Re: Re: theres no such thing as chelation really, its a confusing

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In a message dated 2/22/2004 4:47:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

alevin@... writes:

> one of the most unfortunate aspects of all this is the mothers are

> usually also poisoned to the extent that judgement and vigour is

> affected so my quantum program is really beyond thier abilty to

> follow through

Speaking only for myself, you are right on target here. My ability to focus

is shot, same with memory, both short and long-term -- I started losing it in

my mid-30s when I got a lot of amalgams, and the shots of RhoGam put me over

the edge.

I decided to use Andy's protocol because really I had so little to lose in

the brain department, lol. So far it is helping 5 yo n tremendously,

although as you say who knows exactly how it's working, perhaps the supps and

ala/dmsa are working differently than explained. But it is making a huge

difference

for him, his brain fog has cleared and he's making giant cognitive leaps.

As for me, I feel better. But I wouldn't say so far (7 rounds) my brain fog

has cleared...

Nell

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It interests me on what you said in your post on mineral transport.

Are there any books that discusses this topic? I have a mercury issue

and I found ALA to be helpful. The first 6 months I felt it did chelate this

metal out of my body. After this when I continued to take it I feel it just

supports my body to function better. So for me, if ALA did have some

role in chelating but it is limited. Sometimes I can take if for 1 week and

other

times only 3 days before feeling not right. Sorry can't explain.

I still continue to rely on it because I did read about how helpful it is to

the livers function and reducing inflammation. I feel I need support in this

area. When I get a metal taste in my mouth and begin the ALA the taste goes

away. I am wondering now if the metal taste might have something to do

with my minerals not moving where they should and therefore I taste a back

up of minerals some how in my mouth. This might not be a mercury symptom

for me. It must have something to do with liver processing though.

I don't think my response to taking ALA is a viral response because I

would think I would feel some kind of die-off. I do not. One other thing ALA

helps me with is my gums. I began to feel like I am developing gum disease.

A very irritating feeling in my gums, like I haven't brushed my teeth for a

year.

ALA get rid of that too.

I am interested in Immunocal being helpful too because I tried many

kinds of whey and i can't use the soy and others are made from dairy.

I am glad what I tried helped me so far because I couldn't tolerate to be in

the same room with myself. But now judging where I am right now I do think

there is more applied here that religiously using ALA as a chelator.

Any information will be helpful. Is there a name to the protocol you follow?

Liz D.

Re: theres no such thing as chelation really, its a confusing

if you look at heavy metals in terms of reordering minerals transport

it starts to make sense. this does not invalidate using ala or dmsa

which may have some limited efect in reordering the minerals

transport but you see the limitation which is thier inability to be

that selective for target metals, undue mobilsation of the heavy

metals without passivation during transport, pulling wanted minerals

and not adressing the overall mineral picture. ala may have an anti

viral effect and promote liver function...........the racemic form

(r+) may be better for this.

since reordering the mineral transport flow is what is required then

you have to look at the overall suplementation picture which is

adeqaute mineralisaton esp zinc, mag, iodine, seleniums, managnese,

molybdenum, vit d, methylselenocysteine, gtf chromium,

lithium......................

that will flush heavy metals while also providing the raw materials

for the synergy of body quantum mineral flow.

i am now wondering a bit if melatonin and tryptophan supplementaion

need relates a bit to this mechanism of 50/60hz magnetic fields

creating free radicals in cells which melatonin is exremely potent

for detoxifying.

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In a message dated 2/23/2004 12:54:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mncounts89@... writes:

> Im very new here, and not

> familiar with " Andy's protocal " at all. My dr. did give me oral

> chelation for my son, but I dont intend to use it for a long time(if

> ever) until his gut is healed and more learning is done on my part.

> Could you fill me in on this protocol?

Check the files at : for a complete

description. Basically the protocol calls for using ALA, DMSA, or both in low

frequent

doses for a number of days (and nights), and then taking time off to rest. My

son is doing phenomenally well on it -- he's learned to read, his mood has

improved dramatically, he's cooperative and happy. One thing that I really like

is

that I see improvements with every round, so it's not something that you have

to do for months, wondering if there'll be an effect someday. In my son's

case, anyway, the positive effect was immediate.

Nell

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Thank you I will look into this.

And I am realizing this too.

>following a protocol imo is somewhat doomed to failure before you <

>start because you are following rules rather than results. <

Liz D.