Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Respectfully Andy, it is my opinion there are considerably more facts that you've listed. I've noted some of them below. Additionally, what is your source for stating: >One may easily obtain the same or similar zeolite and use it rather >than the branded product, that should be cheap. Where, what product, where can a pure liquid zeolite be purchased? I'm interested. You are deservedly respected for the work and commtment you've shown. Please supply your specific source if you are to make such statements. >In my personal opinion, there is no possibility this product is >effective for heavy metal detox for a very large number of reasons. >It may or may not cause other positive effects through different >mechanisms. Andy isn't rather strong, given there there are already a number of published studies that have nothing to do with the company that suggest your statement is likely not accurate. And, this summer, a study that has been already completed by an independent major university on NCD will be published that confirms the heavy metal detox of a wide range of heavy metals. On what basis would you state that the mechanisms that are proven inherent in zeolite, such as the absorbtion of lead, mercury, arsenic are some how missing in this product which has been refined and purified to enhance those properties not eliminate them. If you are going to state that the published results are wrong or that these proven properties of zeolite will not carry over to the human body, then on what basis are you speaking? Where are the studies you are drawing from? What mechanisms of action would cause these properties to disappear in the context of the body? Please apply the same riger to your statements as you are requesting of us. Forrist Here are some additional items that I take as facts since they are backed up by independent studies. While certainly not exhaustive or complete and in my opinion they provide substantial evidence to support the contention that the zeolite action is neither placebo or harmful, apparently beneficial: Digestive disorders: The best known positive biological activity of natural zeolite is its action as an anti-diarrheal drug. Zeolites lower the incidence of death and sickness (diarrheal syndrome) produced by intestinal diseases in swine, rats, and calves. Based on these results a comprehensive study was carried out on anti-diarrheal drugs based on natural zeolite as an active material, in the therapy of acute diarrheal diseases in humans. The research led to approval of the antidiarrheal drug Enterex for use in humans. Peroral use of encapsulated zeolite powders enriched with vitamins, oligoelements or other ingredients has been claimed to exert beneficial medical effects. Ingestion of zeolites may be considered analogous to the clay eating (geophagia), considered in traditional medicine as a remedy for various illnesses. The bulk of ingested zeolite probably remains undissolved in the gut. In view of the ion exchange properties, zeolites may be expected to change the ionic content, pH and buffering capacity of the gastrointestinal secretions and to affect the transport through the intestinal epithelium. In addition, zeolites could affect the bacterial flora and the resorption of bacterial products, vitamins and oligoelements. The contact of zeolite particles with gastrointestinal mucosa may elicit the secretion of cytokines with local and systemic actions. This creates a healthier digestive tract with beneficial microflora and microfauna. heavy metals: Studies have shown that the constituent zeolite in Natural Cellular Defense has a high affinity for trapping lead, cadmium and other potentially harmful heavy metals. Immune system: The aim of one study was to evaluate the antiviral properties of a natural non-toxic zeolite. Preliminary results indicate a possibility of therapeutic application of micronized zeolite, either locally (skin) against herpesvirus infections or orally in cases of adenovirus or enterovirus infections. The aim of a prospective, open, and controlled parallel-group study was to investigate the effects of supplementation with another zeolite on the cellular immune system in patients undergoing treatment for immunodeficiency disorder. in Cancer: It has been found that zeolites may act as anticancer therapeutic agents in in-vivo animal studies and in tissue culture cell models. The constituent natural zeolite from Natural Cellular Defense applied orally in mice and dogs suffering from a variety of tumor types led to a significant shrinkage of some tumors and improvement in overall health status in some animals. The range of effects was diverse, ranging from negative antitumor response, to normalization of biochemical parameters, prolongation of life span, and decrease in tumor size. The best results in animal models were observed in the treatment of skin cancer in dogs, suggesting that adsorption of some active components is responsible for zeolite activity (direct contact action). Complementary studies performed in tissue culture indicated that zeolite treatment affects proliferation and survival of several cancer cell lines. Addition of zeolite inhibited cell proliferation in a concentration-dependent manner, in part due to induction of inhibitors of cycline dependent kinases and induction of programmed cell death. The data indicates that zeolite treatment might affect cancer growth by attenuating survival signals and inducing tumor suppressor genes in treated cells. In addition, toxicology studies on mice and rats demonstrated that the treatment does not have negative effects. Safety-tolerability: Food additives and supplements in the U.S.A. are approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) under the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Title 21. Zeolites (CFR Title 21 (182.2727)) and Sodium Magnesium or Aluminum Silicates under CFR Title 21 (182.2227) are listed as GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe), and are permitted as food additives (supplements) without FDA approval. Furthermore, all ingredients (zeolites) are found on the TSCA listing of GRAS chemicals used in every day commerce in the United States. > > > my suggestion is that we can remain focused on the facts > > In which case there can be no further discussion of NCD zeolite beyond > the facts that it is a mineral, it is for sale for people to eat, and > the descriptive chemistry of it and other zeolites are very very very > well established and do not include chelation or detoxification in any > medically relevant sense. > > Besides, who decides what the facts are? You? Me? DeFelice? > Barrett? > > Andy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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