Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 kids who have trouble with the scd version of houstonni have a bad fermenting type biofilm in the gut i would use the rice bran ones if i was you. what veges is he eating? things like potato can be a problem, you need to understand scd http://www.pecanbread.com/scdscience.html but you want to get to the point of tolerating dairy really its hard to say what is what until you are using rice bran housonni and sprinkling on food............. its like there 100 things to do and where do you start? optizinc as per my web page but then you get into needing copper and other minerals............. 'minerals i take' in the index of http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/compendium.html his gut is very leaky and undigested food particles are getting across hence the food allergies and likely a chronic yeast problem get the summer sun whie it is here, check out skin vitamin d in the compnedium index, the sun you need is not what public health advice is i woulg go for the optizinc and maybe copper as per the web page, copepr might need testing cautiously........ > Sorry if this is a repost. I posted this an hour ago and I still > don't see it on the board. I want to cry, it is that long... > > I am at a loss with waht is going on with my son. I posted tha other > day about this, but things change... > > Started HNI(all 3 scd, n-f, most recently) feb, march. Has had loose > stools and thought that would change. It hasn't. also > complains of a pain in the stomach that kinda waxes and wains. It's > back and out of the last 10 days, about 5 of the times he complained, > he's crouched down, kinda doubled over for a few minutes. > > Since starting I have been able to reduce his prevacid by 2/3. This > is a huge thing for us. All previous trials failed. His diet is > pretty basic. Chicken, lamb, vegs, occassional raisin or tangerine. > Just recently removed eggs. Not sure about chicken-he's refusing it > and he always knows more than I do. And carrots-undigested. > > So, in trying to figure out this loose stool. 5 days ago, I started > treating yeast/bacteria. Both because when I treat one, the other > gets worse. It is bacteria now. VILE, VILE stools. Using Kirkmans > yeastaid-1/2 dose and OoO-1-2 drops ea once a day, one in morn and > one in eve, keeping up probiotics. What a change in behavior!! This > is the child I dreamed of! That lasted for 3 days. > > The other day that changed. He woke up with a temp, pasty, white > lips and his stools went to liquid and the color of butter. Die- off, > right???? They are still liquid and yellow. The VILEness is gone, > they are actually sweet smelling now. He's gone more than a dozen > times. > > Has anyone had loose stools as a reaction to HNI and had to change? > Do they all cause this?? Has anyone had to remove foods like eggs, > chicken and carrots on enzymes? > > What is the pain in his stomach? Someone suggested ulcer. I doubt > it, but I have no idea. He had tests ayear ago, found nothing. I > have a call into his dr and Devin. > > Will the yellow diarrhea? (does anyone know how to spell that word?) > stop? ...keeping the loose stools seperate from the yellow liquid. > > Do I keep treating the yeast/bacteria? Is the yellow diarreah from > die-off? > > The yellow dairreah has me concerened. Is there a liver problem?? > > I lowered use of enzymes yesterday and today. Stopped all other > supps today, except probiotics(acidophilus). > > HELP? I greatly appreciate any time, effort and input you all have > to give. I am sure I have skipped something. I wonder where things > like that post go ..... > > Regards, > > a > mom to joel > not dx'd. dr doesn't think asd, but no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 >>Chicken, lamb, vegs, occassional raisin or tangerine. > Just recently removed eggs. Not sure about chicken-he's refusing it > and he always knows more than I do. And carrots-undigested. My son tolerated nothing orange or green, even with enzymes. Try removing the tangerine and carrots and any of the vegs that are orange or green. > What is the pain in his stomach? For me personally, it is eating a food that the enzymes still don't address. > Will the yellow diarrhea? (does anyone know how to spell that word?) You spelled it right. > Do I keep treating the yeast/bacteria? Is the yellow diarreah from > die-off? You might go to a maintenance probiotic, which it appears you have done. Try removing orange and green foods, see if that helps. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 If nothing else works, sometimes stopping all supplements, waiting a week to see all his reactions, then slowly reintroducing each supplement and noting the reactions may have to be done. I've done this with my daughter when things get frustrating. Best Wishes Becky > Sorry if this is a repost. I posted this an hour ago and I still > don't see it on the board. I want to cry, it is that long... > > I am at a loss with waht is going on with my son. I posted tha other > day about this, but things change... > > Started HNI(all 3 scd, n-f, most recently) feb, march. Has had loose > stools and thought that would change. It hasn't. also > complains of a pain in the stomach that kinda waxes and wains. It's > back and out of the last 10 days, about 5 of the times he complained, > he's crouched down, kinda doubled over for a few minutes. > > Since starting I have been able to reduce his prevacid by 2/3. This > is a huge thing for us. All previous trials failed. His diet is > pretty basic. Chicken, lamb, vegs, occassional raisin or tangerine. > Just recently removed eggs. Not sure about chicken-he's refusing it > and he always knows more than I do. And carrots-undigested. > > So, in trying to figure out this loose stool. 5 days ago, I started > treating yeast/bacteria. Both because when I treat one, the other > gets worse. It is bacteria now. VILE, VILE stools. Using Kirkmans > yeastaid-1/2 dose and OoO-1-2 drops ea once a day, one in morn and > one in eve, keeping up probiotics. What a change in behavior!! This > is the child I dreamed of! That lasted for 3 days. > > The other day that changed. He woke up with a temp, pasty, white > lips and his stools went to liquid and the color of butter. Die- off, > right???? They are still liquid and yellow. The VILEness is gone, > they are actually sweet smelling now. He's gone more than a dozen > times. > > Has anyone had loose stools as a reaction to HNI and had to change? > Do they all cause this?? Has anyone had to remove foods like eggs, > chicken and carrots on enzymes? > > What is the pain in his stomach? Someone suggested ulcer. I doubt > it, but I have no idea. He had tests ayear ago, found nothing. I > have a call into his dr and Devin. > > Will the yellow diarrhea? (does anyone know how to spell that word?) > stop? ...keeping the loose stools seperate from the yellow liquid. > > Do I keep treating the yeast/bacteria? Is the yellow diarreah from > die-off? > > The yellow dairreah has me concerened. Is there a liver problem?? > > I lowered use of enzymes yesterday and today. Stopped all other > supps today, except probiotics(acidophilus). > > HELP? I greatly appreciate any time, effort and input you all have > to give. I am sure I have skipped something. I wonder where things > like that post go ..... > > Regards, > > a > mom to joel > not dx'd. dr doesn't think asd, but no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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