Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hi I'm not one of the veterans here, but if you can share the specifics of the protocols you are using or have tried (particularly dose and timing for TD-DMPS and TD-DMSA) and the supplements (with amounts), I'll bet someone will have some really relevant advice for you. Take care René Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 > > i have to say that very little has improved in a year. i am very > frustrated and sad. we have done DAN doc- yes at 300/hr- and chelated > for 3 months tddmps and tddmsa alternate weekends. i am ready to start > over. so. starting from scratch, my dtr annie is 5 y old, nonverbal. > epilepsy since 19 mo old. vitiligo all over, multiple autoimmune type > problems. tried ketogenic diet, failed it- would not take. lyme test > negative. multiple food sensitivities, reactive to everything. gfcfsf > for 1 1/2 years. tried afp peptizide with gluten but probably need to > give higher doses with meals- is a grazer, gave 1 chewable with meal- > did hair test at great plains and will reorder to do thru ddi so you > all can help me interpret. The Great Plains test actually IS a DDI test. The one you already did should be okay -- as long as it is a HAIR ELEMENTS test rather than a toxic elements test. > have seen no big wows with anything, but if > i start a therapy then stop it she regresses. postitves are yeast > killing- nystatin plus no fenol is great, melatonin- does sleep > better,craniosacral therapy. i do not want to do alot of lab tests > again. is anything jumping out at you that i should recheck or try? > i tried lauricidin but never really progressed and increased dose much. > i have a very super husband and terrific pediatrician as well as DAN- > who i would rather not pay any more money to. > i am considering stopping the tddmsa and tddmps and doing starting ala > alone- what do you think? fine as long as you use it every 3 hours (including at night). > i have a metals test kit my DAN sent but it > is a challenge test with dmsa suppository and i wont do that to annie > for possible harm per andy. > please talk back to me as if i am a newbie- maybe i am missing > something basic here? since you are a newbie, I have to wonder what dosing schedule you used for the chelation you have done so far. Many people have found the frequent dosing schedule to make a VERY BIG difference. > thanks for any advice. sometimes i feel so > alone in this journey, i am really grateful for all of you although i > wish you didnt have to go thru this either...teresa c > good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hi , I know you are probably sick of hearing this , but hang in there. Three months of chelation really isn't that long, considering 6 months to two years depending on child/severity of toxicity is considered an average. I don't think it would hurt to try ALA, since it crosses the bbb and I don't think that dmps or dmsa can (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, if you don't mind, list what supplements she is taking along with dosages if it's not too much trouble. How is her diet? That way we could offer suggestions based on our individual experiences that have helped. > > i have to say that very little has improved in a year. i am very > frustrated and sad. we have done DAN doc- yes at 300/hr- and chelated > for 3 months tddmps and tddmsa alternate weekends. i am ready to start > over. so. starting from scratch, my dtr annie is 5 y old, nonverbal. > epilepsy since 19 mo old. vitiligo all over, multiple autoimmune type > problems. tried ketogenic diet, failed it- would not take. lyme test > negative. multiple food sensitivities, reactive to everything. gfcfsf > for 1 1/2 years. tried afp peptizide with gluten but probably need to > give higher doses with meals- is a grazer, gave 1 chewable with meal- > did hair test at great plains and will reorder to do thru ddi so you > all can help me interpret. have seen no big wows with anything, but if > i start a therapy then stop it she regresses. postitves are yeast > killing- nystatin plus no fenol is great, melatonin- does sleep > better,craniosacral therapy. i do not want to do alot of lab tests > again. is anything jumping out at you that i should recheck or try? > i tried lauricidin but never really progressed and increased dose much. > i have a very super husband and terrific pediatrician as well as DAN- > who i would rather not pay any more money to. > i am considering stopping the tddmsa and tddmps and doing starting ala > alone- what do you think? i have a metals test kit my DAN sent but it > is a challenge test with dmsa suppository and i wont do that to annie > for possible harm per andy. > please talk back to me as if i am a newbie- maybe i am missing > something basic here? thanks for any advice. sometimes i feel so > alone in this journey, i am really grateful for all of you although i > wish you didnt have to go thru this either...teresa c > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Try NAET. > > > > i have to say that very little has improved in a year. i am very > > frustrated and sad. we have done DAN doc- yes at 300/hr- and > chelated > > for 3 months tddmps and tddmsa alternate weekends. i am ready to > start > > over. so. starting from scratch, my dtr annie is 5 y old, nonverbal. > > epilepsy since 19 mo old. vitiligo all over, multiple autoimmune > type > > problems. tried ketogenic diet, failed it- would not take. lyme test > > negative. multiple food sensitivities, reactive to everything. > gfcfsf > > for 1 1/2 years. tried afp peptizide with gluten but probably need > to > > give higher doses with meals- is a grazer, gave 1 chewable with > meal- > > did hair test at great plains and will reorder to do thru ddi so you > > all can help me interpret. have seen no big wows with anything, but > if > > i start a therapy then stop it she regresses. postitves are yeast > > killing- nystatin plus no fenol is great, melatonin- does sleep > > better,craniosacral therapy. i do not want to do alot of lab tests > > again. is anything jumping out at you that i should recheck or try? > > i tried lauricidin but never really progressed and increased dose > much. > > i have a very super husband and terrific pediatrician as well as > DAN- > > who i would rather not pay any more money to. > > i am considering stopping the tddmsa and tddmps and doing starting > ala > > alone- what do you think? i have a metals test kit my DAN sent but > it > > is a challenge test with dmsa suppository and i wont do that to > annie > > for possible harm per andy. > > please talk back to me as if i am a newbie- maybe i am missing > > something basic here? thanks for any advice. sometimes i feel so > > alone in this journey, i am really grateful for all of you although > i > > wish you didnt have to go thru this either...teresa c > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Holly, Have you used NAET? We took our son to a DAN doctor a couple of months ago that used the NAET method. We were a little skeptical and couldn't find anyone else that could give us some input. Please pass on any info you have. Thanks! Gretchen [ ] Re: frustrated- need advice Try NAET. > > > > i have to say that very little has improved in a year. i am very > > frustrated and sad. we have done DAN doc- yes at 300/hr- and > chelated > > for 3 months tddmps and tddmsa alternate weekends. i am ready to > start > > over. so. starting from scratch, my dtr annie is 5 y old, nonverbal. > > epilepsy since 19 mo old. vitiligo all over, multiple autoimmune > type > > problems. tried ketogenic diet, failed it- would not take. lyme test > > negative. multiple food sensitivities, reactive to everything. > gfcfsf > > for 1 1/2 years. tried afp peptizide with gluten but probably need > to > > give higher doses with meals- is a grazer, gave 1 chewable with > meal- > > did hair test at great plains and will reorder to do thru ddi so you > > all can help me interpret. have seen no big wows with anything, but > if > > i start a therapy then stop it she regresses. postitves are yeast > > killing- nystatin plus no fenol is great, melatonin- does sleep > > better,craniosacral therapy. i do not want to do alot of lab tests > > again. is anything jumping out at you that i should recheck or try? > > i tried lauricidin but never really progressed and increased dose > much. > > i have a very super husband and terrific pediatrician as well as > DAN- > > who i would rather not pay any more money to. > > i am considering stopping the tddmsa and tddmps and doing starting > ala > > alone- what do you think? i have a metals test kit my DAN sent but > it > > is a challenge test with dmsa suppository and i wont do that to > annie > > for possible harm per andy. > > please talk back to me as if i am a newbie- maybe i am missing > > something basic here? thanks for any advice. sometimes i feel so > > alone in this journey, i am really grateful for all of you although > i > > wish you didnt have to go thru this either...teresa c > > > ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I've used NAET for myself, both in CA and in WA. I found the practitioners I went to very helpful. S S Holly, Have you used NAET? We took our son to a DAN doctor a couple of months ago that used the NAET method. We were a little skeptical and couldn't find anyone else that could give us some input. Please pass on any info you have. Thanks! Gretchen _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 My son did 15 or so treatments of NAET/Bioset. At the last visit, I was told that it really wouldn't " take " on someone who had an underlying chronic illness or infection (duh, yeast, bacteria?). Of course, that is what my son is riddled with. What I saw was that reactions became delayed. He would react to a food 24hrs after he ate it, so I know it did something, just not what I was hoping. A friend showed me how to test whether a food or supplement would be good for me/my son to take which works amazingly well. I use that alot. a mom to > > Holly, > > Have you used NAET? We took our son to a DAN doctor a couple of months ago that used the NAET method. We were a little skeptical and couldn't find anyone else that could give us some input. Please pass on any info you have. Thanks! > > Gretchen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Are you giving probiotics? Did you do a DDI hair eo=lements test? What did it show? I presumes she has NO mercury amalgam dental filings... S S i have to say that very little has improved in a year. i am very frustrated and sad. we have done DAN doc- yes at 300/hr- and chelated for 3 months tddmps and tddmsa alternate weekends. i am ready to start over. so. starting from scratch, my dtr annie is 5 y old, nonverbal. epilepsy since 19 mo old. vitiligo all over, multiple autoimmune type problems. tried ketogenic diet, failed it- would not take. lyme test negative. multiple food sensitivities, reactive to everything. gfcfsf for 1 1/2 years. tried afp peptizide with gluten but probably need to give higher doses with meals- is a grazer, gave 1 chewable with meal- did hair test at great plains and will reorder to do thru ddi so you all can help me interpret. have seen no big wows with anything, but if i start a therapy then stop it she regresses. postitves are yeast killing- nystatin plus no fenol is great, melatonin- does sleep better,craniosacral therapy. i do not want to do alot of lab tests again. is anything jumping out at you that i should recheck or try? i tried lauricidin but never really progressed and increased dose much. i have a very super husband and terrific pediatrician as well as DAN- who i would rather not pay any more money to. i am considering stopping the tddmsa and tddmps and doing starting ala alone- what do you think? i have a metals test kit my DAN sent but it is a challenge test with dmsa suppository and i wont do that to annie for possible harm per andy. please talk back to me as if i am a newbie- maybe i am missing something basic here? thanks for any advice. sometimes i feel so alone in this journey, i am really grateful for all of you although i wish you didnt have to go thru this either...teresa c ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 , We, too, have a seizure prone daughter. For her, afp peptizide contributed to neuro irritability. Enzymes that she's able to tolerate include Ultrase MT(prescription), and Thorne's Dipan(non- prescription). Keeping our child off gluten, casein, peanut, dyes, additives, hydrogenated fats and relatively low phenol has been critical for seizure prevention. No phenol also did not work well for her even in small amoounts. Isn't Great Plains hair test processed through Doctor's Data? - down at the bottom of the page in almost readable print it will say what lab. You may be able to post those results if they're at all current. Keep plugging! I'd love to have that 5 year old under my wing. Our child was 15 when I first found the mercury connection in 2001 but better late than never! B. > > i have to say that very little has improved in a year. i am very > frustrated and sad. we have done DAN doc- yes at 300/hr- and chelated > for 3 months tddmps and tddmsa alternate weekends. i am ready to start > over. so. starting from scratch, my dtr annie is 5 y old, nonverbal. > epilepsy since 19 mo old. vitiligo all over, multiple autoimmune type > problems. tried ketogenic diet, failed it- would not take. lyme test > negative. multiple food sensitivities, reactive to everything. gfcfsf > for 1 1/2 years. tried afp peptizide with gluten but probably need to > give higher doses with meals- is a grazer, gave 1 chewable with meal- > did hair test at great plains and will reorder to do thru ddi so you > all can help me interpret. have seen no big wows with anything, but if > i start a therapy then stop it she regresses. postitves are yeast > killing- nystatin plus no fenol is great, melatonin- does sleep > better,craniosacral therapy. i do not want to do alot of lab tests > again. is anything jumping out at you that i should recheck or try? > i tried lauricidin but never really progressed and increased dose much. > i have a very super husband and terrific pediatrician as well as DAN- > who i would rather not pay any more money to. > i am considering stopping the tddmsa and tddmps and doing starting ala > alone- what do you think? i have a metals test kit my DAN sent but it > is a challenge test with dmsa suppository and i wont do that to annie > for possible harm per andy. > please talk back to me as if i am a newbie- maybe i am missing > something basic here? thanks for any advice. sometimes i feel so > alone in this journey, i am really grateful for all of you although i > wish you didnt have to go thru this either...teresa c > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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