with GFCF facsimiles to

> date) and possibly other things, but I intend to keep him strictly

> GFCF for a time before challenging the enzymes and him with a full

> non-GFCF meal. I'd like to get Luke's body used to the enzymes and

> perhaps ramp up to a higher dose before an infraction. Is this the

> general practice with enzymes?

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> Also, I'm gearing up to do an elimination diet with Luke. Would it

> be wise to not use enzymes during this period? Would enzymes mask

> any effects of the elimination and subsequent adding back in? I

> know that it is difficult to predict how a child will react to

> enzymes, but any personal experience or general knowledge on the

> subject would be appreciated.

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> Thank you!

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[Guest guest]

Also, my daughter doesn't show a bad reaction right away.

Sometimes it's a day or two before we see fallout of a new

additon. We really have to go slow (I've learned the hard way!)

Good luck.

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[Guest guest]

I think that is my son too. We tried SCD and got so frustrated by

Luke not eating that we thought we'd just add gluten and limited

dairy back in since we really didn't know for sure if GFCF was

working. It took about a week before behaviors started to

reemerge. After a month it was apparent that he was on a decline.

We immediately took away all casein and gluten and the behaviors

went away.

> Also, my daughter doesn't show a bad reaction right away.

> Sometimes it's a day or two before we see fallout of a new

> additon. We really have to go slow (I've learned the hard way!)

>

> Good luck.

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[Guest guest]

>>I'd like to get Luke's body used to the enzymes and

> perhaps ramp up to a higher dose before an infraction. Is this the

> general practice with enzymes?

It is a good idea, but there are people who did not do it this way.

Whatever you think is best, do it that way.

> Also, I'm gearing up to do an elimination diet with Luke. Would it

> be wise to not use enzymes during this period? Would enzymes mask

> any effects of the elimination and subsequent adding back in?

My son tolerated no foods. I gave enzymes and then rotated foods to

find what he could eat with the enzymes.

Dana