Re: Detox protocol

January 9, 2001

, I think there are many different protocols floating around out there,

and since there are little to no studies on chronic low dose mercury

toxicity - in fact, in the medical world it's not even recognized - many

people tout many different protocols. Who is to say whose is best? My EI doc

in South Carolina has one protocol, there's a man named Cutler in

California who is a chemist and has written a book touting a protocol which

seems fairly safe and effective, using a combination of low dose DMSA and

eventually low dose alpha lipoic acid in combo with the DMSA (once the

mercury urine levels come down to acceptable limits), AROUND the clock every

three to four hours in order to keep a constant amount of the drug in your

system so the mercury that is pulled free has a chance to be excreted before

being redistributed to other tissues/organs. The ALA is for removing brain

mercury, after tissue mercury is cleared, since he claims it crosses the

BBB, and I believe there is some evidence that it does. No supplements, or

minimal supplements during a DMSA cycle, then heavy supplements in the off

cycle period. I have his e-mail addy somewhere in my files if you want/need

or don't already have it. Klinghardt has a protocol, as does Hal Huggins and

I believe, probably Sam Ziff. I believe you'd have to either post as many as

you can, or research some of these people's work and see what makes most

sense to you. Cutler's seems to make the most sense to me, although I am not

a candidate for DMSA myself. Join the amalgam list - you will learn the most

there. It is also an archived list and goes back several years. Very

interesting reading. I learned a lot there. There is a DMPS " backfire "

website which posts stories of folks who have been harmed by inappropriate

removal protocols - protocols which may work for some, but not everyone.

The sickest need the most detox but must go the slowest. There are also

non-drug protocols using supplements and herbs that may have merit - oil of

cilantro being one of the best. Be very careful about posting a detox

protocol. I was harmed by first being injected with DMPS when the literature

says it is contraindicated for people with asthma, then later with high dose

DMSA immediately upon amalgam removal. I was not at all self educated about

either of these drugs and blindly let them be given to me, but the very fact

that my bowels had shut down 4 years earlier, and were still not working at

the time, and most mercury excreted is through the GI tract was probably a

good indication I was not a candidate for these drugs. And I love my doc,

but he's a busy man and the studies are out there but take time to dig

up....and we sometimes ignore the obvious in our zeal for a cure or to make

a sick person well again!

Donna in NC

Detox Protocol

> Does anyone have an up to date protocol on detox once amalgams have been

> removed? Dr. Cranton's site mentions DMSA with regard to acute and

subacute

> problems, but he does not mention chronic problems, whic most of us have.

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

January 9, 2001

, I think there are many different protocols floating around out there,

Thank you Donna. I just today rejoined the amalgam list after being off of

it for a few years. Can you give me the protocol that makes the most sense

to you and tell me why it does?

January 9, 2001

There are also some interesting detox protocols with clay baths. They are

still too intense for me but have helped a friend of mine with sky high

numbers. He is also looking into someone is Germany is into some

product-making that involves getting Hg out of spinal column. I will post

when I get details...I agree that AMALGAM list would be a great read for

you.

> , I think there are many different protocols floating around out

there,

> and since there are little to no studies on chronic low dose mercury

> toxicity >

>

January 9, 2001

> Thank you Donna. I just today rejoined the amalgam list after being off

of it for a few years. Can you give me the protocol that makes the most

sense to you and tell me why it does?

,

I have been off the amalgam list for several months after switching IP

addresses, so am not sure if there are any new protocols out there that I've

not heard of, and nothing has popped up on the metals list, but I think if

one was to do chemical detox, Andy Cutler's protocol is probably the safest,

in that you can begin dosing at 50 mg DMSA and work up to 100 mg if well

tolerated over time, and also the idea that there is a constant source of

DMSA over the dosing period is important. Mercury readily deposits,

preferentially brain, kidneys, liver and gut. There's some great studies out

there that show sheep and monkeys who were given amalgam in their teeth

(about equivalent to the average person's amalgam and a tiny amount of it

radioactive), then sacrificed after thirty days and full body scans were

done which showed exactly where the mercury migrated to after only thirty

days. Amazing! Point is, it redistributes quickly, so the constant dose (and

Andy can give you half-lives....) makes sense. Then the body rests and the

mineral stores replenished before starting again. Some people wait a week or

two, while some people wait more if they have stronger detox reactions. Some

do it for a while, then quit and work on their liver restoration for a

while, then go back to the protocol. The " detoxee " is in control of the

dosing schedule. There are a few people on the metals list doing this at the

moment and reporting how each of their cycles is going. It is extremely

important that the liver be able to process well, i.e., I would do a liver

detox profile first to get an idea of how each detox phase is working, and

of course, the GI tract must be intact and able to eliminate properly or all

Hg will be redistributed, a lot to the Gi tract, adding to one's Candida

problem.

I do have some concerns about the alpha lipoic acid part of Andy's, but

without my notes at the moment, the reason why is escaping me. (Getting

close to bedtime and brain is shutting down). Ray Saarella on the amalgam

list and Andy argue vehemently about ALA's effectiveness, but I must admit a

great deal of their argument is way over my head from a chemistry

standpoint. Also, it does seem that there are conflicting studies, which

each party uses to make his case. I do remember, however, again, for me, ALA

is not an option anymore, although before my fiasco with DMPS and DMSA I

tolerated ALA fine. Of course, I had no sulfur problems before then either.

Hope this helps.

Donna

January 9, 2001

Re: Detox Protocol