Why do they sell Calcium, Mag and Zine Together?

[Guest guest]

Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if you are

suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and minerals due to

absorption problems?

[Guest guest]

>

> Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if you are

> suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and minerals due to

> absorption problems?

>

People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can down one?

For some who do not have the discipline to take the supplements

correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

[Guest guest]

Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my fuzzy brain to

figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing program,

probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic enzyme - virastop,

and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and minerals (plus

my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take some one hour

before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but seperate from

everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these everytime I eat. Some

are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I don't forget night-

time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a few times a day.

And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out. Eiyiyi-yi-yi! It's

enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even started the chelation

yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

But onward I press!

> >

> > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if you are

> > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and minerals due

to

> > absorption problems?

> >

> People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can down one?

> For some who do not have the discipline to take the supplements

> correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

>

[Guest guest]

That is the other reason!! I hear you... I have brain fog really

bad. The past year it has gotten worse. I have lists written down

and tapped to the cabinets. Which kid gets which supplement and when!

Not to mention my own, which I often forget until I start getting

those morbid thoughts and then I remember...hey, I forgot to take my

pills.

But for the general public...the combo pill is for people who do not

know that calcium should be taken separately, or don't care, or find

one pill easy. Better poorly absorbed calcium that none I guess!

>

> Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

>

> I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my fuzzy

brain to

> figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing program,

> probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic enzyme -

virastop,

> and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and minerals

(plus

> my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

>

> Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take some one hour

> before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but seperate

from

> everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these everytime I eat.

Some

> are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I don't forget

night-

> time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a few times a

day.

> And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out. Eiyiyi-yi-yi!

It's

> enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even started the

chelation

> yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

>

> But onward I press!

> > >

> > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if you

are

> > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and minerals

due

> to

> > > absorption problems?

> > >

> > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can down

one?

> > For some who do not have the discipline to take the supplements

> > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good points Jan! You know - I also think people are not educated. I

hear a lot of controvery about it and am just now reading up on why

it's best to take them seperate. I got two bottles of each for my bed

time dresser. I also have virastop I have to take at night, thyriod

meds, charcoal (to cleanse while sleeping) and my liver cleanse.

So I can't do all of these every night - I try to leave one hour

between them, but I do hit 3/4 of them a night. I try to do the

charcoal last so that other stuff has a chance to absort. I'm always

so paranoid the charcoal will take out the good stuff I've

painstakingly tried to space out in appropriate times. Correct

supplementing is tough.

I just read some indepth research from Kirkman's labs and they

suggest that the probiotics are actually better absorbed taken with

food! This will help me a lot since I take enzymes then too and my

multi with food once a day. I do the other water soluable

supplements a few times a day and the fat sol. once (just some E). I

think a lot of people try to take their pro-biotics seperately too

which is hard since mine are in the fridge. I generally remember then

once I have to get something to eat.

>

> That is the other reason!! I hear you... I have brain fog really

> bad. The past year it has gotten worse. I have lists written down

> and tapped to the cabinets. Which kid gets which supplement and

when!

> Not to mention my own, which I often forget until I start getting

> those morbid thoughts and then I remember...hey, I forgot to take

my

> pills.

>

> But for the general public...the combo pill is for people who do

not

> know that calcium should be taken separately, or don't care, or

find

> one pill easy. Better poorly absorbed calcium that none I guess!

>

>

> >

> > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> >

> > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my fuzzy

> brain to

> > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing program,

> > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic enzyme -

> virastop,

> > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and minerals

> (plus

> > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> >

> > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take some one

hour

> > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but seperate

> from

> > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these everytime I

eat.

> Some

> > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I don't forget

> night-

> > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a few times

a

> day.

> > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out. Eiyiyi-yi-yi!

> It's

> > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even started the

> chelation

> > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> >

> > But onward I press!

> > > >

> > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if you

> are

> > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and minerals

> due

> > to

> > > > absorption problems?

> > > >

> > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can down

> one?

> > > For some who do not have the discipline to take the supplements

> > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm eager to see how my DDI test goes in about 6 months after

supplementing seperately and chelating. My calcium, Mag and Zinc

were low so it will be interesting to see how they do after changing

this.

I've also added an adrenal supplement the last week and I seem to be

feeling a little better - just less exhausted somehow deep inside.

Wish I'd have known that a little sooner.

I never knew that they weren't suppose to be taken together either

since they are sold together. Presumably, thought I, they help each

other with absorption. Apparently not.

> > >

> > > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> > >

> > > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my fuzzy

> > brain to

> > > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing

program,

> > > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic enzyme -

> > virastop,

> > > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and

minerals

> > (plus

> > > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> > >

> > > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take some one

> hour

> > > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but seperate

> > from

> > > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these everytime I

> eat.

> > Some

> > > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I don't

forget

> > night-

> > > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a few

times

> a

> > day.

> > > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out. Eiyiyi-yi-

yi!

> > It's

> > > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even started the

> > chelation

> > > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> > >

> > > But onward I press!

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if

you

> > are

> > > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and

minerals

> > due

> > > to

> > > > > absorption problems?

> > > > >

> > > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can

down

> > one?

> > > > For some who do not have the discipline to take the

supplements

> > > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Take comfort that you can have them in places to remind yourself. I

have to lock everything in the cabinet. Except the probiotics which

are in the butter door in the fridge (my son never goes in there).

Thus the lists taped where I can see them. It is mid boggling though.

I cannot wait to get my filling out in May. My brain fog has been

really bad lately. Even the usual stuff isn't helping. Keep

reading..and sharing infor. I will do the same. And we can all help

each other. Map out a schedule on paper...

Breakfast: list supplements

Mid Am: list supplements

Lunch: etc.

Mid PM:etc

Dinner:etc

Before Bed:etc.

This has helped me a bit. I just check the list everytime I have to

prep a meal or snack as this is the schedule my kids eat on anyway.

Hang in there!!

> > >

> > > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> > >

> > > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my fuzzy

> > brain to

> > > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing

program,

> > > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic enzyme -

> > virastop,

> > > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and

minerals

> > (plus

> > > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> > >

> > > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take some one

> hour

> > > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but

seperate

> > from

> > > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these everytime I

> eat.

> > Some

> > > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I don't

forget

> > night-

> > > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a few

times

> a

> > day.

> > > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out. Eiyiyi-yi-

yi!

> > It's

> > > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even started the

> > chelation

> > > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> > >

> > > But onward I press!

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if

you

> > are

> > > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and

minerals

> > due

> > > to

> > > > > absorption problems?

> > > > >

> > > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can

down

> > one?

> > > > For some who do not have the discipline to take the

supplements

> > > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am sure your doctor meant well. Probably figured it would be

easier to give them at the same time. But let us know if you find

out that this interfers with zinc absorption. ---

In , Selavka

<stacylynncollins@...> wrote:

>

> My doctor is having my son take zinc, calcium and mag - the

calcium is not with the calcium or mag, but she never told me not to

take them together. Now I'm concerned. My son's copper is high and

perhaps that is because zinc is not being absorbed by the mag and

calcium. I'll have to look into this.

>

> yur_a_daisy <RoseGvr@...> wrote:

> Good points Jan! You know - I also think people are not

educated. I

> hear a lot of controvery about it and am just now reading up on

why

> it's best to take them seperate. I got two bottles of each for my

bed

> time dresser. I also have virastop I have to take at night,

thyriod

> meds, charcoal (to cleanse while sleeping) and my liver cleanse.

>

> So I can't do all of these every night - I try to leave one hour

> between them, but I do hit 3/4 of them a night. I try to do the

> charcoal last so that other stuff has a chance to absort. I'm

always

> so paranoid the charcoal will take out the good stuff I've

> painstakingly tried to space out in appropriate times. Correct

> supplementing is tough.

>

> I just read some indepth research from Kirkman's labs and they

> suggest that the probiotics are actually better absorbed taken

with

> food! This will help me a lot since I take enzymes then too and my

> multi with food once a day. I do the other water soluable

> supplements a few times a day and the fat sol. once (just some

E). I

> think a lot of people try to take their pro-biotics seperately too

> which is hard since mine are in the fridge. I generally remember

then

> once I have to get something to eat.

> >

> > That is the other reason!! I hear you... I have brain fog

really

> > bad. The past year it has gotten worse. I have lists written

down

> > and tapped to the cabinets. Which kid gets which supplement and

> when!

> > Not to mention my own, which I often forget until I start

getting

> > those morbid thoughts and then I remember...hey, I forgot to

take

> my

> > pills.

> >

> > But for the general public...the combo pill is for people who do

> not

> > know that calcium should be taken separately, or don't care, or

> find

> > one pill easy. Better poorly absorbed calcium that none I guess!

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> > >

> > > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my fuzzy

> > brain to

> > > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing

program,

> > > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic enzyme -

> > virastop,

> > > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and

minerals

> > (plus

> > > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> > >

> > > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take some one

> hour

> > > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but

seperate

> > from

> > > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these everytime I

> eat.

> > Some

> > > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I don't

forget

> > night-

> > > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a few

times

> a

> > day.

> > > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out. Eiyiyi-yi-

yi!

> > It's

> > > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even started the

> > chelation

> > > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> > >

> > > But onward I press!

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if

you

> > are

> > > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and

minerals

> > due

> > > to

> > > > > absorption problems?

> > > > >

> > > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can

down

> > one?

> > > > For some who do not have the discipline to take the

supplements

> > > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Could he be getting exposed to extra copper somewhere? Tap water

with copper plumbing can be a source. If not, it was just a thought.

> > > >

> > > > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> > > >

> > > > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my

fuzzy

> > > brain to

> > > > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing

> program,

> > > > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic enzyme -

> > > virastop,

> > > > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and

> minerals

> > > (plus

> > > > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> > > >

> > > > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take some

one

> > hour

> > > > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but

> seperate

> > > from

> > > > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these everytime

I

> > eat.

> > > Some

> > > > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I don't

> forget

> > > night-

> > > > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a few

> times

> > a

> > > day.

> > > > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out. Eiyiyi-yi-

> yi!

> > > It's

> > > > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even started

the

> > > chelation

> > > > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> > > >

> > > > But onward I press!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc together if

> you

> > > are

> > > > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and

> minerals

> > > due

> > > > to

> > > > > > absorption problems?

> > > > > >

> > > > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they can

> down

> > > one?

> > > > > For some who do not have the discipline to take the

> supplements

> > > > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

-While not an expert, copper is a metal and I suppose could be

pulled while chelating. Are the high levels in his hair test or

other test?

-- In , Selavka

<stacylynncollins@...> wrote:

>

> He doesn't drink water and when we cook, we use bottled water.

Would chelating with DMSA pull copper along with other metals or is

copper not considered a metal?

>

> Jan <queenvavee@...> wrote: Could he be getting exposed to

extra copper somewhere? Tap water

> with copper plumbing can be a source. If not, it was just a

thought.

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with my

> fuzzy

> > > > brain to

> > > > > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon cleansing

> > program,

> > > > > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic

enzyme -

>

> > > > virastop,

> > > > > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins and

> > minerals

> > > > (plus

> > > > > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> > > > >

> > > > > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take

some

> one

> > > hour

> > > > > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but

> > seperate

> > > > from

> > > > > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these

everytime

> I

> > > eat.

> > > > Some

> > > > > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I

don't

> > forget

> > > > night-

> > > > > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a

few

> > times

> > > a

> > > > day.

> > > > > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out.

Eiyiyi-yi-

> > yi!

> > > > It's

> > > > > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even

started

> the

> > > > chelation

> > > > > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> > > > >

> > > > > But onward I press!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc

together if

> > you

> > > > are

> > > > > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins and

> > minerals

> > > > due

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > absorption problems?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if they

can

> > down

> > > > one?

> > > > > > For some who do not have the discipline to take the

> > supplements

> > > > > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > =======================================================

> > >

[Guest guest]

Andy says DMSA does not chelate copper:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154296.html

Anne

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with

my

> > fuzzy

> > > > > brain to

> > > > > > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon

cleansing

> > > program,

> > > > > > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic

> enzyme -

> >

> > > > > virastop,

> > > > > > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins

and

> > > minerals

> > > > > (plus

> > > > > > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take

> some

> > one

> > > > hour

> > > > > > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day but

> > > seperate

> > > > > from

> > > > > > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these

> everytime

> > I

> > > > eat.

> > > > > Some

> > > > > > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I

> don't

> > > forget

> > > > > night-

> > > > > > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them a

> few

> > > times

> > > > a

> > > > > day.

> > > > > > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out.

> Eiyiyi-yi-

> > > yi!

> > > > > It's

> > > > > > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even

> started

> > the

> > > > > chelation

> > > > > > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But onward I press!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc

> together if

> > > you

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins

and

> > > minerals

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > absorption problems?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if

they

> can

> > > down

> > > > > one?

> > > > > > > For some who do not have the discipline to take the

> > > supplements

> > > > > > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =======================================================

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Ok, well we got that part out..its not the DMSA. What else could be

causing high copper?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well Jan, that would make sense (people are lazy).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't know about you but it's hard on someone with

> my

> > > fuzzy

> > > > > > brain to

> > > > > > > figure out how to take my thyroid meds, colon

> cleansing

> > > > program,

> > > > > > > probiotics, fiber, enzymes, yeast cleanses, systemic

> > enzyme -

> > >

> > > > > > virastop,

> > > > > > > and all the fat soluable and water soluable vitamins

> and

> > > > minerals

> > > > > > (plus

> > > > > > > my milk thistle and green tea supplement).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lazy has nothing to do with it - I'm suppose to take

> > some

> > > one

> > > > > hour

> > > > > > > before I eat or 2 hours after, this one once a day

but

> > > > seperate

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > everything else, cleanses twice a day, 2 of these

> > everytime

> > > I

> > > > > eat.

> > > > > > Some

> > > > > > > are in the fridge upstairs, some by my bedside (so I

> > don't

> > > > forget

> > > > > > night-

> > > > > > > time doses) and some in my office so I can take them

a

> > few

> > > > times

> > > > > a

> > > > > > day.

> > > > > > > And some in my purse so I have them if I eat out.

> > Eiyiyi-yi-

> > > > yi!

> > > > > > It's

> > > > > > > enough to drive a person nuts. And I haven't even

> > started

> > > the

> > > > > > chelation

> > > > > > > yet - nor is my memory very sharp.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But onward I press!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why do they sell calcium, magnesium and zinc

> > together if

> > > > you

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > suppose to take calcium away from other vitamins

> and

> > > > minerals

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > absorption problems?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > People are lazy. Why bother taking three pills if

> they

> > can

> > > > down

> > > > > > one?

> > > > > > > > For some who do not have the discipline to take

the

> > > > supplements

> > > > > > > > correctly, some mixed together is better than none.

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> Ok, well we got that part out..its not the DMSA. What else could be

> causing high copper?

Foods he eats that are high copper?

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

Dana