Re: Regression/Violence in Puberty

[Guest guest]

Given what you write, I would take a look at the Geier's interview

on Autism Media. THey are doing research into mercury and

testosterone, so you're theory and the DPT and the puberty

interacting may be accurate. Here's the link.

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

You may also be interested the Reverend Sykes' interview, as

her son is being treated with this protocal.

http://www.autismmedia.org/media10.html

Good Luck!

Ruth

>

> I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has

become

> agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.

> I believe it started with a DPT shot in August at his dr.s

office. At

> first I told them no, but they said it was mercury free, prefilled

> syringe, and that at his age it would not have any effect

> developementally, and that he HAD to have it for school. I'm sure

that

> puberty is a big problem here too, he seems to be trying to

sexually

> arouse himself all day long. I regret with all my heart allowing

the

> DPT shot, and feel I was misled by a doctor I felt I could trust.

> I have a two year old in the home, and am expecting again in May,

and

> even though he has never shown agitation towards her, I am

becoming

> fearful of what he is capable of. He usually goes after me, and

since

> I am almost 6 months pregnant, that is also posing a big problem.

> Can the damage be undone?

> Help!

> Laurel

>

[Guest guest]

we tried chelation a few years ago, and when I asked the DAN doctor

about the results, he blew past it like they were insignificant, and

wanted to go straight to HIS specialty, allergies and such. We

tried his horrific diet for 3 months with no changes, and there was

basically nothing left for my son to eat!! He was basically

starving, so we finally took him off and never went back.

does anyone know who can do chelation in the Kansas City area

besides our local DAN doctor?

> >

> > I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has

> become

> > agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.

> > I believe it started with a DPT shot in August at his dr.s

> office. At

> > first I told them no, but they said it was mercury free,

prefilled

> > syringe, and that at his age it would not have any effect

> > developementally, and that he HAD to have it for school. I'm

sure

> that

> > puberty is a big problem here too, he seems to be trying to

> sexually

> > arouse himself all day long. I regret with all my heart allowing

> the

> > DPT shot, and feel I was misled by a doctor I felt I could trust.

> > I have a two year old in the home, and am expecting again in

May,

> and

> > even though he has never shown agitation towards her, I am

> becoming

> > fearful of what he is capable of. He usually goes after me, and

> since

> > I am almost 6 months pregnant, that is also posing a big problem.

> > Can the damage be undone?

> > Help!

> > Laurel

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Many on this list do chelation without a doctor. You can order DDI hair

elements tests yourself through DLS. You can buy oral ALA at HFS and oral DMSA

on-line/by phone. You can get lots of good advice and opinions on this list and

from Andy Cutler's books. Most likely the DAN doc you went to didn't use

appropriate dose and dosing schedule. You can learn about those and the reasons

for them in the FAQs of this list.

S S

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we tried chelation a few years ago, and when I asked the DAN doctor <BR>

about the results, he blew past it like they were insignificant, and <BR>

wanted to go straight to HIS specialty, allergies and such.  We <BR>

tried his horrific diet for 3 months with no changes, and there was <BR>

basically nothing left for my son to eat!!  He was basically <BR>

starving, so we finally took him off and never went back.<BR>

does anyone know who can do chelation in the Kansas City area <BR>

besides our local DAN doctor?  <BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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> ><BR>

> > I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has <BR>

> become <BR>

> > agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.<BR>

> > I believe it started with a DPT shot in August at his dr.s <BR>

> office.  At <BR>

> > first I told them no, but they said it was mercury free, <BR>

prefilled <BR>

> > syringe, and that at his age it would not have any effect <BR>

> > developementally, and that he HAD to have it for school. I'm <BR>

sure <BR>

> that <BR>

> > puberty is a big problem here too, he seems to be trying to <BR>

> sexually <BR>

> > arouse himself all day long. I regret with all my heart allowing <BR>

> the <BR>

> > DPT shot, and feel I was misled by a doctor I felt I could trust.<BR>

> > I have a two year old in the home, and am expecting again in <BR>

May, <BR>

> and <BR>

> > even though he has never shown agitation towards her, I am <BR>

> becoming <BR>

> > fearful of what he is capable of.  He usually goes after me, and <BR>

> since <BR>

> > I am almost 6 months pregnant, that is also posing a big problem.<BR>

> > Can the damage be undone?<BR>

> > Help!<BR>

> > Laurel<BR>

> ><BR>

><BR>

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[Guest guest]

DPT triggered my nephew's autism.

S S

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Given what you write, I would take a look at the Geier's interview <BR>

on Autism Media. THey are doing research into mercury and <BR>

testosterone, so you're theory and the DPT and the puberty <BR>

interacting may be accurate.  Here's the link.<BR>

<BR>

<a

href= " http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html " >http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.\

html</a><BR>

<BR>

You may also be interested the Reverend Sykes' interview, as <BR>

her son is being treated with this protocal.<BR>

<a

href= " http://www.autismmedia.org/media10.html " >http://www.autismmedia.org/media1\

0.html</a><BR>

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Good Luck!<BR>

<BR>

Ruth<BR>

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> I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has <BR>

become <BR>

> agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.<BR>

> I believe it started with a DPT shot in August at his dr.s <BR>

office.  At <BR>

> first I told them no, but they said it was mercury free, prefilled <BR>

> syringe, and that at his age it would not have any effect <BR>

> developementally, and that he HAD to have it for school. I'm sure <BR>

that <BR>

> puberty is a big problem here too, he seems to be trying to <BR>

sexually <BR>

> arouse himself all day long. I regret with all my heart allowing <BR>

the <BR>

> DPT shot, and feel I was misled by a doctor I felt I could trust.<BR>

> I have a two year old in the home, and am expecting again in May, <BR>

and <BR>

> even though he has never shown agitation towards her, I am <BR>

becoming <BR>

> fearful of what he is capable of.  He usually goes after me, and <BR>

since <BR>

> I am almost 6 months pregnant, that is also posing a big problem.<BR>

> Can the damage be undone?<BR>

> Help!<BR>

> Laurel<BR>

><BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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[Guest guest]

I'm starting to feel way over my head!

>

> > I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has become

> > agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.

>

> Maybe you would like to read about low serotonin and aggression.

> Maybe you could try some supplements and see if anything changes.

>

>

> Valentina

>

[Guest guest]

> I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has become

> agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.

Maybe you would like to read about low serotonin and aggression.

Maybe you could try some supplements and see if anything changes.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

yes, I just read the geier protocol with great interest. It could be the

testosterone.......even in girls.

We live in KC also. OUR son regressed to being autistic DURING puberty.

Before, I suspected he might be a tad autistic, but during puberty, its like

gone into laymans terms....full on obvious autism. sad but true.

for violence...he gets no video games if he's violent so that fixed it....He

really loves his video games. I recommend highly getting an Xbox 360 and

then take it away if he misbehaves...coercive yes, but effective.

We have our first appointment with the only Dan in KC....we are from KC

too......so can you email me privately and tell me EVERYTHING!!!!

Dish....scoop...gossip...rag....tell all....

I have a Dr. Cathcart in California to call. (650) 949-2822. His specialty

is chelation and he may know of a doc in our area who specializes in

chelation. The type he does is iv's with magnesium and sodium edta. Don't

know what this list's take is on those. He is a orthomolecular physician.

Then, there is another Mc something place that does iv chelation around

here.....google it.

Plus....you could do it on your own with the help of this list...which is a

route we might go if the Dan doesn't work out.

[Guest guest]

he hasn't been sleeping well, or eating as well as he used to.

>

> Well... I can't blame you... I don't think anybody truly

understands about

> neurotransmitters and how they really work. Even doctors and

specialists...

> if they knew so much about these things, they wouldn't prescribe

MAOA and B

> inhibitors and Serotonin reuptake inhibitors and who knows... all

those other

> drugs, to everybody that steps in their offices, even to 3-4 year

olds....

> I myself don't understand much, but I happened to read that low

serotonin

> might make one very aggressive.

> Serotonin is an inhibitory neurotransmitter. It's meant to inhibit

fear and

> aggression, etc. We all have moments when we feel like exploding.

But then if

> you're low serotonin apparently it's easier to act on your

feelings.

> Something like that... I am sorry I cannot help you more, but I

don't

> understand more. It is very complicated... Sometimes, even if you

have enough

> Serotonin, it is reuptaken too fast (or something like that) or

broken down

> too fast, and your body still feels a need for more...

> There is also a connection with the Dopamine (and noradrenaline and

> adrenaline).

> If it was my son, and I would suspect low Serotonin, I would maybe

try some

> supplements... like 5HTP for example and B3 maybe. How is he

sleeping? What

> other symptoms does he have? Is he also depressed, is he eating

well, is he

> learning well... etc. Does he have yeast overgrowth maybe? Did you

start a

> new supplement recently? (my son became very aggressive when I

gave him B6.

> Also, when we took Nystatin, we both became easily aggressive)

>

>

> Valentina

>

>

>

> > I'm starting to feel way over my head!

> >

> > > > I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has

become

> > > > agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.

> > >

> > > Maybe you would like to read about low serotonin and

aggression.

> > > Maybe you could try some supplements and see if anything

changes.

> > >

> > >

> > > Valentina

>

[Guest guest]

> he hasn't been sleeping well, or eating as well as he used to.

So do you give him any supplements?

Chelation?

Anything?

Something must have triggered this. Even if it's just the age, I would think

that there must be some supplements that could help this.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

I think low serotonin, high testosterone, mercury, viruses from the

DPT shot, and puberty could all or some of them be causing the

aggression and violence as the previous posters have mentioned.

But I wanted to chime in with a solution for now that might help

while you are exploring these other options. I like the Emotional

Freedom Technique (EFT) for me and my children. The main website is

at http://emofree.com/. They have a free downloadable instruction

manual that would get you started and local practitioners, many who

are degreed and certified in other areas and therefore billable on

your insurance, can be found through their website also. Even if

there is no local practitioner, it can be done all by telephone.

I have used EFT just from the free manual and the free e-newsletters

and love it. I am going to an all day seminar tomorrow on it by a

local practitioner and am really looking forward to it. They have

100s of success cases listed at http://www.emofree.com/eft-at-

work.htm.

We are currently chelating my 13 yo son and he gets angry and yells

sometimes too, not the violence really though. After this seminar I'm

going to start using EFT more with him. I've noticed that video games

get him agitated also so we try to limit those.

D.

>

> I have a 14 year old son that within the last few months has become

> agressive and violent on almost a daily basis.

> I believe it started with a DPT shot in August at his dr.s office.

At

> first I told them no, but they said it was mercury free, prefilled

> syringe, and that at his age it would not have any effect

> developementally, and that he HAD to have it for school. I'm sure

that

> puberty is a big problem here too, he seems to be trying to

sexually

> arouse himself all day long. I regret with all my heart allowing

the

> DPT shot, and feel I was misled by a doctor I felt I could trust.

> I have a two year old in the home, and am expecting again in May,

and

> even though he has never shown agitation towards her, I am becoming

> fearful of what he is capable of. He usually goes after me, and

since

> I am almost 6 months pregnant, that is also posing a big problem.

> Can the damage be undone?

> Help!

> Laurel

>

[Guest guest]

He does take vitamins, he has had a round of chelation once, but our

local DAN doc is a quack IMO, and wanted to breeze past that and go

straight to food allergies, putting my son on basically a starvation

diet of about 6 foods he was allowed to have, and had to rotate even

those. We feel a DPT shot in August, plus the height of puberty is

basically what is causing this violence and other problems.

>

> > he hasn't been sleeping well, or eating as well as he used to.

>

> So do you give him any supplements?

> Chelation?

> Anything?

> Something must have triggered this. Even if it's just the age, I

would think

> that there must be some supplements that could help this.

>

>

>

> Valentina

>

[Guest guest]

> developementally, and that he HAD to have it for school.

This won't help for this time, but next time find your state here and

waive any vax

http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/allstates.htm

>>I'm sure that

> puberty is a big problem here too, he seems to be trying to sexually

> arouse himself all day long.

For my son [who is 9], this meant yeast overgrowth

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

> He does take vitamins, he has had a round of chelation once, but our

> local DAN doc is a quack IMO, and wanted to breeze past that and go

> straight to food allergies, putting my son on basically a starvation

> diet of about 6 foods he was allowed to have, and had to rotate even

> those. We feel a DPT shot in August, plus the height of puberty is

> basically what is causing this violence and other problems.

You know, from all the vaccines, the DTP is the one I am afraid of the most.

I believe the DTP did it for my son too.

I am very sorry you have such problems... Try supplements, see what works for

him. Did you think about trying the 5HTP? Also, try digestive enzymes.

Houston enzymes are really worth the money.

Valentina