Bentonite Clay

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In a message dated 11/8/99 6:22:45 PM Central Standard Time,

chandleb@... writes:

<< Excuse my ignorance, but what is bentonite clay? And psyllium? What do

you do with it?Bonnie >>

Bentonite absorbs poisons and toxins in the digestive tract and the psyllium

helps scrub out the colon. All of this is to help rid the body of die off

from candida

or Lyme disease or flu or what ever.

Many people use these for periodic bowel cleansing. Check out......

http://geopages.com/HotSprings/Villa/3934/bowel cleanse.html

Edith

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The definative guide to using clay in natural healing is a wonderful

handbook by Dextreit, currently called Earth Cures, and available

through online purchase from bookstores such as Amazon.com.

Now, Bentonite, on an average, will swell to four times it's size when

hydrated. One part bentonite, and three to four parts water, would make a

magma suitable to use for external applications. Keep in mind that

" bentonite " comes in various grades. I've tested dozens of bentonites from

different quarries ( and different grades ), from various parts of the

world, and none of them are identical. One teaspoon of bentonite in, say,

an eight ounce glass of water should easily dissolve, although you might

find it can take several hours for this to occur. Remember, we're talking

about a a very dense substance, where one gram of bentonite can have up to a

surface area of well over 300 square meters.

Depending on the purity of the source, you may find that some settling

occurs. Check the grade of your bentonite. An industrial grade may not be

suitable for internal use due to high amounts of iron ( in the opinion of

some ). You'll want to be sure that there are no binders or additives in

such a standard clay.

A non-processed bentonite works best, but one must be very careful of the

source. For those who appreciate assurances, my highest recommendation

would be a USP grade bentonite ( as apposed to an FDA or Phx grade

bentonite ) which adheres to a high standard of purity and safety without

the overprocessing requirements required by the FDA.

Some bentonites are sold with no manufacturing standards, and can be sandy,

or even have a tendency to reject water. These clays may not be suitable

for internal use due to contamination by unspecified substances.

Bentonite Clay

> Hi all!

>

> I'm new to this list, but am very interested. I have been reading

> about bentonite clay and its healing properties. I purchased a

> little bit in bulk tonight, with the thought that I'd check it out.

> The little bit I read said to start with a tablespoon in water for a

> week, then increase.

>

> I added cold water to this, and was unable to get it dissolved.

> Before I try round 2, is there a different procedure I should use?

> This made the mixture more like shortening!

>

> Also, what seems to be the best book which includes information about

> the clay?

>

> Thanks for your help -

>

> Traci

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Hi...

What about hydrated bentonite? is it the same??

Thanks

Amal

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>Subject: Re: Bentonite Clay

>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:32:36 -0000

>

>The definative guide to using clay in natural healing is a wonderful

>handbook by Dextreit, currently called Earth Cures, and available

>through online purchase from bookstores such as Amazon.com.

>

>Now, Bentonite, on an average, will swell to four times it's size when

>hydrated. One part bentonite, and three to four parts water, would make a

>magma suitable to use for external applications. Keep in mind that

> " bentonite " comes in various grades. I've tested dozens of bentonites from

>different quarries ( and different grades ), from various parts of the

>world, and none of them are identical. One teaspoon of bentonite in, say,

>an eight ounce glass of water should easily dissolve, although you might

>find it can take several hours for this to occur. Remember, we're talking

>about a a very dense substance, where one gram of bentonite can have up to

>a

>surface area of well over 300 square meters.

>

>Depending on the purity of the source, you may find that some settling

>occurs. Check the grade of your bentonite. An industrial grade may not be

>suitable for internal use due to high amounts of iron ( in the opinion of

>some ). You'll want to be sure that there are no binders or additives in

>such a standard clay.

>

>A non-processed bentonite works best, but one must be very careful of the

>source. For those who appreciate assurances, my highest recommendation

>would be a USP grade bentonite ( as apposed to an FDA or Phx grade

>bentonite ) which adheres to a high standard of purity and safety without

>the overprocessing requirements required by the FDA.

>

>

>Some bentonites are sold with no manufacturing standards, and can be sandy,

>or even have a tendency to reject water. These clays may not be suitable

>for internal use due to contamination by unspecified substances.

>

> Bentonite Clay

>

>

> > Hi all!

> >

> > I'm new to this list, but am very interested. I have been reading

> > about bentonite clay and its healing properties. I purchased a

> > little bit in bulk tonight, with the thought that I'd check it out.

> > The little bit I read said to start with a tablespoon in water for a

> > week, then increase.

> >

> > I added cold water to this, and was unable to get it dissolved.

> > Before I try round 2, is there a different procedure I should use?

> > This made the mixture more like shortening!

> >

> > Also, what seems to be the best book which includes information about

> > the clay?

> >

> > Thanks for your help -

> >

> > Traci

>

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Bentonite Clay also comes in liquid the one I use is

Sonne's no.7 --32oz. for about $15.00. most health food

stores have it or cat. companies.

Patty

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You can also get liquid Bentonite Clay from Nature's Sunshine. Marcie

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yes natures sunshine also has Liquid or Benonite Clay

Patty

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m</A>

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Excuse my ignorance , but what is Bentonite Clay?

Kate

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Why?

Kate

At 06:39 PM 7/18/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Is the whole board moaning right now? I am.

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Liz,

No I didnt just join, I joined about 4 weeks ago, Im on about 30 lists for

various different things, and need to be for my job. So, I dont always

catch everything. And going through the archives is a pain.

Kate

At 07:19 PM 7/18/01 -0700, you wrote:

>We just talked about this Kate, did you just join?

>See what information you can pull up on the members

>page archive search.

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Bentonite Clay absorbs the dying Candida and the waste products of

candida and other organisms' waste products in the intestines.

Without the Bentonite, the die-off can be terrible.

I get low grade fever, chills, and body aches from my die-off if I

don't take the Bentonite.

I get mine from WHOLEapproach.com

-adele

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We just talked about this Kate, did you just join?

See what information you can pull up on the members

page archive search.

LIZ D

Re: Bentonite Clay

Why?

Kate

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In a message dated 9/4/01 7:09:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, undem3396@...

writes:

> I know clay absorbs toxins but does in inhibit the

> working of the good things if you take it to close together?

>

Yes, you should take the bentonite away from your other supplements. You can

try the bentonite say at night and the supplements in the morning. If not

possible, then still try to separate them. Bentonite will absorb anything,

hence will inhibit the working of the " good things " to greater or lesser

degree if taken at the same time.

Robin G.

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, I use Sonne's bentonite clay water to mix with the apple juice and

psyllium in my pre-colema cleanses. What the clay does is adhere to and draw. It

draws the impacted material away from the colon wall and the psyllium bulks

with it and the apple juice softens it...so that during the colema it can just

very easily flush right out. Let me know if you are interested and I'll send you

the recipe. It would work without the colema the next day, but not nearly as

quickly and effortlessly. Might just break up in smaller bits a little at a

time. And as far as the bacteria. If you are doing intensive bowel cleansing

you have a problem anyway, like do most of us, and you can add a good probiotic

when you are done with the cleanse. of Dewberry Hill

I've been taking Dr Schulze's IC#2 formula which contains Bentonite Clay. I

think the idea is that this clay vacuums up everything in site thus clearing

the intestines. Does this also mean it removes good / bad bacteria ?

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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In a message dated 08/03/2002 7:17:04 PM Central Daylight Time,

Rabbitbrain@... writes:

> Do another search using Diatomaceous Earth. It is called

> different names.

>

> Liz D.

>

>

Hi Liz, having searched under Diatomaceous Earth, I discovered that it's

not the clay I would use internally. I'm looking for calcium bentonite

(clay) as opposed to sodium bentonite clay. Doesn't look like it is

available in Australia.

In interesting website was found which dealt with Pascalite (calcium

bentonite) which is from Wyoming USA. Have to contact customs here if it is

allowed for me to import it into Australia.

Regards

Hanneke

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> has anyone ever heard of this. I'm doing research on it b/c my

friend

> recommended a natural talc free baby powder recipe with this in it

and I'm

> finding interesting things regarding general health about this

stuff.

>

> http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/clay.htm

>

> Here's one paragraph though that caught my eye:

> In 'Our Earth Our Cure', Dextreit writes that that clay stimulates

the

> deficient organ and help the restoration of the failing function.

Clay is a

> powerful agent of stimulation, transformation and transmission.

Clay

> contains highly active ingredients, able to induce cellular

rebuilding and

> to hasten all organic processes. He also says that clay acts with

wisdom -

> it goes to the unhealthy spot. Used internally, whether absorbed

orally,

> anally or vaginally, clay goes to the place where harm is, there it

lodges,

> perhaps for several days, until finally it draws out the pus, black

blood,

> etc. with its evacuation.

>

> Sounds interesting.... like I said I just learned about this, so

I'm not

> promoting it.

>

>

>

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I used this w/ all of my children and it is extreemly healing ,on

little bottoms as well as rashes of any kind.You can even make a

paste and put it on bites .

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do you have any recipes still?

I used this w/ all of my children and it is extreemly healing ,on

little bottoms as well as rashes of any kind.You can even make a

paste and put it on bites .

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Hi Bee. I was just sharing what I had read. I didn't

know the liver would pass stones. I just heard that it

could become toxic by poor diet, stress etc. My own

doctor had me on milk thistle for a while with no

adverse reactions. I know I don't have parasites as I

had a comprehensive stool analysis and while it showed

dysfunction of my intestines there were NO parasites.

Thanks, Carol B

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Carol wrote:

> Hi Bee. I was just sharing what I had read. I didn't

> know the liver would pass stones. I just heard that it

> could become toxic by poor diet, stress etc. My own

> doctor had me on milk thistle for a while with no

> adverse reactions. I know I don't have parasites as I

> had a comprehensive stool analysis and while it showed

> dysfunction of my intestines there were NO parasites.

Oh? In that case I went overboard replying to your message.

Soooorrrreee. Too much information, eh?

Hugs,

Bee

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....to take all of the herbs recommended

by Dr. " just in case " you have parasites is not a wise idea.

Hi Bee

Glad you mentioned her. I've just finished reading her book and I am

seriously confused by some of her claims.

The first one is that you have to sterilise all milk products. This one

has me worried, as we now know pasteurised milk has no enzymes, so

humans can't digest it properly. This also means, according to her, that

any fermented milk is out as it will very likely contain a mould of some

kind. Her claim is that all illness is caused by moulds and parasites.

So that makes anything fermented not acceptable??? She doesn't specify

which moulds are a problem, so the reader has to assume all moulds???

Secondly this whole issue of having a sterile house is just ridiculous!

I was always taught that we need to come in contact with the germs to

build immunity to them. So her theory is totally the opposite. Also I

don't believe that having pets makes you sicker. In any case I am not

going to sterilise my dog

Thirdly her knowledge of the digestive process seems a little sketchy.

Comments like " the body converts fat to sugar " had me scratching my

head.

Then there's the liver cleanse (which I mentioned to you before). A

friend of mum's turned up recently with a mason jar full of stones,

which he says came out of his body after a cleanse. Now these were rock

hard (definitely not soap stones). Whether they came from bile ducts or

liver (or his back yard) is impossible to tell. So I now don't know what

to believe.

Then there's the Zapper, claimed to destroy all parasites, viruses and

bugs (including Candida). Her testing methods are a bit sketchy here

too. I cant see her following a clear scientific method, so its unclear

to me how she came to her conclusions. In any case my husband built the

Zapper for me. I find that after using it I have a tremendous increase

in energy to the point that I am having trouble getting to sleep. One

other positive was the complete absence of PMS (it wasn't that bad to

start with but I still knew it was coming). The negative is that it

hasn't cured my cold (probably because the virus hides in those pesky

liver stones she mentioned ?). Also this process contradicts the old

Traditional Chinese Medicine theory about electrical current

introducing " wind " into the body, which is detrimental to health. So

here is another contradiction. Have you had any experience with a

Zapper?

So, I don't really know what to believe here!

Does anyone else have any experience with Dr 's protocols?

kind regards

Irene

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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, Irena Sprey wrote:

>

> ...to take all of the herbs recommended

> by Dr. " just in case " you have parasites is not a wise idea.

>

>

>

> Hi Bee

>

> Glad you mentioned her. I've just finished reading her book and I am

> seriously confused by some of her claims.

I haven't studied her book(s) thoroughly, but I did build a Zapper for a

friend of mine who didn't really notice any effects from it at all, good

or bad. That's my only experience with it. I haven't used it myself.

> Then there's the Zapper, claimed to destroy all parasites, viruses and

> bugs (including Candida). Her testing methods are a bit sketchy here

> too. I cant see her following a clear scientific method, so its unclear

> to me how she came to her conclusions. In any case my husband built the

> Zapper for me. I find that after using it I have a tremendous increase

> in energy to the point that I am having trouble getting to sleep. One

> other positive was the complete absence of PMS (it wasn't that bad to

> start with but I still knew it was coming). The negative is that it

> hasn't cured my cold (probably because the virus hides in those pesky

> liver stones she mentioned ?). Also this process contradicts the old

> Traditional Chinese Medicine theory about electrical current

> introducing " wind " into the body, which is detrimental to health. So

> here is another contradiction. Have you had any experience with a

> Zapper?

> So, I don't really know what to believe here!

> Does anyone else have any experience with Dr 's protocols?

> kind regards

> Irene

>

I don't know if I mentioned it here or not before, but I've investigated

the works of two scientists who developed electronic means of curing

various ills in the body. One was Dr. Royal Rife. His device could

supposedly cure just about anything, from the common cold to cancer. The

machine required different settings for each particular disease or

affliction. Each setting would sort of " explode " the virus, parasite or

bacteria causing a particular illness.

The notes he left behind are sketchy, and I think most of the machines

sold these days as " Rife machines " don't use the full design he actually

used. I think he may have deliberately left out some critical info on his

machine.

The other was a French scientist named Antoine Priore. He built a machine

that worked on a different principle than Rife's machine. His basic idea

was that a healthy body had certain electromagnetic patterns, and these

became altered when the body became ill. By determining what the healthy

body patterns were and then filling the body with those same

electromagnetic patterns, the body would start to become healthy again. It

was a very complex device that used very particular microwave frequencies,

according to people who actually saw it. The equipment filled a whole

room. There are records of many cures as a result of being treated with it.

Both Rife and Priore were heavily attacked by medical associations for

using their inventions. Priore became very bitter about the whole thing

and probably left behind fewer notes on his machine than Rife did. So no

one has been able to reconstruct it.

Maybe some day someone will figure it all out again.

Zack

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What I use Bentonite clay For:

Topically mixed with apple cider vineger makes a great facial mask to draw out

impuities in the skin.

Limited internal usage if I know I will be taking a larger dose of anti fungals

, I will take a swig of a liquid Bentonite by Nature's Sunshine to absorb the

die off .

I was told by someone who had adult chicken pox, that they took it during their

sick period and it helped emensely in shortening the lenght of their illness .

Another thing to use topically is COCONUT oil. For vaginal itching, it will

reduce that sensation and heal the membranes quickly.

Happy New Year

CIndy

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Irene wrote:

> Glad you mentioned her (Hulda ). I've just finished reading

>her book and I am seriously confused by some of her claims.

> The first one is that you have to sterilise all milk products. This

<one has me worried, as we now know pasteurised milk has no enzymes,

>so humans can't digest it properly. This also means, according to

>her, that any fermented milk is out as it will very likely contain a

>mould of some kind. Her claim is that all illness is caused by

>moulds and parasites. So that makes anything fermented not

acceptable??? She doesn't specify which moulds are a problem, so the

reader has to assume all moulds???

Irene, there is a big difference between " yeasts, molds & fungi " and

lacto-fermented foods and drinks, which do not contain yeast, molds &

fungi.

> Secondly this whole issue of having a sterile house is just

>ridiculous! I was always taught that we need to come in contact with

>the germs to build immunity to them. So her theory is totally the

>opposite. Also I don't believe that having pets makes you sicker. In

>any case I am not going to sterilise my dog

I wouldn't sterilise my dog either if I were you! Hey, I ate my own

mud pies when I was a kid and it did me no harm. LOL! I believe

there is benefit in being in contact with " real " dirt, and I agree

that having a sterile house is ridiculous. Besides, it's not the

germs that are the problem, it's the body's immune system. The " germ

theory of disease " isn't true. I believe all dis-ease happens within

the body itself and doesn't have to have any outside influence to be

in unhealthy or sick.

> Thirdly her knowledge of the digestive process seems a little

>sketchy. Comments like " the body converts fat to sugar " had me

>scratching my head.

I think her statement is too simplified and not detailed enough.

I've read that " if required " the body can use protein or fat to keep

blood sugar levels balanced, and also proteins, fats and carbs all

have a mixture of each in them, so they are not purely one element.

> Then there's the liver cleanse (which I mentioned to you before). A

> friend of mum's turned up recently with a mason jar full of stones,

> which he says came out of his body after a cleanse. Now these were

>rock hard (definitely not soap stones). Whether they came from bile

>ducts or liver (or his back yard) is impossible to tell. So I now

>don't know what to believe.

I've looked into this issue quite a bit, and found that some people

have experimented with them, and if those " stones " are left long

enough they dissolve because they are mostly fat. A doctor sent some

of those stones to a lab who reported they were not gallstones. Who

knows what to believe however. It just doesn't make sense to me that

those stones got through such a small bile duct. But in any case I

don't believe there is such a thing as liver stones. I heard that

the liver regenerates itself every 3 months. If that's the case how

can they claim the stones have been there for years?

> Then there's the Zapper, claimed to destroy all parasites, viruses

>and bugs (including Candida). Her testing methods are a bit sketchy

>here too. I cant see her following a clear scientific method, so its

unclear> to me how she came to her conclusions. In any case my

husband built the> Zapper for me. I find that after using it I have a

tremendous increase> in energy to the point that I am having trouble

getting to sleep. One> other positive was the complete absence of PMS

(it wasn't that bad to> start with but I still knew it was coming).

The negative is that it> hasn't cured my cold (probably because the

virus hides in those pesky> liver stones she mentioned ?). Also this

process contradicts the old> Traditional Chinese Medicine theory

about electrical current> introducing " wind " into the body, which is

detrimental to health. So> here is another contradiction. Have you

had any experience with a> Zapper?

Zack gave you some interesting information about this too. I don't

know what to think about them. There is a lot of information about

the damage caused to the body by electromagnetics, electrical

currents, etc. but the Zapper technique uses such a tiny bit of

current it may affect a positive change. The body does have

electrical currents which can get blocked up, which can be unblocked

by certain massage techniques and maybe even reflexology.

> So, I don't really know what to believe here!

I don't have all the answers either Irene. I read something else

that was interesting - the lining of the bowel regenerates itself

every 3 weeks. I believe that some of these " far out " treatments

have no faith in the wonderful machine our bodies are.

The best to you Irene,

Bee

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> Irene, there is a big difference between " yeasts, molds & fungi " and

> lacto-fermented foods and drinks, which do not contain yeast, molds &

> fungi.

Kefir contains candida tropicalis and at least one other candida species I

believe, among other fungi. There seems to be a fairly prevalent line of

thought that says kefir isn't kefir without yeast/fungi, this is related to

the " fake " kefir they sell in stores. I don't know about other fermented

milk foods. Personally I think anything that isn't the particular pathogen

that's destroying my body is a good thing, so bring the fungus milk.

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Dear Elyse,

It would be okay to use as a face mask.

Bee

>

> I have some Yeast Buster's Bentonite Clay from before I knew it

wasn't

> good to take. I don't want to give it to anyone else for that

reason,

> is there anything else that it can be used for? (Maybe externally in

> the bath or as a facial mask) ?

>

> Elyse

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from what I have read the bentonite clay is harmless

and helps reduce cleansing reactions by absorbing some

of the toxins and aiding in their elimination. I

usually add 1 teaspoon to a drink and blend it or

follow the instructions on the bottle

Kim

--- shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm finishing up a parasite cleanse, and I'd like to

> do a bowel

> cleanse. I've done gallbladder flushes before, but I

> was too scared to

> use bentonite clay. I've bought some 100% bentonite

> clay and was going

> to use the recipe on sensiblehealth.com

>

> I was just wondering if anyone has any other tips or

> ways of doing it?

>

>

> thanks!

>

> shefy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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