Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 > Hello! I've been reading the posts everyday and checking out > different websites. I read some recovery stories on Dana's website > about chelating. What is ALA? Alpha lipoic acid, from the local health food store. It removes heavy metals from the body. More info here http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 ALA generally dumps the metals in the stool. I only tested once whilst using it for 3 years as its very expensive and hit and miss whether you catch the 'right' sample. If your chjild is improving, albeit slowly as in our case, then you keep going ALA is supportive of the liver and a fine antioxidant in its own right, there really is no need for monitoring tests IMHO Mandi in UK How did the toxic elements eliminate when you used ALA to chelate your son(s)? Urine, Stool? What tests did you use to monitor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 > Dana: > > How did the toxic elements eliminate when you used ALA to chelate your > son(s)? Urine, Stool? ALA excretes thru the bm. >>What tests did you use to monitor? Observation only. >>Finally, > what pushed you in that direction (versus other chelation methods)? ALA is supportive of the liver, rather than stressful to the liver. I don't have access to medical testing, so I was not comfortable giving something that would stress the liver and kidneys. ALA is available at my local health food store. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dana, did you do ALA three times a day 3 days on and 11 days off? How did you do it? Thanks, Kristy On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:51 AM, danasview wrote: > > > Dana: > > > > How did the toxic elements eliminate when you used ALA to chelate > your > > son(s)? Urine, Stool? > > > ALA excretes thru the bm. > > > >>What tests did you use to monitor? > > > Observation only. > > > >>Finally, > > what pushed you in that direction (versus other chelation methods)? > > > ALA is supportive of the liver, rather than stressful to the liver. > > I don't have access to medical testing, so I was not comfortable > giving something that would stress the liver and kidneys. > > ALA is available at my local health food store. > > Dana > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 > Dana, did you do ALA three times a day 3 days on and 11 days off? Usually 3 days on and 4 days off. Sometimes 4-6 days on and 4-6 days off. >>How > did you do it? Oral ALA. Not sure what else you might mean. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Alpha Lipoic Acid is a naturally occurring amino acid with two sulfer atoms spaced closely enough for adequate chelation of heavy metal ions. The fact that it's " lipoic " , or oil based, means that it can cross the CNS (blood/brain) barrier. I don't know what Alpha Linolenic acid is. If you say it's an essential fatty acid, that's fine, but I don't think it's the same thing. Mark > > Hi All, > > I hear this word ALA used all the time in the list . I understand its > Alpha linolenic acid -- an EFA. > Now, is this something available as a supplement or do we need to use > Flax seed oil and other which has this in it ( i assume). I also read > from the posts in the list that most of you use it with Chelation. Does > this have to be used only during chelation ? If a supplement is > available can i start using it? What would be the suggested dosage for > a 21/2 yr old weighing 28 lbs ? > > Are Black Currant Oil and Fish oil sources of Essential Fatty Acids? > > Regards, > Kavitha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Both alpha lipoic acid and alpha linolenic acid are abbreviated as ALA. Confusing. One must NOT use Alpha lipoic acid on anyone who has mercury amalgam dental fillings. Alpha lipoic acid is a chelation agent which chelates mercury and arsenic. Another has explained Andy Cutler's chelation protocol. Please read the FAQs of this list for an explanation of the reasons behind and importance of the dosing schedule. Does your child have mercury and arsenic issues? S S <tt> Hi All,<BR> <BR> I hear this word ALA used all the time in the list . I understand its <BR> Alpha linolenic acid -- an EFA. <BR> Now, is this something available as a supplement or do we need to use <BR> Flax seed oil and other which has this in it ( i assume). I also read <BR> from the posts in the list that most of you use it with Chelation. Does <BR> this have to be used only during chelation ? If a supplement is <BR> available can i start using it? What would be the suggested dosage for <BR> a 21/2 yr old weighing 28 lbs ? <BR> <BR> Are Black Currant Oil and Fish oil sources of Essential Fatty Acids? <BR> <BR> Regards,<BR> Kavitha<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 > > Hi All, > > I hear this word ALA used all the time in the list . I understand its > Alpha linolenic acid -- an EFA. -- You are thinking of gamma linoleic acid (GLA), which is found in evening primrose and borage Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi Steve, No, Alpha Linoleic Acid *is* an EFA. It's confusing, but the ALA referred to on list is a differen acid with the same abbreviation: Alpho Lipoic Acid. steve_rotherham wrote: > > > >>Hi All, >> >>I hear this word ALA used all the time in the list . I understand its >>Alpha linolenic acid -- an EFA. >> >> > >-- You are thinking of gamma linoleic acid (GLA), which is found in >evening primrose and borage > >Steve > > > > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 No, it's alpha LIPOIC acid. BIG DIFFERENCE! Barb [ ] ALA Hi All, I hear this word ALA used all the time in the list . I understand its Alpha linolenic acid -- an EFA. Now, is this something available as a supplement or do we need to use Flax seed oil and other which has this in it ( i assume). I also read from the posts in the list that most of you use it with Chelation. Does this have to be used only during chelation ? If a supplement is available can i start using it? What would be the suggested dosage for a 21/2 yr old weighing 28 lbs ? Are Black Currant Oil and Fish oil sources of Essential Fatty Acids? Regards, Kavitha ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 > > Hi Steve, > > No, Alpha Linoleic Acid *is* an EFA. It's confusing, but the ALA > referred to on list is a differen acid with the same abbreviation: Alpho > Lipoic Acid. > > D'oh! I stand corrected. Alpha linoleic acid is the omega 3 found in flaxseed and other plant sources. Some people can convert it efficiently to DHA or EPA, but many can't. Obviously if gamma linoleic acid (omega 6 from borage, evening primrsoe, etc) is abbreviated to GLA, some references must abbreviate alpha linoleic acid to ALA, hence the confusion. BTW: best source of alpha linoleic acid, IMO< is ground flaxseed, such as Kirkman EFA, which we give as a source of extra emoega 3 during chelation. flaxseed oil itself goes rancid too easily. But many people say perilla is a good vegetarian source. But you can't beat fish oils Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi we recently did a blood test which our DAN Dr ordered. I was of the opinion it was to check levels of mercury and Aluminium. So I consulted with the pathologist after receiving the results and asked him how and why is methyl mercury high and discovered after speaking to him that it was a test to check for allergy and not the level of mercury. Nevertheless Sebastian has a high reading of being allergic to methyl mercury. Even though I've spoken to the pathologist I still do not really understand why his allergy is specifically to methyl mercury. (so much for understanding the tests, sometimes I feel I should have become a doctor before having children!!! it really would have helped. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Is ALA from Kirkman's OK? I know I read in the files that it should be certain kinds of ALA. I need to find a product that comes in capsules with a smaller amt of ALA because my daughter is so young and only 20 lbs. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 > > Is ALA from Kirkman's OK? I know I read in the files that it should be > certain kinds of ALA. > I need to find a product that comes in capsules with a smaller amt of > ALA because my daughter is so young and only 20 lbs. > > Thanks, > > We use Kirkman's. It works just fine. It comes in 25mg capsules, which is a good thing - easier dividing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 My kids did really well on Natura's amino max that has ala in it. They did not tolerate Kirkmans. Got REALLY hyper and would hit. Deb > > > > Is ALA from Kirkman's OK? I know I read in the files that it should > be > > certain kinds of ALA. > > I need to find a product that comes in capsules with a smaller amt > of > > ALA because my daughter is so young and only 20 lbs. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 > > Is ALA from Kirkman's OK? I know I read in the files that it should be > certain kinds of ALA. > I need to find a product that comes in capsules with a smaller amt of > ALA because my daughter is so young and only 20 lbs. I like Natural Factors brand from my local health food store, altho it comes in a higher dose that you would have to divide down. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 , Thank you. I always look at their stuff from the " product " list on the left and couldn't find it that way. I have to say, dealing with 25 mg capsules is easier than the 100 mgs I have been dealing with recently! Thanks again. Anne > > > > But only the one with " extra stuff " comes in 25 mg capsules, right? > > > > No, see: > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/cgi-bin/hse/HomepageSearchEngine.cgi? url=http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/antioxidant/alpha_lipoic/AlphaH O_C_25mg_90_Spec281.html;geturl=d+highlightmatches+gotofirstmatch;terms =lipoic#firstmatch > > W. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 > > Hi > > we recently did a blood test which our DAN Dr ordered. I was of the opinion it was to check levels of mercury and Aluminium. So I consulted with the pathologist after receiving the results and asked him how and why is methyl mercury high and discovered after speaking to him that it was a test to check for allergy and not the level of mercury. Nevertheless Sebastian has a high reading of being allergic to methyl mercury. Even though I've spoken to the pathologist I still do not really understand why his allergy is specifically to methyl mercury. (so much for understanding the tests, sometimes I feel I should have become a doctor before having children!!! it really would have helped. > > Tina Maybe pediatricians should become parents before becoming doctors, too! Doesn't always help, though :-) I've heard of these allergy tests, but don't know much about them. Might mean he will be more sensitive to side effects of mercury during chelation - if so, you might consider NAET treatment. I agree with Andy's suggestion about posting the full hair test, so we can be clear about Sebastian's toxicity before suggesting what to do. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 The ALA referred to here is generally alpha lipoic acid, not alpha linoleic acid (omega 3 fatty acids). > > > Is ALA the same as flax seed oil? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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