Re: Does rotating non Rx antifungals make yeast resistant?

March 27, 2006

In a message dated 27/03/2006 14:29:23 GMT Daylight Time, ams1088@...

writes:

was under the impression that by rotating non Rx antifungals (herbal

and such), you would prevent the yeast from becoming resistant to any

one in particular.....but I have read that it may be just the

opposite?

>>>I THINK what Andy meant was don't keep chnaging things every 3 days on

the killer front. Its not the OTYC themselves its the way they are being used

in rotation for very short periods which are not ling enough to consitute a

'course' of that substance.

I think that is LOL

Mandi in UK

March 27, 2006

Sheryl,

No one knows the answer to this for sure. Andy has pointed out that

in a lab situation if you want to build a resistant strain of

something, you rotate the anti-somethings. Now, a body is not a lab

per se, but his comments make perfect sense to me. Think about

antibiotics: if you don't follow through with them to the end and

kill the bacteria, the bacteria can become resistant.

It is the accepted wisdom in the ASD community that rotating the

antifungals is the best method. However, there are lots of people in

the ASD community who have been fighting yeast for years and years who

have been following this exact method with great diligence. There are

*many* factors here to consider, and I of course couldn't say for sure

that rotating antifungals has been part of the problem rather than a

solution for these people, but I for one think it is a good idea to at

least consider another option. One that might be more effective,

easier, and less expensive.

I am also of the opinion that certain antifungal agents like Candex,

which works differently than something like GSE, would make it

difficult for the yeast to build resistance. Candex is an enzyme

which digests the yeast and I believe that it is hard to build

resistance to being digested. That is just my opinion and you should

keep in mind that I am an ignoramus when it comes to anything

scientific. But, believing such, I try to rely almost exclusively on

Candex and lots of probiotics. Yeast cannot become resistant to

probiotics. They are not antifungals. They are just the seeds you're

using to plant more of the good bacteria back into the body.

I hope this might help,

Anita

>

> I was under the impression that by rotating non Rx antifungals

(herbal

> and such), you would prevent the yeast from becoming resistant to

any

> one in particular.....but I have read that it may be just the

> opposite? Can someone please explain if you should stick to a few

> herbal antifungals and use them together for a long time, or rotate

> several each week?

>

> Thanks,

> Sheryl

>

March 27, 2006

-Thanks Anita,

Your explanation regarding bacteria does make sense to me, but

usually when given antibiotics, you are told to take them for about

10 days. So, with regards to yeast, how long would you think it

necessary to stick with a certain antifungal before changing? One

week, two weeks? Also, are you suggesting that after a certain

amount of time with a specific antifungal, you give NOTHING instead

of changing to a different antifungal? The concept of using nothing

is a bit scary to me.....

Sheryl

-- In , " Anita Kugelstadt "

<mysuperteach@...> wrote:

>

> Sheryl,

>

> No one knows the answer to this for sure. Andy has pointed out

that

> in a lab situation if you want to build a resistant strain of

> something, you rotate the anti-somethings. Now, a body is not a

lab

> per se, but his comments make perfect sense to me. Think about

> antibiotics: if you don't follow through with them to the end and

> kill the bacteria, the bacteria can become resistant.

>

> It is the accepted wisdom in the ASD community that rotating the

> antifungals is the best method. However, there are lots of people

in

> the ASD community who have been fighting yeast for years and years

who

> have been following this exact method with great diligence. There

are

> *many* factors here to consider, and I of course couldn't say for

sure

> that rotating antifungals has been part of the problem rather than

a

> solution for these people, but I for one think it is a good idea

to at

> least consider another option. One that might be more effective,

> easier, and less expensive.

>

> I am also of the opinion that certain antifungal agents like

Candex,

> which works differently than something like GSE, would make it

> difficult for the yeast to build resistance. Candex is an enzyme

> which digests the yeast and I believe that it is hard to build

> resistance to being digested. That is just my opinion and you

should

> keep in mind that I am an ignoramus when it comes to anything

> scientific. But, believing such, I try to rely almost exclusively

on

> Candex and lots of probiotics. Yeast cannot become resistant to

> probiotics. They are not antifungals. They are just the seeds

you're

> using to plant more of the good bacteria back into the body.

>

> I hope this might help,

> Anita

>

> >

> > I was under the impression that by rotating non Rx antifungals

> (herbal

> > and such), you would prevent the yeast from becoming resistant

to

> any

> > one in particular.....but I have read that it may be just the

> > opposite? Can someone please explain if you should stick to a

few

> > herbal antifungals and use them together for a long time, or

rotate

> > several each week?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sheryl

> >

>

March 27, 2006

Other than GSE, what are the other non rx antifungals?

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