/Dana/was: viral protocol - more questions

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Dana, or anyone else who feel that could help here:

I have further questions/comments on this issue as it is ongoing and I am sort

of puzzled by what's happening.

Here's what I did:

Saturday gave my son about 50 mg OLE three times a day, in addition to the

upped yeast support stuff (probiotics, Candease, GSE, no-fenol)

EXCELLENT gains, in every way.... BUT new stimming began. Better stimming, if

you can call it that way. Instead of making impossible towers all the time (and

nobody is allowed to touch them or take them down, or there's HUGE

issues/screaming) now the lining is HORIZONTAL. The tantrums are much milder

when we clean the lines of things up (it's so funny, he would be making a snake

from the kitchen all the way across the living room; sometimes the line would

branch off, which is showing more creativity and flexibility I think! he is also

using up the doggie's toys now!)

I have seen some bad thrush over the weekend but my son would be better very

shortly after I would give him extra capsules of Candease... so no big issues

there, at least for now.

Anyhow, here's the thing. After two days (last dose of OLE was Monday evening)

I stopped giving him the OLE b/c I have seen signs of him getting sick again

(just a stuffy cold-type of a thing) and I really did not want him to get sick

while we are on our vacation in Spring break - leaving on Friday. Should have

thought of this earlier....

Despite me stopping the OLE, Evan's gains remained about the same, although I

have noticed perhaps a bit less engagement with me and more lining up things. I

started interrupting/cleaning it up, and he would scream but not too bad. He has

been still very well tuned in and receptive, his eating is unbelievable (variety

and amount both), sleeping quite OK (8 hrs straight).

I have read the file on viruses and enzymes, but I am still wondering how

would OLE work for viruses and what the doses would be/what kind of a regimen to

use. I know that most of us don't really understand how the whole viral thing

works, but I was wondering if anyone had any further ideas for me on what may be

happening to my son.

So he has this cold now, and I gave him this morning just a little bit of OLE

again (after a two day break) - about 25 mg to help him battle the virus (I am

hoping that's what the OLE would do, despite the break) coming out or just

normally acquired, I am not sure. Last time I did OLE (in Yeast Aid, about 3-4

weeks ago) my son had the same cold like symptoms also and then vomitting a bit

two nights, and that was it. I think the gains more-less stayed with him.

An hour after I had given him the yeast supps and the OLE this morning I could

see an apparent change to ever better receptive language, just amazing eye

contact, and spontaneous expressive language/word approximations. His anxiety so

reduced, unbelievable (I had to take my husband's car this morning and my son

usually freaks/cries/needs some time to adjust when this happens, but today he

climed in with a smile. At school he smiled at the teacher picking him up from

my car....just amazing)

What i am seeing just makes me want to continue with OLE all the time!

And I know I have asked about the duration of OLE treatment, as well as

schedule/dosing before....

Dana responded to my question like this:

" I have been doing Virastop and OLE since September of last year, and my kids

still have yeast with the anti-virals, so I am still going.

It depends on how bad are the virus issues, and what you are using to eliminate

them.

For my son, I have personally witnessed what appeared to be a virus " breaking "

three times, and we are not done yet. "

I am only doing OLE right now. Do you think that adding ViraStop would

possibly help my son with battling the viruses better/with lesser side

effects/faster?

Could these colds be a sign of viruses being re-activated? Adding virastop may

then possibly eliminate them?

I am sorry if I sound very slow in understanding this, but when I write and

ask questions, that's when/how I learn and expand my mental schema, really.

Do you think it is OK to do a few weeks of viral protocol, then give it a

break (so that my son does not have a cold all the time)?

Do you think it was all right to give him a few days off when I saw him

getting sick, or once I start to tackle the viruses, I should give it at least a

week or two without interruptions?

And can you do a viral protocol during chelation? I am planning to start with

Andy's protocol at the end of the month, after our vacation.

Please advise! I think I am on the right track here, but not a 100 percent

sure about it.

Thanks so much for everyone's continuing support...!

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> Saturday gave my son about 50 mg OLE three times a day, in

addition to the upped yeast support stuff (probiotics, Candease, GSE,

no-fenol)

>

> EXCELLENT gains, in every way....

Increasing the dose caused improvements for my son also.

>>BUT new stimming began. Better stimming, if you can call it that

way. Instead of making impossible towers all the time (and nobody is

allowed to touch them or take them down, or there's HUGE

issues/screaming) now the lining is HORIZONTAL.

For my son, the initial improvement in this area was opposite. His

lines were always horizontal and stretched throughout the house, and

the improvement was vertical towers instead.

> Anyhow, here's the thing. After two days (last dose of OLE was

Monday evening) I stopped giving him the OLE b/c I have seen signs of

him getting sick again (just a stuffy cold-type of a thing)

For my son, this would have been a cold virus coming out of his

body/brain. I would have kept the OLE to fully elimnate it.

> I have read the file on viruses and enzymes, but I am still

wondering how would OLE work for viruses and what the doses would

be/what kind of a regimen to use. I know that most of us don't really

understand how the whole viral thing works, but I was wondering if

anyone had any further ideas for me on what may be happening to my son.

It sounds to me like the virus/es were starting to come out. I would

start the OLE again.

> An hour after I had given him the yeast supps and the OLE this

morning I could see an apparent change to ever better receptive

language, just amazing eye contact, and spontaneous expressive

language/word approximations. His anxiety so reduced, unbelievable (I

had to take my husband's car this morning and my son usually

freaks/cries/needs some time to adjust when this happens, but today he

climed in with a smile. At school he smiled at the teacher picking him

up from my car....just amazing)

>

> What i am seeing just makes me want to continue with OLE all the

time!

Yep. Keep it for at least several months, if not longer. I gave it

to my son for a year, then mistakenly thought I could stop when his

progressed " leveled out " . The first time I removed it, major

regression, so I kept it. The second time I removed it, no change so

I thought I was done. But then he got a cold which I watched go right

into his brain. So now I have given him OLE [and Virastop] since last

September, with very good results.

> I am only doing OLE right now. Do you think that adding ViraStop

would possibly help my son with battling the viruses better/with

lesser side effects/faster?

For my family, yes. The combination is VERY effective. It does tend

to stir up more yeast tho, so watch for that. But the gains have been

incredible.

> Could these colds be a sign of viruses being re-activated?

For my kids, " coming out " , not necessarily re-activated. While the

viruses were in their bodies/brains, they were still " active " , but not

in usual virus-related ways. They were preventing language

acquisition, causing visual stims, etc. On their way out, they cause

typical cold [or flu] symptoms, usually for a very short duration like

24 hours, then they are gone. When they come out as rashes, it takes

longer.

>> Adding virastop may then possibly eliminate them?

That's how it works over here.

> Do you think it is OK to do a few weeks of viral protocol, then

give it a break (so that my son does not have a cold all the time)?

My son does not have a cold all the time. They come and go in waves.

The colds are usually 1-2 days long, followed by a stretch of time

without a cold, altho maybe a rash.

I would NEVER stop the viral protocol, because that gives the virus

time to go back to where it was, and replicate and increase. Giving a

lot of vitamin C has mostly prevented them from going back into the brain.

> Do you think it was all right to give him a few days off when I

saw him getting sick,

I stopped for two days a few months ago when my son had the stomach

flu and he could not keep anything down. But started again as soon as

he was better. Otherwise, I keep giving the anti-virals, ESPECIALLY

when sick. When I was sick, I actually *increased* my anti-virals,

and I was able to function and even work that day, without major

discomfort. It did cause a LOT of yeast for me tho.

>> or once I start to tackle the viruses, I should give it at least a

week or two without interruptions?

Keep going, don't stop.

> And can you do a viral protocol during chelation? I am planning to

start with Andy's protocol at the end of the month, after our vacation.

Yes, altho be sure you have a good yeast protocol, and keep a stable

dose of anti-virals at the beginning, so you can keep things under

control.

Dana