Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Oh wow. They need to figure out if IV EDTA chelation carries this risk will all kids, or if there was something unusual here. This solidifies my fear of IV treatment across the board. Perhaps not rational, but that's still my reaction. I feel so badly for the parents. They were only trying to right a wrong. I also feel for the doctor. I'm sure he is a good man. To the parents out there who are doing IV-EDTA: what are you going to do? Will this stop any of you from seeing someone like Dr. Buttar? He is Dr. IV these days. Pam > > Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy > Friday, January 06, 2006 > > By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his > doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation > therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism. > > The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has > been listed as accidental while the investigation continues. > > The findings released by the County coroner's office don't > say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died from > the way the treatment was administered. > > In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine tetra- > acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of oxygen > to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said Allegheny > County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan. > > The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at > the request of County Coroner Bill Young. > > " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and the > lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a > total package, based on the autopsy, the histology [tissue sampling] > and the toxicology [blood sampling], " Mr. Strimlan said. > > The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of > whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. > Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine. > > The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. The > other categories are natural, suicide and homicide. > > Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County District > Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray Melder, > of the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest > should be scheduled. He said the determination that the death was > accidental could change, depending on what additional information is > gleaned from an inquest, if one is held. > > The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England last > spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. > Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning. > > During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, > office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest. > > He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a synthetic > amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to > treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the > bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine. > > Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating > as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have > undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers > autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable > condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the bloodstream. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 You know what else? When something like this happens, nothing else matters. In people's eyes, chelation becomes very dangerous. Even my husband... I chelated my son for many years with great success. My husband was never against it but he is not interested in details... he trusts that whatever I do is OK. A few months ago when a similar story was in the news, he asked me if I heard about it and if maybe I should stop chelating Denis. Of course I don't use EDTA. I used ALA and supplements. I don't use IV, I use oral chelators. Nothing matters. The story says BIG: " Chelation is dangerous " . That's the message that goes in people's minds. I think it is too sad Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dr. Buttar's office said in this case they did a 'push' and not a 'drip'. They have done the drip on 100s of people and have never lost anyone. Of course, they require certain testing be done ahead of time to ensure that you are healthy enough for it. One blind child (a type of young macular degeneration I believe) is starting to see due to the IV treatments. We have done 4 sets of IVs on my son. The only reason we may not continue is the expense, lost school days, stress, and not enough results to make it worthwhile -- but we are waiting for the latest test results to decide for sure. Please, no direct mail telling me I am risking my son's life. Lets just agree to disagree. D. > > > > Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy > > Friday, January 06, 2006 > > > > By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > > > A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his > > doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation > > therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism. > > > > The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has > > been listed as accidental while the investigation continues. > > > > The findings released by the County coroner's office don't > > say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died > from > > the way the treatment was administered. > > > > In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine tetra- > > acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of oxygen > > to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said Allegheny > > County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan. > > > > The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at > > the request of County Coroner Bill Young. > > > > " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and > the > > lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a > > total package, based on the autopsy, the histology [tissue > sampling] > > and the toxicology [blood sampling], " Mr. Strimlan said. > > > > The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of > > whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. > > Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine. > > > > The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. > The > > other categories are natural, suicide and homicide. > > > > Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County > District > > Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray > Melder, > > of the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest > > should be scheduled. He said the determination that the death was > > accidental could change, depending on what additional information > is > > gleaned from an inquest, if one is held. > > > > The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England > last > > spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. > > Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning. > > > > During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, > > office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest. > > > > He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a > synthetic > > amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to > > treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the > > bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine. > > > > Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating > > as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have > > undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers > > autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable > > condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the > bloodstream. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Some safely chelating children should write letters to the editor of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette or to Kane explaining (for the reaers) the differences between oral and IV and between different chelators, doses, and dosing schedules. S S <tt> Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy<BR> Friday, January 06, 2006<BR> <BR> By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette<BR> <BR> A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his <BR> doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation <BR> therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism.<BR> <BR> The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has <BR> been listed as accidental while the investigation continues.<BR> <BR> The findings released by the County coroner's office don't <BR> say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died from <BR> the way the treatment was administered.<BR> <BR> In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine tetra-<BR> acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of oxygen <BR> to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said Allegheny <BR> County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan.<BR> <BR> The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at <BR> the request of County Coroner Bill Young.<BR> <BR> " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and the <BR> lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a <BR> total package, based on the autopsy, the histology [tissue sampling] <BR> and the toxicology [blood sampling], " Mr. Strimlan said.<BR> <BR> The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of <BR> whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. <BR> Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine.<BR> <BR> The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. The <BR> other categories are natural, suicide and homicide.<BR> <BR> Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County District <BR> Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray Melder, <BR> of the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest <BR> should be scheduled. He said the determination that the death was <BR> accidental could change, depending on what additional information is <BR> gleaned from an inquest, if one is held.<BR> <BR> The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England last <BR> spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. <BR> Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning.<BR> <BR> During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, <BR> office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest.<BR> <BR> He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a synthetic <BR> amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to <BR> treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the <BR> bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine.<BR> <BR> Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating <BR> as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have <BR> undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers <BR> autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable <BR> condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the bloodstream.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 As far as I know, this is the only death. And, from what I understand, it is not so much that the guy did an IV push, but that he used the wrong EDTA for the push. Apparently, you can use disodium EDTA with a drip, but if you are going to do a push, you must use calcium EDTA. That is apparently the mistake that was made. (There is no record of this doctor purchasing calcium EDTA - onyl disodium EDTA.) Ruth Dr. Buttar's office said in this case they did a 'push' and not > a 'drip'. ... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 The question that remains is why does anyone ever give an EDTA IV to a child anyway? It has been widely known for a long time that EDTA is not very useful to remove mercury (see Remington, a reference book that is on every pharmacist's shelf). It is known that lead goes to the bones and that the turnover rate of bone is very slow. That means that it would be best to remove lead continuously and slowly over time, as the lead is slowly released from bone. Flooding the body with EDTA once in a while might get a little tiny bit, but it doesn't make much sense if the objective is to remove the body burden of lead. Many anecdotal reports from mercury poisoned adults say that they get worse with EDTA IVs. The reports sometimes say things like 'I almost died'. So __why__ are doctors giving kids (Na or Ca, push or drip) EDTA IVs?? EDTA IVs have been useful to treat people who have blocked arteries. These people are often looking at the risk of sudden death if they don't do something to unblock the arteries. People in that situation who have already lived most of their lives would be prepared to take more risk. Kids are just beginning their lives and risks must be minimized for them, imho. J Dr. Buttar's office said in > this case they did a 'push' and not > > a 'drip'. ... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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