Re: Fw: Selenium (necessary) vs Selenomethionine (toxic)

[Guest guest]

the selenomethionine made by albion labs is like this, not a true

selenomenthionine

this is why i am picky about brands with selenomethionine

the source naturals selenomethionine apears to be a true chelate

south dekota beef is also very high in selenium

sodium selenite or any inorganic selenium is no good

i have a dual selenium protocol which in my web page 'minerals i

take' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3

once on the 'minerals i take' page, just scroll down to SELENIUM

PROTOCOL

>

>

>

> This is from another list I follow. Selenium is very important for

immunity but the source matters.

> BTW, Brazil nuts are the highest source of Se.

>

> ...

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

>

> Selenomethionine is a wrong term, you might also call it fraud.

What one

> does is make a slurry of a selenium salt and the amino acid

methionine.

> This slurry is then spray-dried and pressed into tablet form and

sold

> under the name of " selenomethionine " , but it is just the same

selenium

> salt as before, either sodium selenite or sodium selenate, to which

some

> methionine has been added (which is a cheap filler and has no

effect in

> the slurry). It is as if you added sodium chloride to your veal and

> would call this vealo-sodio-chloridio. Your family would call this

veal

> to which table salt has been added.

>

> The inorganic salts of selenium are OK as fertilizers and are used

as

> such in China and Finland, but they are unfit for human consumption

> since you will get a fever if you take 1,000 micrograms of Se in

that

> form, whereas if you eat bread made from high selenium wheat as

occurs

> in S. Dakota, you may eat 1,000 mcg of Se in bread form with great

> success. (Some wheat from S. Dakota will contain about 5,000

micrograms

> per pound and is a perfect source of Se since this is organic Se.)

> Compare this to Finnish winter wheat which contains about 25

micrograms

> per pound. Yes: Twenty-five versus five thousand.

>

> I mentioned before how wheat from S. Dakota put an end to an

epidemic of

> Keshan disease in Bavaria, and I think the US wheat had a great

deal to

> do with the enormous economic upswing of Bavaria after WWII since

Se

> increases cognitive performance. The same is true for China these

days

> since the Chinese very actively add selenium to their soils now.

>

> Today, Norway is the only European country left that buys wheat

from the

> US, and they have the highest serum selenium levels at 119 ng/ml.

For

> comparison: Austria, on European wheat, has average levels of 67

ng/ml.

> Of course, you get much higher values in Se territory such as 257

in

> Rapid City, S.D. That is why they have the low incidence of autism.

>

> The elementary rule is that Se first has to go through a plant, and

not

> through a spray drier.

>

> Happy New Year, and I hope for some success in 2005. This cannot go

on

> forever.

>

> Hans [Raible]

>

>

>

> >I've been reading the posts on selenium. In the forward from

> >Eurolyme, this caught my eye:

> >

> > " The most important mineral is selenium and plant-based selenium

at

> >that (do not use a man-made chelated selenium called L seleno-

> >methionine as it is defective and toxic to the body).

> >

> >I've never heard that selenomethionine is toxic. I'm very curious

as

> >I suspect this is the form most parents are using as a

supplement. I

> >went to the website and couldn't find any reference to back this

up.

> >Do you know anything about this?

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Guess I'll keep requesting beef from my families' farms (all in South

Dakota) instead of buying off the Minnesota store shelfs! Of course,

that means I actually have to cook and get my daughter to eat the

food.

Becky

> >

> >

> >

> > This is from another list I follow. Selenium is very important

for

> immunity but the source matters.

> > BTW, Brazil nuts are the highest source of Se.

> >

> > ...

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Selenomethionine is a wrong term, you might also call it fraud.

> What one

> > does is make a slurry of a selenium salt and the amino acid

> methionine.

> > This slurry is then spray-dried and pressed into tablet form and

> sold

> > under the name of " selenomethionine " , but it is just the same

> selenium

> > salt as before, either sodium selenite or sodium selenate, to

which

> some

> > methionine has been added (which is a cheap filler and has no

> effect in

> > the slurry). It is as if you added sodium chloride to your veal

and

> > would call this vealo-sodio-chloridio. Your family would call

this

> veal

> > to which table salt has been added.

> >

> > The inorganic salts of selenium are OK as fertilizers and are

used

> as

> > such in China and Finland, but they are unfit for human

consumption

> > since you will get a fever if you take 1,000 micrograms of Se in

> that

> > form, whereas if you eat bread made from high selenium wheat as

> occurs

> > in S. Dakota, you may eat 1,000 mcg of Se in bread form with

great

> > success. (Some wheat from S. Dakota will contain about 5,000

> micrograms

> > per pound and is a perfect source of Se since this is organic

Se.)

> > Compare this to Finnish winter wheat which contains about 25

> micrograms

> > per pound. Yes: Twenty-five versus five thousand.

> >

> > I mentioned before how wheat from S. Dakota put an end to an

> epidemic of

> > Keshan disease in Bavaria, and I think the US wheat had a great

> deal to

> > do with the enormous economic upswing of Bavaria after WWII since

> Se

> > increases cognitive performance. The same is true for China these

> days

> > since the Chinese very actively add selenium to their soils now.

> >

> > Today, Norway is the only European country left that buys wheat

> from the

> > US, and they have the highest serum selenium levels at 119 ng/ml.

> For

> > comparison: Austria, on European wheat, has average levels of 67

> ng/ml.

> > Of course, you get much higher values in Se territory such as 257

> in

> > Rapid City, S.D. That is why they have the low incidence of

autism.

> >

> > The elementary rule is that Se first has to go through a plant,

and

> not

> > through a spray drier.

> >

> > Happy New Year, and I hope for some success in 2005. This cannot

go

> on

> > forever.

> >

> > Hans [Raible]

> >

> >

> >

> > >I've been reading the posts on selenium. In the forward from

> > >Eurolyme, this caught my eye:

> > >

> > > " The most important mineral is selenium and plant-based selenium

> at

> > >that (do not use a man-made chelated selenium called L seleno-

> > >methionine as it is defective and toxic to the body).

> > >

> > >I've never heard that selenomethionine is toxic. I'm very

curious

> as

> > >I suspect this is the form most parents are using as a

> supplement. I

> > >went to the website and couldn't find any reference to back this

> up.

> > >Do you know anything about this?

> > >

> >

> >

> >