Re: Virastop protocol? & others

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> We started a Virastop protocol a few days ago and have a few

questions. We

> did 1 capsule x per day for 2 days, then moved up to 2 capsules 3x

per day

> yesterday. No reaction at all.

> Today I moved to 3 capsules 3x per day, and he is MISERABLE- has

been crying

> & sleeping on & off for the last couple of hours & says his throat

hurts. I

> don't think he has EVER before put HIMSELF down for a nap. I'm

assuming

> maybe I went up too fast? Should I cut back to 2 or even 1 capsule

3x per

> day? Or is this just something to work through, holding at the 3-

capsule

> level(healing regression)? And I assume I would certainly not move

up again

> until all this sickness has passed?

> In any case, in your experience, how long does the most miserable

part of it

> last?

> Also, is activated charcoal only used for yeast die-off, or is it

helpful

> with viral " die-off " as well?

> Thanks so much,

>

,

I'm no expert but I think I'd hold at the current dose untill it

passes. Make sure your giving lots of C, water, and rest. I'm

sorry I don't know about the charcoal.

[Guest guest]

First I'll say that would definitely be the expert on this

subject, but I'll offer my 2 cents. It does seem that you increased

the dose a bit too fast. Going from 1 per day to six per day then 9

the next day would have been WAY to fast for my child who is perhaps

more sensitive than yours. It probably takes a day or two to notice

the full effect of each increase. However, it does seem to have

stirred up some things for your child so I don't believe you would

want to decrease at this point. Definitely don't increase, but I

would continue at that dose to help him work thru whatever viruses

have been awakened. After he gets better at that dose, then you

could begin the stair step increases again, maybe a bit more

conservatively, for comforts sake. I don't know about using

charcoal for viral systems. Perhaps someone else could offer more

help on that.

Take care,

Sherea

>

> We started a Virastop protocol a few days ago and have a few

questions. We

> did 1 capsule x per day for 2 days, then moved up to 2 capsules 3x

per day

> yesterday. No reaction at all.

> Today I moved to 3 capsules 3x per day, and he is MISERABLE- has

been crying

> & sleeping on & off for the last couple of hours & says his throat

hurts. I

> don't think he has EVER before put HIMSELF down for a nap. I'm

assuming

> maybe I went up too fast? Should I cut back to 2 or even 1 capsule

3x per

> day? Or is this just something to work through, holding at the 3-

capsule

> level(healing regression)? And I assume I would certainly not move

up again

> until all this sickness has passed?

> In any case, in your experience, how long does the most miserable

part of it

> last?

> Also, is activated charcoal only used for yeast die-off, or is it

helpful

> with viral " die-off " as well?

> Thanks so much,

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, Sherea's two cents are worth an entire dime! LOL

You've apparently hit that 'therapeutic' dose at the 9 capsules per

day. Drop back to 2 capsules 3 times a day for 2 days (or until he

seems to feel better), then increase again and watch for a stair-step

effect. Something this stair-step patterns comes up and sometimes it

doesn't. You *could* hold at this 9 caps per day, and it will pass,

but comfort level is important too.

Don't feel something was amiss by dosing up too quickly. There isn't

a way to tell if he would have responded to 2 capsules or 15 capsules

before you saw results, so at least you know where the ballpark is

for you son, and you can use that as a reference point.

The drowsiness, or going to sleep, is very characteristic of this

anti-viral program...and doesn't appear with other supplements, anti-

fungals, or antibiotics (usually).

I couldn't find anything on activated charcoal and virus control. It

was listed under the anti-viral med Valtrex as a means to soak up

excess medication. Lots of vitamin C and epsom salt baths may work

better...and let him sleep.

.

[Guest guest]

[this reply is cross-posted for others interested in this question]

You've apparently hit that 'therapeutic' dose at the 9 capsules per

day. Drop back to 2 capsules 3 times a day for 2 days (or until he

seems to feel better), then increase again and watch for a stair-step

effect. Something this stair-step patterns comes up and sometimes it

doesn't. You *could* hold at this 9 caps per day, and it will pass,

but comfort level is important too.

Don't feel something was amiss by dosing up too quickly. There isn't

a way to tell if he would have responded to 2 capsules or 15 capsules

before you saw results, so at least you know where the ballpark is

for you son, and you can use that as a reference point.

The drowsiness, or going to sleep, is very characteristic of this

anti-viral program...and doesn't appear with other supplements, anti-

fungals, or antibiotics (usually).

I couldn't find anything on activated charcoal and virus control. It

was listed under the anti-viral med Valtrex as a means to soak up

excess medication. Lots of vitamin C and epsom salt baths may work

better...and let him sleep.

.

[Guest guest]

,

I am late to answer here, but when I was using Virastop on myself I

didn't feel very well at nine caps a day. I had a very sore throat

and could hardly swallow along with other flu-like symptoms. I

would cut back to some dose more comfortable for your son, and,

although I don't like to use stuff like this, maybe dye free

motrin. Maybe belladonna would help if you happen to have it. I

ended up having to take some pain relief just to get through my

days. Otherwise I couldn't look after the kids. If I am

remembering correctly, my pain lasted at least three days until I

stopped the VS because my son was having such a rough time I had to

make him the priority.

IME, I went up too fast with my son. Some kids do seem to need

quite a bit, but I think it is impossible to say which kids those

will be. IMO, it is better to go up very slowly. Having said that,

I went up slowly for myself. I felt nothing, and then all of a

sudden, I felt what I described above. Viral protocols are

difficult to control completely.

I hope he's feeling better soon.

Anita

>

> We started a Virastop protocol a few days ago and have a few

questions. We

> did 1 capsule x per day for 2 days, then moved up to 2 capsules 3x

per day

> yesterday. No reaction at all.

> Today I moved to 3 capsules 3x per day, and he is MISERABLE- has

been crying

> & sleeping on & off for the last couple of hours & says his throat

hurts. I

> don't think he has EVER before put HIMSELF down for a nap. I'm

assuming

> maybe I went up too fast? Should I cut back to 2 or even 1 capsule

3x per

> day? Or is this just something to work through, holding at the 3-

capsule

> level(healing regression)? And I assume I would certainly not move

up again

> until all this sickness has passed?

> In any case, in your experience, how long does the most miserable

part of it

> last?

> Also, is activated charcoal only used for yeast die-off, or is it

helpful

> with viral " die-off " as well?

> Thanks so much,

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> Today I moved to 3 capsules 3x per day, and he is MISERABLE- has

been crying

> & sleeping on & off for the last couple of hours & says his throat

hurts. I

> don't think he has EVER before put HIMSELF down for a nap. I'm assuming

> maybe I went up too fast? Should I cut back to 2 or even 1 capsule

3x per

> day?

Go back to 2 caps 3x per day. Then when you decide to increase it,

keep two of the doses at 2 caps, and just increase one dose to 3 caps.

> In any case, in your experience, how long does the most miserable

part of it

> last?

Depends on a lot of factors. Sometimes one day, sometimes several days.

> Also, is activated charcoal only used for yeast die-off, or is it

helpful

> with viral " die-off " as well?

In my family, viral " die off " causes yeast, so I increase the yeast

protocol to take care of it.

Dana

[Guest guest]

& others who were kind enough to respond,

Well, strangely enough, even though Jordan ran fever last night, he felt

much better, and today it's as though nothing happened- and I saw one reason

why- there was crusty stuff around his outer ear, coming from inside- fluid

had obviously trickled out sometime last night. He had said his ear hurt

badly, and obviously the pressure buildup was killing him. I have never seen

this kind of fluid release with an ear infection before, though...did anyone

else experience such a thing with Virastop? I even wondered if the eardrum

may have burst- but am assuming we'd still have pain if that were the case?

Also, I plan to hang tight at 3 capsules 3x per day for a few days. Then

what? Do we need to go up any more, or try going down slowly after three

weeks at 9 capsules? I'm a little confused about what we're looking for. In

your experience, is one bout of sickness all we'll see, or should we expect

more as we continue? I know rashes might appear.

Thanks!

Message: 17

Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:18:14 -0000

From: " jornmatt " <defelice@...>

Subject: Re: Virastop protocol? & others

Yes, Sherea's two cents are worth an entire dime! LOL

You've apparently hit that 'therapeutic' dose at the 9 capsules per

day. Drop back to 2 capsules 3 times a day for 2 days (or until he

seems to feel better), then increase again and watch for a stair-step

effect. Something this stair-step patterns comes up and sometimes it

doesn't. You *could* hold at this 9 caps per day, and it will pass,

but comfort level is important too.

Don't feel something was amiss by dosing up too quickly. There isn't

a way to tell if he would have responded to 2 capsules or 15 capsules

before you saw results, so at least you know where the ballpark is

for you son, and you can use that as a reference point.

The drowsiness, or going to sleep, is very characteristic of this

anti-viral program...and doesn't appear with other supplements, anti-

fungals, or antibiotics (usually).

I couldn't find anything on activated charcoal and virus control. It

was listed under the anti-viral med Valtrex as a means to soak up

excess medication. Lots of vitamin C and epsom salt baths may work

better...and let him sleep.

.

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[Guest guest]

,

All 3 of us (both boys & I) had " stopped up " ears w/ the VS. 2 of us

still have stopped up ears. They hurt a lot at 1st, not so much now,

but I still can't hear very well from that side. I did have a small

amount of discharge, & it seems like 1 of the boys did too.

We all 3 got sick for several weeks. I was sick (very bad for a couple)

for about 7 wks. This is my 1st week feeling better. (Got some

antibiotics, but don't know if that had anything to do w/ getting

better) I am still feeling tired & unmotivated.

> Re: Virastop protocol? & others

>

>Yes, Sherea's two cents are worth an entire dime! LOL

>

>You've apparently hit that 'therapeutic' dose at the 9 capsules per

>day. Drop back to 2 capsules 3 times a day for 2 days (or until he

>seems to feel better), then increase again and watch for a stair-step

>effect. Something this stair-step patterns comes up and sometimes it

>doesn't. You *could* hold at this 9 caps per day, and it will pass,

>but comfort level is important too.

>

>Don't feel something was amiss by dosing up too quickly. There isn't

>a way to tell if he would have responded to 2 capsules or 15 capsules

>before you saw results, so at least you know where the ballpark is

>for you son, and you can use that as a reference point.

>

>The drowsiness, or going to sleep, is very characteristic of this

>anti-viral program...and doesn't appear with other

>supplements, anti- fungals, or antibiotics (usually).

>

>I couldn't find anything on activated charcoal and virus control. It

>was listed under the anti-viral med Valtrex as a means to soak up

>excess medication. Lots of vitamin C and epsom salt baths may work

>better...and let him sleep.

>

>.

>

>

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

My dh and dd have both had an ear drum break. For both of them the

ear pain came on suddenly and severly but when it broke it didn't

hurt anymore. (neither were taking VS when this happened)

> & others who were kind enough to respond,

> Well, strangely enough, even though Jordan ran fever last night,

he felt

> much better, and today it's as though nothing happened- and I saw

one reason

> why- there was crusty stuff around his outer ear, coming from

inside- fluid

> had obviously trickled out sometime last night. He had said his

ear hurt

> badly, and obviously the pressure buildup was killing him. I have

never seen

> this kind of fluid release with an ear infection before,

though...did anyone

> else experience such a thing with Virastop? I even wondered if the

eardrum

> may have burst- but am assuming we'd still have pain if that were

the case?

> Also, I plan to hang tight at 3 capsules 3x per day for a few

days. Then

> what? Do we need to go up any more, or try going down slowly after

three

> weeks at 9 capsules? I'm a little confused about what we're

looking for. In

> your experience, is one bout of sickness all we'll see, or should

we expect

> more as we continue? I know rashes might appear.

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

>>He had said his ear hurt

> badly, and obviously the pressure buildup was killing him. I have

never seen

> this kind of fluid release with an ear infection before,

though...did anyone

> else experience such a thing with Virastop?

Viral " die off " caused yeast in the ears for two of my kids. One woke

up crying in the night, the other cried miserably during the day and

said her ears really hurt. I gave GSE to both kids, and their ears

were better within about 45 minutes.

> your experience, is one bout of sickness all we'll see, or should we

expect

> more as we continue?

For my kids, it is cyclical. They will have cold/flu symptoms,

sometimes vomiting, then nothing for a while. Then maybe a rash along

with sneezing, then nothing. Etc.

Dana