Re: DMPS suppositories--any one using these??

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How old is your child? Do you think he or she will tolerate

suppositories? My son, just 4, wouldn't stand for it for one

minute. It would traumatize him, me, my husband, and probably even

our neighbors! Not to be too down on these, but I too would be

terribly upset if someone stuck something in my booty every 8 hours

(I presume you plan to dose according to DMPS' half-life?)! Have you

considered oral chelators?

Anne

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Your perpective does make sense, in the same way that we give a

suppository if the constipation gets out of control. We have had to

do that enough though that it is incredibly traumatic for my son, and

we avoid it (and constipation) like the plague. Sticking something

in my son's booty every 8 hours, or even every day or every other day

as might be prescribed on other protocols would be the absolute end

of the world at our house.

Anne

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I have no idea. Hopefully someone else knows. FWIW, my kid is a big-

time yeasty boy and he is doing pretty dang well on oral DMSA and

ALA. In fact, we just had an amazing 5 day round with no yeast to

speak of. I think it is because we had cleared out some viral stuff

and brought the yeast that came from that under control. I still

don't understand the viral/metal connection well, but it is there.

For sure. It took me a while to realize this, but yeast is nothing

to be afraid of, really. You just have to go after it. At least

that is my take on it these days.

Anne

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I haven't been following the thread that closely, pls forgive if I

repeat or suggest something you can't do. I read that there are now td

ibuprofen patches in some countries. I crushed a 200mg ibuprofen in

some olive oil the other day, put on a large bandage and put on

Allie's back where her shirt was, rolled her on her back while

sleeping so she wouldn't feel it. Within about 30 min her fever broke,

don't know if was a fluke or it worked. I don't mind her running fever

so long as it's not too high for too long. I do worry about seizures

triggering, so think all things in moderation, jmho.

Debi

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> For me, the suupository is my only way to bring my sons fever down

when it occurs. He will make himself throw up anything i give him from

a dropper and won't drink soymilk for a week if i try to hide it in there.

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Every situation is different. I would not use the suppositories that

the DAN! doc I saw insisted we use, but it might be all that works for

his son. I have a daughter and was repulsed at the thought of putting

something in her private area, but that was my situation. Every case

is different...

Debi

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Debi,

I agree that every situation is different...I keep talking about my

son being traumatized, but I think I have been too! I think I need

to set an appointment with :-)

Seriously, though, if it were me and the oral chelators were not an

option, I would certainly try TD first.

Anne

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> It took me a while to realize this, but yeast is nothing

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I completely agree with this. Once it becomes a recognizable thing

that responds to treatment, it's a bummer, but not much more. And

slowly slowly it will start to fade.

Nell

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One disadvantage would be that in general rectal drug absorption can

be very erratic and may be substantially different from absorption

following oral administration. This would not be a good thing for

chelation because maintaining steady blood levels of the drug is

critical to prevent redistribution of metals.

Less drug is absorbed transdermally as compared to oral, so it would

be difficult to say that one or the other has less side effects. The

side effects are related to the dose, and how would anyone know what

dose of transdermal to compare to what dose of oral?

J

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suppository vs. doing them orally? i have heard that TD-DMPS seems to

have less side effects than the oral DMPS.... does this hold true for

the suppository form of most chelators?

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