Re: What are the Prerequisites for Chelation? Is my son ready?

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> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

>

This may help:

http://www.mdheal.org/leakygut.htm

See section entitled " A PRACTICAL APPROACH " .

Nell posted a really good link earlier today:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/

[Guest guest]

>I read in " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be

healed first, then supplements, then chelation.

>

> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

IME it can't be until he's chelated. If his gut is is terrible shape

(chronic diarrhea, galloping yeast, impaction) it makes sense to get

it in better shape before starting-- but if I had waited for healing I

wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

Nell

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I presume he has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings.

S S

y.o. with ASD.  Having heard the success of chelation, I want to try it on my

son.  What are the prerequisites for chelation?  I read in " Children with

Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed first, then supplements, then

chelation.<BR>

   <BR>

  How will I know if my son's gut is healed?<BR>

   <BR>

  So far, I am doing the following:<BR>

   <BR>

  Methyl B-12<BR>

  Diet with Houston Enzymes<BR>

  probiotics<BR>

  Hyperbaric Oxygenation<BR>

  Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder  (contains C, E ...)<BR>

  fish oil <BR>

  Carnaware<BR>

   <BR>

  Is my son ready?  <BR>

   <BR>

  Veteran's of this group -- please help.<BR>

  

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Abid,

Does your son have digestive issues? Is he allergic to any foods? Does he

need a special diet? Do you notice any acid reflux problems? Issues with

diarrhea or constipation? Yeast? Acting as if he is in pain in his

stomach?

If not, then his gut may be in fairly good shape. Be prepared, however, to

battle yeast when you start the chelators. (We just give 6 drops of GSE

during chelating days and some Culturelle.)

Barb

[ ] What are the Prerequisites for Chelation? Is my

son ready?

>

> My son is 5 y.o. with ASD. Having heard the success of chelation, I want

> to try it on my son. What are the prerequisites for chelation? I read in

> " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed first, then

> supplements, then chelation.

>

> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

>

> So far, I am doing the following:

>

> Methyl B-12

> Diet with Houston Enzymes

> probiotics

> Hyperbaric Oxygenation

> Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder (contains C, E ...)

> fish oil

> Carnaware

>

> Is my son ready?

>

> Veteran's of this group -- please help.

>

>

>

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Oh, and of course, your son will need all the supplements once he starts

chelating to keep his mineral levels high and support his liver--supplements

like high ViT C, mineral complexes like mineral or Biomin II, Vit E, Milk

Thistle (for the liver) etc. Also make sure your fish oil is mercury-free!

Barb

[ ] What are the Prerequisites for Chelation? Is my

son ready?

>

> My son is 5 y.o. with ASD. Having heard the success of chelation, I want

> to try it on my son. What are the prerequisites for chelation? I read in

> " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed first, then

> supplements, then chelation.

>

> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

>

> So far, I am doing the following:

>

> Methyl B-12

> Diet with Houston Enzymes

> probiotics

> Hyperbaric Oxygenation

> Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder (contains C, E ...)

> fish oil

> Carnaware

>

> Is my son ready?

>

> Veteran's of this group -- please help.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello Barb,

To answer your questions:

My son has regular BMs. No indication of acid reflux or stomach pains.

According to an IgG test, he is sensitive to several foods -- all 1s -- except

for his favorite food -- eggs which he is a 4. We just stopped all eggs and

give him Houston enzymes with all his foods now.

However, I do believe he has yeast issues. I base this on his behaviors --

his spitting, mouthing and hyperactivity.

So I guess I need to fight this yeast. What is " GSE " & " culturelle " ?

Please advise how to fight the yeast.

Thanking you in advance.

Abid

jromkema <jromkema@...> wrote:

Oh, and of course, your son will need all the supplements once he starts

chelating to keep his mineral levels high and support his liver--supplements

like high ViT C, mineral complexes like mineral or Biomin II, Vit E, Milk

Thistle (for the liver) etc. Also make sure your fish oil is mercury-free!

Barb

[ ] What are the Prerequisites for Chelation? Is my

son ready?

>

> My son is 5 y.o. with ASD. Having heard the success of chelation, I want

> to try it on my son. What are the prerequisites for chelation? I read in

> " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed first, then

> supplements, then chelation.

>

> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

>

> So far, I am doing the following:

>

> Methyl B-12

> Diet with Houston Enzymes

> probiotics

> Hyperbaric Oxygenation

> Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder (contains C, E ...)

> fish oil

> Carnaware

>

> Is my son ready?

>

> Veteran's of this group -- please help.

>

>

>

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Grapefruit Seed Extract is a yeast-killer that comes in a bottle. (Notice

this is NOT Grapeseed Extract. I got them mixed up at first.) Put a number

of drops (my son uses 6-8 but he's an adult) in some water and have him

drink it. Our doc told us to use this throughout chelating and maybe a day

or two later.

Culturelle is a probiotic.

Another good yeast killer is oil of oregano which can be bought as an

essential oil (you mix one drop with regular oil and rub into the feet) or

capsules.

Barb

[ ] What are the Prerequisites for Chelation? Is my

> son ready?

>

>

>>

>> My son is 5 y.o. with ASD. Having heard the success of chelation, I want

>> to try it on my son. What are the prerequisites for chelation? I read

>> in

>> " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed first, then

>> supplements, then chelation.

>>

>> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

>>

>> So far, I am doing the following:

>>

>> Methyl B-12

>> Diet with Houston Enzymes

>> probiotics

>> Hyperbaric Oxygenation

>> Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder (contains C, E ...)

>> fish oil

>> Carnaware

>>

>> Is my son ready?

>>

>> Veteran's of this group -- please help.

>>

>>

>>

>> ---------------------------------

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> I read in " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed first,

then supplements, then chelation.

>

> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

From personal experience, works better if you start chelation and healing the

gut at the same time. Healing the gut is almost impossible without chelation. In

other words chelating makes it easier for the gut to heal.

> So far, I am doing the following:

>

> Methyl B-12

> Diet with Houston Enzymes

> probiotics

> Hyperbaric Oxygenation

> Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder (contains C, E ...)

> fish oil

> Carnaware

>

> Is my son ready?

I am not sure what's in that powder, but you need more minerals (if they are not

already included) like Zinc, Magnesium, Molybdenum (if it's needed), some kids

do well with Calcium but not all of them, Selenium, etc.

Also, you need some B vitamins. B12 is not enough.

Maybe Milk Thistle, Taurine, anything else that might help your son.

A lot of people complain about yeast overgrowth with chelation. It is not our

experience (we had more problem with bacteria rather than yeast), but in case

you want to be prepared for that... GSE seems to work nicely, other enzyme-based

supplements.

Good luck!

Valentina

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Valentina,

Here's what's in Dr. Nuebrander's powder:

One level scoop provides the following:

375mg Alpha-ketoglutaric acid

12,500 IU Beta-carotene

750mcg Biotin

50mg Choline

75mcg Selenium

150mcg Chromium

75mg Coenzyme Q-10

325mg Magnesium

4mg Manganese

200mcg Molybdenum

535mg L-Taurine

175mcg Vanadium

10mg Vitamin B-1

15mg Vitamin B-2

40mg Vitamin B-3

60mg Vitamin B-5

10mg Vitamin B-6

3mg Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate

750mg Vitamin C

200 IU Vitamin D-3

225 IU Vitamin E

50mg Zinc

What is milk thistle? Where can I find this?

Thank you.

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> I read in " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed

first, then supplements, then chelation.

>

> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

From personal experience, works better if you start chelation and healing the

gut at the same time. Healing the gut is almost impossible without chelation. In

other words chelating makes it easier for the gut to heal.

> So far, I am doing the following:

>

> Methyl B-12

> Diet with Houston Enzymes

> probiotics

> Hyperbaric Oxygenation

> Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder (contains C, E ...)

> fish oil

> Carnaware

>

> Is my son ready?

I am not sure what's in that powder, but you need more minerals (if they are not

already included) like Zinc, Magnesium, Molybdenum (if it's needed), some kids

do well with Calcium but not all of them, Selenium, etc.

Also, you need some B vitamins. B12 is not enough.

Maybe Milk Thistle, Taurine, anything else that might help your son.

A lot of people complain about yeast overgrowth with chelation. It is not our

experience (we had more problem with bacteria rather than yeast), but in case

you want to be prepared for that... GSE seems to work nicely, other enzyme-based

supplements.

Good luck!

Valentina

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[Guest guest]

Wow! I don't know... if your son is OK with that powder, then great!

I would never give such a product to my son though because for sure he would

react to some of those ingredients. If you just start with supplements, you

cannot possibly know which one is the culprit.

Also, consider that your son might benefit from higher doses of some of those

vitamins, but not from others.

I think it's OK for the beginning if your son tolerates this product well, but

maybe later you might like to see if he would benefit from higher doses of one

(or more) particular vitamin/supplement.

You can find milk thistle at any HFS. It helps the liver produce more bile. So

it's particularly important if you plan on chelating with ALA, but helpful for

liver in general.

Valentina

> Here's what's in Dr. Nuebrander's powder:

>

> One level scoop provides the following:

> 375mg Alpha-ketoglutaric acid

> 12,500 IU Beta-carotene

> 750mcg Biotin

> 50mg Choline

> 75mcg Selenium

> 150mcg Chromium

> 75mg Coenzyme Q-10

> 325mg Magnesium

> 4mg Manganese

> 200mcg Molybdenum

> 535mg L-Taurine

> 175mcg Vanadium

> 10mg Vitamin B-1

> 15mg Vitamin B-2

> 40mg Vitamin B-3

> 60mg Vitamin B-5

> 10mg Vitamin B-6

> 3mg Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate

> 750mg Vitamin C

> 200 IU Vitamin D-3

> 225 IU Vitamin E

> 50mg Zinc

>

> What is milk thistle? Where can I find this?

[Guest guest]

We also use a multivitamin/mineral powder from Life Extension Foundation. Works

out very well for us. I know it's not for every child, bu sometimes you get

lucky :-)

Re: [ ] What are the Prerequisites for Chelation? Is my

son ready?

Wow! I don't know... if your son is OK with that powder, then great!

I would never give such a product to my son though because for sure he would

react to some of those ingredients. If you just start with supplements, you

cannot possibly know which one is the culprit.

Also, consider that your son might benefit from higher doses of some of those

vitamins, but not from others.

I think it's OK for the beginning if your son tolerates this product well, but

maybe later you might like to see if he would benefit from higher doses of one

(or more) particular vitamin/supplement.

You can find milk thistle at any HFS. It helps the liver produce more bile. So

it's particularly important if you plan on chelating with ALA, but helpful for

liver in general.

Valentina

> Here's what's in Dr. Nuebrander's powder:

>

> One level scoop provides the following:

> 375mg Alpha-ketoglutaric acid

> 12,500 IU Beta-carotene

> 750mcg Biotin

> 50mg Choline

> 75mcg Selenium

> 150mcg Chromium

> 75mg Coenzyme Q-10

> 325mg Magnesium

> 4mg Manganese

> 200mcg Molybdenum

> 535mg L-Taurine

> 175mcg Vanadium

> 10mg Vitamin B-1

> 15mg Vitamin B-2

> 40mg Vitamin B-3

> 60mg Vitamin B-5

> 10mg Vitamin B-6

> 3mg Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate

> 750mg Vitamin C

> 200 IU Vitamin D-3

> 225 IU Vitamin E

> 50mg Zinc

>

> What is milk thistle? Where can I find this?

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[Guest guest]

Milk thistle is an essential herb for liver support. It helps your child's

liver handle the mercury more easily. Again, check your health food store

although I think I saw this at Wal-Mart recently.

Barb

Re: [ ] What are the Prerequisites for Chelation? Is

my son ready?

> Valentina,

>

> Here's what's in Dr. Nuebrander's powder:

>

> One level scoop provides the following:

> 375mg Alpha-ketoglutaric acid

> 12,500 IU Beta-carotene

> 750mcg Biotin

> 50mg Choline

> 75mcg Selenium

> 150mcg Chromium

> 75mg Coenzyme Q-10

> 325mg Magnesium

> 4mg Manganese

> 200mcg Molybdenum

> 535mg L-Taurine

> 175mcg Vanadium

> 10mg Vitamin B-1

> 15mg Vitamin B-2

> 40mg Vitamin B-3

> 60mg Vitamin B-5

> 10mg Vitamin B-6

> 3mg Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate

> 750mg Vitamin C

> 200 IU Vitamin D-3

> 225 IU Vitamin E

> 50mg Zinc

>

> What is milk thistle? Where can I find this?

>

> Thank you.

>

> Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> > I read in " Children with Starving Brains " that the gut should be healed

> first, then supplements, then chelation.

>>

>> How will I know if my son's gut is healed?

>

> From personal experience, works better if you start chelation and healing

> the gut at the same time. Healing the gut is almost impossible without

> chelation. In other words chelating makes it easier for the gut to heal.

>

>

>

>> So far, I am doing the following:

>>

>> Methyl B-12

>> Diet with Houston Enzymes

>> probiotics

>> Hyperbaric Oxygenation

>> Dr. Neubrander's Vitamin Powder (contains C, E ...)

>> fish oil

>> Carnaware

>>

>> Is my son ready?

>

> I am not sure what's in that powder, but you need more minerals (if they

> are not already included) like Zinc, Magnesium, Molybdenum (if it's

> needed), some kids do well with Calcium but not all of them, Selenium,

> etc.

> Also, you need some B vitamins. B12 is not enough.

> Maybe Milk Thistle, Taurine, anything else that might help your son.

> A lot of people complain about yeast overgrowth with chelation. It is not

> our experience (we had more problem with bacteria rather than yeast), but

> in case you want to be prepared for that... GSE seems to work nicely,

> other enzyme-based supplements.

> Good luck!

>

>

> Valentina

>

>

> =======================================================

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