Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Sounds like a sensory issue. MISSY SAHM to some special kids!!! All kid's are gifted; some just open their packages earlier than others. -- Carr upside down? My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will push himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because of something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 My daughter loved to go upside down. It was definately more than a child playing a game with a parent. If a remember right it is a vestibular problem (from The Out Of Sync Child by Carol Kranowitz). We did it a lot with my daughter but only let her go upside down for about 5 seconds at a time then brought her back upright. Of course, she pushed right back to go upside down again. I'm not sure what really brought her away from doing it. She still has vestibular problems that we have begun treating again. Definately start doing sensory work with him if you're not already. Best Wishes! Becky > My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will push > himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because of > something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of > nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 My daughter loves to be upside down or flipped over like an arial sumersault. She also pushes herself backward when your holding her. It scared me the first couple of times she did this as I had no idea she was going to do it, it's like she has no fear. I don't understand what you mean when you say it's a vestibular problem? Can you also elaborate on what sensory work is and what I can do? My daughter is on a 9 month waiting list to be diagnosed for autism so until I get the diagnosis I receive no treatment for her. She's making progress in her speech but only drinks milk and nibbles on potato chips. The medical doctors don't want to address the issue of her nutritional problems. I've ordered the AFP Peptizyde so I can start that and eventually wean her off of the homo milk. She is so sensitive to taste too. Shauna Re: upside down? My daughter loved to go upside down. It was definately more than a child playing a game with a parent. If a remember right it is a vestibular problem (from The Out Of Sync Child by Carol Kranowitz). We did it a lot with my daughter but only let her go upside down for about 5 seconds at a time then brought her back upright. Of course, she pushed right back to go upside down again. I'm not sure what really brought her away from doing it. She still has vestibular problems that we have begun treating again. Definately start doing sensory work with him if you're not already. Best Wishes! Becky > My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will push > himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because of > something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of > nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Shauna, My daughter works with a protege of Dr. Ayres for sensory integration therapy. She worked with me to develop a home program which I implement every day. The vestibular system gives the central nervous system information about balance and movement of the body itself and about the movement of objects in relation to the body. This information is taken in through sensory organs such as the eyes and the receptors for vestibular information are located in the inner ear. Any type of movement, dramatic or subtle, is monitored by the vestibular system, and the most powerful force affecting us is gravity. Gravity helps us monitor where our body is in relation to the earth. When the vestibular system is not functioning properly, there is a domino affect and none of the other sensory systems are receiving the appropriate information. The person experiencing this can be either hypo-sensitive or hyper-sensitive to movement experiences. Hyper-sensitive children have an intolerance to movement and a fear of heights or falling. Hypo-sensitive children crave movement and they need to constantly feel the gravitational pull, especially on their head. My daughter falls into this category. She is dramatically calmed by hanging upside down or standing on her head for several seconds. Her therapist told me the best therapies are ones in which the body feels as though it is falling head first. I decided bungee jumping was out (LOL!) so I built a special platform swing, and my daughter lies on her stomach while I swing her back and forth, and centrifugal force holds her on the swing as she gets nearly vertical and with each swing downward she gets enormous vestibular input to her head from the gravitational pull. Since we have been doing this, she has become calmer, less aggressive, more focused, less clumsy and MUCH happier. Definitely check out Sensory Integration and the Child, by Ayres as well as the Carol Stock Kranowitz book. There are countless ideas in these books of things you can do at home to help with sensory integration. On Sep 20, 2004, at 10:13 PM, White Light wrote: > My daughter loves to be upside down or flipped over like an arial > sumersault. She also pushes herself backward when your holding her. It > scared me the first couple of times she did this as I had no idea she > was going to do it, it's like she has no fear. I don't understand what > you mean when you say it's a vestibular problem? Can you also > elaborate on what sensory work is and what I can do? > > My daughter is on a 9 month waiting list to be diagnosed for autism so > until I get the diagnosis I receive no treatment for her. She's making > progress in her speech but only drinks milk and nibbles on potato > chips. The medical doctors don't want to address the issue of her > nutritional problems. I've ordered the AFP Peptizyde so I can start > that and eventually wean her off of the homo milk. She is so sensitive > to taste too. > > Shauna > > Re: upside down? > > > My daughter loved to go upside down. It was definately more than a > child playing a game with a parent. If a remember right it is a > vestibular problem (from The Out Of Sync Child by Carol Kranowitz). > We did it a lot with my daughter but only let her go upside down for > about 5 seconds at a time then brought her back upright. Of course, > she pushed right back to go upside down again. I'm not sure what > really brought her away from doing it. She still has vestibular > problems that we have begun treating again. Definately start doing > sensory work with him if you're not already. > > Best Wishes! > Becky > > >> My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will push >> himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because > of >> something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of >> nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Thank you so much for your excellent explanation. My daughter is exactly like yours, Hypo-sensitive. I didn't know anything about this until your email but everyday, unknowingly, I have been using this type of therapy on her. Here I was just thinking maybe she was an adrenaline junkie, with no fear. Your email makes me feel so much better. Thanks Shauna Re: upside down? > > > My daughter loved to go upside down. It was definately more than a > child playing a game with a parent. If a remember right it is a > vestibular problem (from The Out Of Sync Child by Carol Kranowitz). > We did it a lot with my daughter but only let her go upside down for > about 5 seconds at a time then brought her back upright. Of course, > she pushed right back to go upside down again. I'm not sure what > really brought her away from doing it. She still has vestibular > problems that we have begun treating again. Definately start doing > sensory work with him if you're not already. > > Best Wishes! > Becky > > >> My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will push >> himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because > of >> something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of >> nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 > I hate making something of > nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! I know what you mean -- I'm always on the lookout, it seems. Take heart, I used to LOVE being upside down as a kid and I turned out OK (some might argue that ;-)) I used to " sit " on the couch with my legs over the back and my head hanging down, etc. ia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 > My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will push > himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because of > something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of > nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! This was yeast in the ears for my son. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 My three son also loves to be upside down. He will do " head stands " off his bed, couch etc. Sometimes he cries for no reason and will then go the bed and hang upside down. I'm afraid that he'll hurt himself. I mentioned it to my Dan doctor and he was confused and told me to monitor it so that maybe an MRI/Catscan could be recommeded. debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 You got a great response below! Also, Carol has a book called " the Out-of-Sync Child Has Fun " which will give you many activities to do at home. Has you daughter never started eating solids or did she start then stop? My daughter started eating solids and was doing great (at 12- 14 months) then started slowly rejecting one food after another (including her favorites). At 2 1/2 we discovered the problem-she couldn't see. Glasses helped a lot of problems but not the food. At 3 1/2 we learned about vision therapy and that is what finally helped her. My daughter couldn't make out the fine details in food, objects, etc because her eyes didn't work together. If she's never eaten much for solids see if your pediatrician can refer her to a reputable feeding clinic (not one that believes in forcing a child to eat!) for possible sensory issues or problems with the mouth not being able to move the food around (which would discourage her from eating). If she used to eat then stopped get her eyes checked. My daughters vision went downhill after her MMR which showed up in lots of ways except vision so it took 1 1/2 years before we had her eyes tested-a big loss of time. Before we have diagnosis here we can get OT, SLP, etc with a developmental delay diagnosis from the ped. There's got to be some kind of diagnosis the ped can give to get those services? Have you been able to get in touch with other parents to see if this is indeed the case? I don't know if you're in the states. Can you contact your school district to get services from them? Keep posting questions! Best Wishes Becky > >> My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will push > >> himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because > > of > >> something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of > >> nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Hi Becky, My daughter actually sounds alot like yours. She was on formula (Good Start) from about 2 months old, because my milk dried up, then she made the transition to baby food. She would gag occaisionally and if her cereal was too thick she would throw it up or really gag. She was big on texture but she did eat it. Then I started pureeing chicken into her veggies and this went on for quite a while. It was about 2 months after her MMR shot that she stopped eating solids. After 2 weeks of not eating solids, I managed to slowly get her back on the puree'd solids by starting with baby food fruit, then after a couple weeks she stopped again and I have yet to get her back on solids. Now it's just homo milk and this has been going on for about 6 months now. The only thing that I have been doing is putting a 1/4 tsp of Prime One in each of her bottles. Prime One is made up of Adaptogens, which are biologically active substances found in certain herbs and plants which help the body and mind adapt to the changes and stress of life. You can check out the website at www.adaptogensforlife.com . Amazingly enough, Jesi has not lost any weight and is otherwise really healthy. I've heard amazing miracle testimonies on this product and saw myself how it cured a little girl of severe eczema! My kids, and myself will never be without Prime One. I truly believe it's what has been keeping my daughter healthy up to this point. My next step is getting her on the enzymes and off of cow's milk. I just had a complete blood chemistry done on Jesi and all test came back normal. Tomorrow I'm going to have her tested for metals and toxins. I was amazed to hear that this can be done by a hair strand. This group is such an awesome wealth of information and it's such a comfort to know that others are going through the same struggles that we are. I'm so glad I found you guys! Till next time .... Shauna Re: upside down? > > You got a great response below! Also, Carol has a book called " the > Out-of-Sync Child Has Fun " which will give you many activities to do > at home. > > Has you daughter never started eating solids or did she start then > stop? My daughter started eating solids and was doing great (at 12- > 14 months) then started slowly rejecting one food after another > (including her favorites). At 2 1/2 we discovered the problem-she > couldn't see. Glasses helped a lot of problems but not the food. At > 3 1/2 we learned about vision therapy and that is what finally helped > her. My daughter couldn't make out the fine details in food, > objects, etc because her eyes didn't work together. If she's never > eaten much for solids see if your pediatrician can refer her to a > reputable feeding clinic (not one that believes in forcing a child to > eat!) for possible sensory issues or problems with the mouth not > being able to move the food around (which would discourage her from > eating). If she used to eat then stopped get her eyes checked. My > daughters vision went downhill after her MMR which showed up in lots > of ways except vision so it took 1 1/2 years before we had her eyes > tested-a big loss of time. > > Before we have diagnosis here we can get OT, SLP, etc with a > developmental delay diagnosis from the ped. There's got to be some > kind of diagnosis the ped can give to get those services? Have you > been able to get in touch with other parents to see if this is indeed > the case? I don't know if you're in the states. Can you contact > your school district to get services from them? > > Keep posting questions! > Best Wishes > Becky > > > > >> My son loves to be upside down. When ever I hold him, he will > push > > >> himself over. On the couch he does head stands. Is this because > > > of > > >> something, or just a child behavior? I hate making something of > > >> nothing, but don't want to miss anything either! > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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