Wild child while chelating DMSA/ALA

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Andy also talks about 2 day/11 day cycle as well. KH

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Greetings all! I've been reading with interest the discussion

regarding the timing of dosing. We have used several different

chelating agents over the past 2 years with unremarkable results save

one round of IV EDTA which pulled a ton of lead. So I know we are full

of lead. We had to take some time of to get yeast under control, etc.

Our DAN! prescribed DMSA/ALA and said to follow Cutler's protocol.

Therefore, I dosed on a three hour schedule for three days/nights.

Our child has been really wild and really has not slept much at all.

Other than that, things went pretty well. My question is: is that too

long a cycle - should I do three days two intervening nights? Should I

use DMSA only? Should I do 3/11 instead of 3/4 cycles?? Any thoughts

would be really appreciated. Thanks, Evan

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Hi Evan.

We also use DMSA and ALA on the Cutler protocol, every 3 hours in the day, 4

hours at night for 3 days (Fri afternoon until Mon morning). We more often do

3/11 than 3/4.

It seems like your schedule is fine...but what is your dose?

Our daughter is almost 5, 45 lbs, and uses 12.5 mg of each. Any more than that

makes her very lethargic, feverish, loopy, and sometimes nausceous. It may be

your dose.

You may want to isolate DMSA for a round or two just to see if it's the dmsa

she's reacting to, or if it's the ALA.

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From: " ewheitz4 " <ewheitz4@...>

> Greetings all! I've been reading with interest the discussion

> regarding the timing of dosing. We have used several different

> chelating agents over the past 2 years with unremarkable results save

> one round of IV EDTA which pulled a ton of lead. So I know we are full

> of lead. We had to take some time of to get yeast under control, etc.

> Our DAN! prescribed DMSA/ALA and said to follow Cutler's protocol.

> Therefore, I dosed on a three hour schedule for three days/nights.

>

> Our child has been really wild and really has not slept much at all.

> Other than that, things went pretty well. My question is: is that too

> long a cycle - should I do three days two intervening nights? Should I

> use DMSA only? Should I do 3/11 instead of 3/4 cycles?? Any thoughts

> would be really appreciated. Thanks, Evan

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> Greetings all! I've been reading with interest the discussion

> regarding the timing of dosing. We have used several different

> chelating agents over the past 2 years with unremarkable results

save

> one round of IV EDTA which pulled a ton of lead. So I know we are

full

> of lead. We had to take some time of to get yeast under control,

etc.

> Our DAN! prescribed DMSA/ALA and said to follow Cutler's protocol.

> Therefore, I dosed on a three hour schedule for three days/nights.

Personally, I would start with DMSA only and add the ALA 2 to 3 months

later, if side effects have been manageable (they should die down at

the proper dosage). In doing this, you will clear (to a large extent)

the body of mercury (and lead) before endeavoring to cross the blood-

brain barrier with ALA. In this way, you will establish a favorable

gradient which favors pulling metals OUT of the brain, rather than

dumping them IN. Make sure that you start at the low end of the

dosing range - for oral DMSA this would be somewhere between 1/8 to

1/4 mg. per lb. to start. The most common causes of unmanageable side

effects are dosages which are too high or too far apart.

Although I'm sure that some people have good results starting DMSA &

ALA together, I wouldn't do it with kids in general, or adults that

have had recent exposure.

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I have found the side effects of chelation are the same at the same

dose no matter how long the cycle is. I agree with others about the

dose. If the side effects are not manageable the dose needs to be

lowered. It's easier to figure out the right dose by using DMSA alone

for some cycles until you are sure that the dose is right, and then

adding ALA at a low dose.

J

>

> Greetings all! I've been reading with interest the discussion

> regarding the timing of dosing. We have used several different

> chelating agents over the past 2 years with unremarkable results save

> one round of IV EDTA which pulled a ton of lead. So I know we are full

> of lead. We had to take some time of to get yeast under control, etc.

> Our DAN! prescribed DMSA/ALA and said to follow Cutler's protocol.

> Therefore, I dosed on a three hour schedule for three days/nights.

>

> Our child has been really wild and really has not slept much at all.

> Other than that, things went pretty well. My question is: is that too

> long a cycle - should I do three days two intervening nights? Should I

> use DMSA only? Should I do 3/11 instead of 3/4 cycles?? Any thoughts

> would be really appreciated. Thanks, Evan

>

[Guest guest]

> Our DAN! prescribed DMSA/ALA and said to follow Cutler's protocol.

> Therefore, I dosed on a three hour schedule for three days/nights.

>

> Our child has been really wild and really has not slept much at all.

> Other than that, things went pretty well.

Are you giving supplements? Minerals are very important.

Maybe it's yeast?

Valentina