Re: the giggles

[Guest guest]

I would love any information on the giggles.

My son has been very silly lost of giggles sometimes for a reason and

sometimes not. Has anyone had this happen? Should I be worried? He has been

on

enzymes for 6 months. Any help would be great.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

I would love to start my son on a yeast die off program however, my son's

doctor see no need to. I really don't know if he has a yeast problem. I do

use Primal Defense which as I understand it helps with yeast. What other

symptoms did you see?

Thanks so much.

[Guest guest]

-My daughter would get the " no reason giggles " from yeast. Now that

she's pretty free of yeast flare ups...she just gets them when she is

silly I remember when she was really little (she is 10 now) she

would actually giggle in her sleep(she slept in our room) then we had

the night wakings with the giggles that just would not end (at 3am

she was the ONLY one laughing!) With her its giggles = yeast and

tears = bacteria.

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> I would love any information on the giggles.

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> sometimes not. Has anyone had this happen? Should I be worried?

He has been on

> enzymes for 6 months. Any help would be great.

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> Thanks

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I'm sure you know this but just in case...what you described is precisely

what AFP Pep and regular Pep work on. Of course, my son still gets giggly--I

attribute it to yeast but also I like the mention of the release of tension. In

fact, his yeast test came back clean. (ly, I don't put much credit in

these tests and to me this is proof--I think he is as yeasty as they come.)

Gluten and casein can wreak total havoc on a body. Thank God for Devin!

Robin

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Hello

I used to have the giggles a lot when I was at school. It was the most

lovely feeling in itself and a wonderful release from all kinds of

tension, and I still remember it today, with regret that I haven't

giggled properly most of my adult life. I don't know what's causing it

for your son, but I'd say, don't deprive him of something so fantastic!

Sara

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Hi

At a conference I went to earlier this year, the keynote speaker talked

about giggles. He said, in his experience, it was related to

gluten/casein intolerance. My understanding of his explanation is that

the gluten /casein is not broken down to simple amino acids but rather

stays in longer “poly-peptide” chains which are opioid in nature . Due

to the leaky gut and leaky blood-brain barrier many kids with autism

have, these opioids cross into the blood stream from the gut and then on

into the brain. When they wake up giggling like a 60s college student,

its literally because they are stoned with an opium-like substance.

When they start enzymes (eg peptizyde), the gluten /casein gets broken

down properly and so there’s no opioids and so the giggling eventually

stops. Going anything cold turkey is pretty tough though and so the

kids’ bodies crave the opioids. This doctor said he’d seen kids do just

about anything to get the gluten / casein to satisfy the dreadful

cravings they can get. Especially eat food they’d never touched before,

eat play-dough, etc

I figured that’s one reason why the advice is always “go slow” with the

enzymes - to let their little bodies ease out of the opium addiction.

Re: the giggles

I would love any information on the giggles.

My son has been very silly lost of giggles sometimes for a reason and

sometimes not. Has anyone had this happen? Should I be worried? He

has been on

enzymes for 6 months. Any help would be great.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information everyone. What do you think about removing G/C

completely if I only have some giggles and if he has no other systems? Would

you just stay on the enzymes? I would rather do that because he would be

happier. However I am not sure it is the right thing to do. I have read both

sides. What do you all think?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My son sleep very well and only gets the giggles sometimes. Sometimes I

don't see it for days or even weeks. Would you still assume it is yeast?

Sometimes he can eat G/C and I see no reaction for days if at all. I don't

know

what to make of this, do you have any idea?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

> I would love any information on the giggles.

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> My son has been very silly lost of giggles sometimes for a reason and

> sometimes not. Has anyone had this happen? Should I be worried?

For my son, this was phenol intolerance and/or a yeast problem

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

My older son recently had the giggles and I asked him what was so

funny. He said " nothing really, just my stomach feels all tickly " . I

gave him GSE and he stopped giggling in about an hour.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Robin

To take it a step further . . . if the child has been taking enzymes

for a while and giggling starts up (and its established its not yeast

causing it), then it would be time to see what he got his little hands

onto during the day that didn’t get digested by his normal dose? Or

maybe review the timing of giving the doses? Or maybe increase the

enzymes? Or all three!?

Also, I understand that many children’s own enzyme function normalises

to a greater or lesser extent after a period and they can be weaned off

/reduce the dose of the oral enzymes. However, for the other kids, as

they grow bigger and eat more, is it reasonable to assume they might

need more enzymes to help digest this increase in volume?

Thanks

Re: the giggles

,

I'm sure you know this but just in case...what you described is

precisely

what AFP Pep and regular Pep work on. Of course, my son still gets

giggly--I

attribute it to yeast but also I like the mention of the release of

tension. In

fact, his yeast test came back clean. (ly, I don't put much

credit in

these tests and to me this is proof--I think he is as yeasty as they

come.)

Gluten and casein can wreak total havoc on a body. Thank God for Devin!

Robin

[Guest guest]

The giggles my daughter has are not like the giggles I had as a child. They are

like someone who is in LaLa land, totally out of it.

Sometimes the high of giggling is followed by the low of a meltdown. These

giggles are not necessarily pleasant I think. They are more like someone spaced

out and not in control.

She has giggles that are more what I'd call normal, but the uncontrolled giggles

are not at all the same thing.

Re: the giggles

Hello

I used to have the giggles a lot when I was at school. It was the most

lovely feeling in itself and a wonderful release from all kinds of

tension, and I still remember it today, with regret that I haven't

giggled properly most of my adult life. I don't know what's causing it

for your son, but I'd say, don't deprive him of something so fantastic!

Sara

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[Guest guest]

--My daughter has had clean yeast tests, but when I treated for

yeast anyway, she improved. That kind of giggling is always yeast for

her. Also, her sleep patterns usually get disturbed at the same time.

If I treat for yeast, the giggles usually disappear and she starts

sleeping all night. It could also be that she does not tolerate a

supplement or food, but I would treat for yeast as to eliminate one

possibility.--Tod

> The giggles my daughter has are not like the giggles I had as a

child. They are like someone who is in LaLa land, totally out of it.

> Sometimes the high of giggling is followed by the low of a meltdown.

These giggles are not necessarily pleasant I think. They are more like

someone spaced out and not in control.

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uncontrolled giggles are not at all the same thing.

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> tension, and I still remember it today, with regret that I haven't

> giggled properly most of my adult life. I don't know what's

causing it

> for your son, but I'd say, don't deprive him of something so

fantastic!

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[Guest guest]

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You make some good points. I always give 2 AFP with every meal and if

he eats more gluten and casein than usual, I give him 2 more in the middle of

the meal. For example, we ate lunch out today and he had chicken finger and

fries...2 AFP. His meal came with ice cream that I let him have (no one

yell--I know how unnutritious this was) so I gave him 2 more.

Yet, perhaps for him, he may need more although most kids don't need even

this much.

I'll have to think about it.

Thanks,

Robin

[Guest guest]

I am wondering if yeast and even die-off could be causing our latest giggles.

She has also been agitated a little and last night woke up in the middle of the

night.

We did the first phase of a para-cleanse and started the second one on Sunday.

This product has something for both yeast and bacteria as well as parasites.

The way it works is you give it for 10 days, then are off 10 days, then give

another round. She had been doing really well, but we started to see a little

regression just before starting the second round.

Her appetite has also taken a jump. It's not any one food. She just seems to be

hungry. I am wondering if I need to give more enzymes. Right now she has one Pep

and one Zyme with meals and snacks and I add No Phenol if she is eating a

problem food.

One the good side, we are still seeing little improvements. Mostly in her doing

more things independently. For example, when we get in the car and the radio is

off, she will start telling me to turn it on. For the last two days, she reached

over and turned it on herself. Today, she even attempted to find the station she

wanted.

There have also been other little language jumps. So I am hoping this is just a

little setback or even a bit of detox.

Oh, and she is still wanted to crunch ice like crazy. I am wondering if she

needs additional zinc.

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> tension, and I still remember it today, with regret that I haven't

> giggled properly most of my adult life. I don't know what's

causing it

> for your son, but I'd say, don't deprive him of something so

fantastic!

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[Guest guest]

For MY son giggling comes when he is tired. Just this week I have

also linked it to bright lights. I think when it's dark and he's

tired the normal lights seem to make him laugh too. I talked with

his OT and she said if it's nothing that is interfering with his life

right now, don't worry about it. If he ever starts searching for

lights to make him laugh, then we'll worry. BTW, we are gfcf and use

Zyme Prime and Peptizyde.

[Guest guest]

No one will yell. Part of being a kid is enjoying sweets from time to time.

Considering all the label reading we do, all the different sugars we're

knowledgeable about, and the numerous supplements we give to push/purge

toxins out, our kids are eating more nutritious foods than most.

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> You make some good points. I always give 2 AFP with every meal and

> if

> he eats more gluten and casein than usual, I give him 2 more in the middle

> of

> the meal. For example, we ate lunch out today and he had chicken finger

> and

> fries...2 AFP. His meal came with ice cream that I let him have (no one

> yell--I know how unnutritious this was) so I gave him 2 more.

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> Yet, perhaps for him, he may need more although most kids don't need even

> this much.

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> I'll have to think about it.

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> Thanks,

> Robin

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