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Hi Jane

I'm sorry to hear about your son's troubles. A change in diet can

really do a number on people. Is it possible that he doesn't tolerate

some of the more common GFCF ingredients, like rice? Have you

introduced other foods that are new to your son? Headaches are often

related to food intolerance issues for us.

Do you have him on enzymes at all? We saw more improvement after we

put our son back on wheat and dairy, once we had enzymes in place for

a while. GFCF is actually not the best choice for may kids.

If you want a different take on special diets, you could look in the

file section of this group. There's a file by Andy Cutler that can be

helpful with sorting out if GFCF is the best choice for you, or if

other diets might be more appropriate. The formatting makes it hard

to read, but you could paste it onto another page.

How much DHA are you giving?

take care

René

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> Now we are GF/CF again in preparation for chelation. We

> started the diet last Thursday and every single day since my son has

> been complaining about massive headaches. He is actually in tears

> about it, and it is really getting to me. Could this be part of the

> initial reaction to getting the gluten and casein out of his body?

> What can I do for him - I am worried about possible casein in the

> chewable motrin.

>

> Also, is there such a thing as too much DHA?

>

> Jane

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Hi Jane

I see you've been directed to the group. That's

good. If you want more excellent enzyme info, try

www.enzymestuff.com . It's put together by the moderator of the

enzymes group, and has information about getting started with enzymes

(go slow!) and what you might expect when you start. For what it's

worth, we've had much more success with Houston enzymes than

Kirkmans. This seems quite common, though there are always

exceptions.

One thing that comes to mind from what you've written is that there

may be issues with food additives. If you're not yet doing so, I'd

encourage you to think about using organic products. Headaches can

also be a common reaction to MSG, which now goes under dozens of

different names, sometimes including harmless-sounding things

like " natural flavoring " . Message # 169571 would be a good start if

you want to research the MSG angle further. If this is all stuff you

already know and look out for, I apologize :-).

I give my son about the same amount of DHA as you, plus a bunch of

EPA, so that doesn't seem unreasonable. However just to be on the

safe side, you might want to post a seperate question about the DHA.

Others know more than I do about efa's, and they can affect brain

function in all sorts of ways.

take care

René

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> He is extremely restricted in the foods that he eats, so we are

stuck with different hot dogs (turkey and chicken), GF/CF chicken

nuggets and special french fries. He has been eating all of that

before. One culpit that I found was the ketchup. My son consumes

massive amounts of ketchup (even dipping green peas in it, yuk!). Now

we are using the gluten-free ketchup.

> > I am still waiting for all the supplements to get here and

enzymes will definitely be a must.

> I am supposed to give him 700mg DHA, but I only had 500mg

capsules so I am giving him one in the morning and one at night.

Could that be too much and causing the headaches?

> Jane

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> Yes, i joined the group and will be asking loads of questions soon,

lol.

Great!

> I was so not ready for this kind of reaction. It still blows me

away that food can be such a culpit.

Amazing, isn't it?

> I am supposed to start the B12 tomorrow. Do you think I should

wait until I get this diet stuff under control? I really want to be

able to chart reactions to each thing introduced, but on the other

hand I don't want to wait if it can benefit him now.

I would wait until you get this straightened out. B12 can also cause

mischief, and you need to know what's what.

> Ugh, this is all so confusing to me.

It is, isn't it? Let us know how things go.

Take care

René

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> This past summer I made the mistake of taking my son off the GF/CF

> diet. I regret it every single day, but that is something I have to

> deal with. Now we are GF/CF again in preparation for chelation. We

> started the diet last Thursday and every single day since my son has

> been complaining about massive headaches.

It can be adjustment from the food removals, new foods he is now

eating that cause headaches for him [nitrates and MSG do this for me],

yeast in his head [nasty stuff!] or several other things.

> What can I do for him - I am worried about possible casein in the

> chewable motrin.

Give enzymes, that can help with possible food issues. I use HNI

enzymes with great success, altho I still need to avoid nitrates and MSG

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

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>>One culpit that I found was the ketchup. My son consumes massive

amounts of ketchup (even dipping green peas in it, yuk!). Now we are

using the gluten-free ketchup.

This caused headaches and other problems for me until I ate it with

No-Fenol enzyme

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

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> I am supposed to start the B12 tomorrow. Do you think I should

wait until I get this diet stuff under control?

Yes, best to wait. B12 caused problems for my kids until I learned

they needed a lower dose and always with folic acid. Plus, it did

increase yeast for my kids. You only want to have to figure out one

thing at a time.

Dana

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> There's a file by Andy Cutler that can be

> helpful with sorting out if GFCF is the best choice for you, or if

> other diets might be more appropriate. The formatting makes it

hard

> to read, but you could paste it onto another page.

>

> How much DHA are you giving?

>

> take care

> René

René -- just wanted to mention that the formatting problem

with that file has been fixed.

good wishes,

Moria

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

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> Thank you Dana. how much folic acid is recommended and is there a

special brand I can go with?

I gave 800mcg-1600mcg with the mB12. I have recently discovered that

giving LOTS MORE folic acid than that [they are now fully B12 loaded,

so I no longer give that] causes LOTS of language, moreso than the B12

caused!

> Today there has been no headache so I think the worst is over. It

sure was a horrible 3 days!

Glad the headache is gone!

Dana

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