Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 > I know this is off topic, but I can't seem to find much information anywhere else. Does anyone have any experience giving their child metal free for mercury chelation? I have read both positive and negative stories about Metal-Free. It is ALA-based, so you can just purchase ALA from a local health food store, if you want. It is also much less expensive that way. I chelated my kids with ALA. If you want to use one of this type of commercial products, I have read more positive stories, and fewer negative stories, with use of PCA-RX. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Thank you Dana. What kind of positive/negative stories have you heard? I just can't seem to find much information on it at all. We were advised to try this by Dorfman, a nutritionist. She seems to have a lot of confidence in it, but yes, it is very expensive. I will ask about PCA-RX at our next visit. I have read both positive and negative stories about Metal-Free. It is ALA-based, so you can just purchase ALA from a local health food store, if you want. It is also much less expensive that way. I chelated my kids with ALA. If you want to use one of this type of commercial products, I have read more positive stories, and fewer negative stories, with use of PCA-RX. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Do you know the cost of Metal Free? I couldn't find it anywhere on the website. Unfortunately I don't have much information on this either and I've been looking too. It was recommended for my son by his doctor. Marissa > Thank you Dana. What kind of positive/negative stories have you heard? I just can't seem to find much information on it at all. We were advised to try this by Dorfman, a nutritionist. She seems to have a lot of confidence in it, but yes, it is very expensive. I will ask about PCA-RX at our next visit. > > > > I have read both positive and negative stories about Metal-Free. > > It is ALA-based, so you can just purchase ALA from a local health food > store, if you want. It is also much less expensive that way. I > chelated my kids with ALA. > > If you want to use one of this type of commercial products, I have > read more positive stories, and fewer negative stories, with use of > PCA-RX. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 We have been using this woth Dr. Hicks for about 8 months or so and we are having (to me) ok results (you know everyone wants to see the numbers off the charts) but Dr. Hicks feels that our sons numbers are good. We have also had some detox issues as well so he added iv glut to the mix. The are several other families in my area that are going very well on it. I have to get it from Hicks and it is $140 a bottle. It is safe. Marla Do you know the cost of Metal Free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I understand that PCA-Rx is much stronger than metal free, so I'd be cautious. I know a mom who completely healed her son with metal-free, but his metal problem was antimony, and he had been unvacccinated. I'm on another list, and there's a woman who RAVES about NDF plus (there is also NDF, which is much stronger, so you'd start with the plus. I have no experience with these, but am interested). Metal-free costs about $150.00... a lot!!! It does last a long time. I've been using it cautiously with my 2 1/2 year old. I am concerned about the ALA because of redistribution possibilities. I do think it is a much different product than straight ALA; and it probably isn't as strong. My son is high functioning. His stims seemed to immediately slow down when we started this product...but we were also increasing his magnesium and zinc. His language and eye contact have also improved, but again, I'm not sure what to attribute it to. Good luck, Jill -- In , " jarvimom " <jarvimom@y...> wrote: > > > > Do you know the cost of Metal Free? I couldn't find it anywhere on > the website. Unfortunately I don't have much information on this > either and I've been looking too. It was recommended for my son by > his doctor. > > Marissa > > > > > Thank you Dana. What kind of positive/negative stories have you > heard? I just can't seem to find much information on it at all. We > were advised to try this by Dorfman, a nutritionist. She > seems to have a lot of confidence in it, but yes, it is very > expensive. I will ask about PCA-RX at our next visit. > > > > > > > > I have read both positive and negative stories about Metal-Free. > > > > It is ALA-based, so you can just purchase ALA from a local > health food > > store, if you want. It is also much less expensive that way. I > > chelated my kids with ALA. > > > > If you want to use one of this type of commercial products, I > have > > read more positive stories, and fewer negative stories, with use > of > > PCA-RX. > > > > Dana > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 > Thank you Dana. What kind of positive/negative stories have you heard? Positive: child improves overall, increased language, more related to others, fewer stims, that sort of thing. Negative: major regression, loss of any skills previously acquired, parent can't seem to figure out how to reverse the regression. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Boy, wholesale must be nice!! How is she dosing it? Jr. is 50 lbs and he gets three sprays in his mouth a night before bed, every night. Marla > Wow, that's a lot! let us buy it wholesale and it was " only " $100 with shipping. We have been on it a week now. My son used to do a TON of verbal stimming which seems to have gone away. He has started squeaking a bit when he throws things, or as a sound effect, but it's not nearly as bad as the other, or as frequent. So, tonight we go from 4 to 8 drops and see what happens. We won't have any numbers for a few months yet. > > > Re: OT: Has anyone used Metal Free? > > > > > We have been using this woth Dr. Hicks for about 8 months or so and > we are having (to me) ok results (you know everyone wants to see the > numbers off the charts) but Dr. Hicks feels that our sons numbers > are good. We have also had some detox issues as well so he added iv > glut to the mix. The are several other families in my area that are > going very well on it. I have to get it from Hicks and it is $140 a > bottle. It is safe. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 There is a file in the Files section (this one is not at the enzymestuff.com site). When Metal-Free, NDF, and PCA-rx first started to buzz around I called all three companies after hearing conflicting reports. Also, I was at a conference and talked to the PCA-rx owner in detail about his products. But the big impression maker was the dad and few moms that came by the table and these people were RAVING about PCA-rx after doing 2 years on the DMSA+ALA program the dan people were telling parents to do at the time. And the dad had his labs tests with him and showed them to me (they were the same ones other people talk about with all the colored bars showing what is supposedly being excreted). The PCA-rx is 3 times the Metal-free (metal-free was a retail less strong version). NDF is completely different. Of all them, my impression is the PCA gives the most successful improvement and is the best bet due to consistent positive reports. I haven't heard much positive or negative with Metal-free, and NDF gets some positives but also some really notable negative reports. The PCA-rx person was the only one of the three that freely answered my questions and gave reasonable explanation for how it should work. Here is the link to the file which was written a few years ago: http://f5.grp.fs.com/v1/4BniQdB- fmGlF4QBSGKBpSR6oKXZNZM1d281XevWmcRsy29saeYzo3d- SlR3d2du72AiVgeSzlbVzMZPg82D/Related%20Topics%20and%20Supplements/PCA% 20-%20Metal-Free%20-%20NDF%20 If you can't find it or open it, I will send you the text privately. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 is great to work with. I've always felt she has our best interests at heart, and isn't trying to get rich off us. Although with how busy she is, she certainly doesn't need to! We started out with 4 drops and increased to 8 after a week. Next week we'll up to 12 drops (the equivalent of 3 sprays) and stay there. is only 30 pounds, but have great hopes for an increase in appetite! Re: OT: Has anyone used Metal Free? Boy, wholesale must be nice!! How is she dosing it? Jr. is 50 lbs and he gets three sprays in his mouth a night before bed, every night. Marla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 , Thanks for the link! Of course now I'm really confused. We've been seeing pretty good results so far with the metal free after only a week and two days. Would we get even better results from PCA-RX? Like I said, I don't want to take any chances with my little guy, but don't want to give up the positive results either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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