ADVICE - DDI HAIR TEST RESULTS POSTING

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I finally got the DDI Hair Elements test back, and this is what I received. I'm

dismayed to be feeling a huge letdown because I just really thought I'd see

something here. He doesn't meet any counting rules, and yet based on his

vaccine records, he was definitely exposed. I am thinking of chelating some

rounds and doing another test, just to see if I can shake things up. Does this

sound like the thing to do? I realized I was really pinning my hopes on this as

a way to possibly help my son, and I know that sounds bad - actually hoping the

test showed problems, because then I would have a direction to take. I'm at a

loss on how to help my little boy!

McSeveney

Baytown, TX

Results are:

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

element result ref range color

==============================================

aluminum 8.1 < 8.0 green (borderline yellow)

antimony 0.10 < .066 yellow

arsenic 0.21 < .080 yellow

beryllium <0.01 < 0.020 no line

bismuth .27 < .13 yellow

cadmium .42 < .15 yellow

lead 2.8 < 1.0 yellow

mercury < 0.03 < 0.40 no line

platinum < 0.003 < .005 no line

thallium 0.001 < 0.010 green

thorium 0.002 < 0.005 green

uranium 0.040 < 0.060 green

nickel 0.29 < 0.40 green

silver 0.22 < 0.13 yellow

tin 0.46 < 0.30 yellow

titanium 0.83 < 1.0 green

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

element result ref range color under/over 50%

============================================================

Calcium 228 160-500 green under 50%

Magnesium 11 12-50 yellow under 50%

Sodium 52 12-90 green over 50%

Potassium 27 10-40 green under 50%

Copper 15 9.0-30 white centered dot

Zinc 130 110-190 green under 50%

Manganese 0.44 0.18-0.60 green over 50%

Chromium 0.48 0.23-0.50 green over 50%

Vanadium 0.082 0.025-0.10 green over 50%

Molybdenum 0.083 0.040-0.089 green over 50%

Boron 2.7 0.50-3.5 green over 50%

Iodine 5.3 0.25-1.3 pink over 50%

Lithium 0.008 0.007-0.023 green under 50%

Phosphorus 143 160-250 yellow under 50%

Selenium 0.90 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

Strontium 0.98 0.21-2.1 green over 50%

Sulfur 44900 45500-53000 yellow under 50%

Barium 0.66 0.19-1.6 white over 50% (borderline green)

Cobalt 0.011 0.013-0.035 yellow under 50%

Iron 11 6.0-17 green over 50%

Germanium 0.044 0.045-0.065 green under 50% (borderline yellow)

Rubidium 0.033 0.008-0.080 green over 50%

Zirconium 0.32 0.060-0.70 white over 50%

[Guest guest]

>>I am thinking of chelating some rounds and doing another test, just

to see if I can shake things up. Does this sound like the thing to do?

Not sure anything would change about a hair test after just a few

rounds, but I would definitely recommend you do try a few rounds, to

see if you notice any changes in your child.

> aluminum 8.1 < 8.0 green (borderline yellow)

> antimony 0.10 < .066 yellow

> arsenic 0.21 < .080 yellow

> bismuth .27 < .13 yellow

> cadmium .42 < .15 yellow

> lead 2.8 < 1.0 yellow

> silver 0.22 < 0.13 yellow

> tin 0.46 < 0.30 yellow

Consider eliminating sources of current exposures

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

As an example of why this test might still have good info for you, I

know a few kids who recovered just by removing all the antimony from

their environment.

The lead reading is also something to consider.

> Selenium 0.90 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

Adding this was very helpful for my son.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>I am thinking of chelating some rounds and doing another test, just

to see if I can shake things up. Does this sound like the thing to do?

Yes. My son, and others here too, didn't meet the counting rules

either but have benefied enormously from chelation. My son's test also

had high aluminum, antimony, and arsenic.

> I realized I was really pinning my hopes on this as a way to

possibly help my son, and I know that sounds bad - actually hoping the

test showed problems, because then I would have a direction to take.

Not bad at all, totally understandable. I'd consider a 5-10 round

trial of chelation Andy-style and see if he responds.

Nell

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You could do the Urinary Porphyrins urine test that is being done in Paris.

Pain to pay for but easy to collect. Andy checked a set of results for me and

said it was valid. The wee needs to get there within 5 days which shouldn't

be too difficult.

I am plannign on doing one on Sam soon

Mandi in UK

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In a message dated 12/01/2006 23:44:08 GMT Standard Time,

MandiRodwell@... writes:

You could do the Urinary Porphyrins urine test that is being done in Paris.

Pain to pay for but easy to collect. Andy checked a set of results for me

and

said it was valid. The wee needs to get there within 5 days which shouldn't

be too difficult.

>>>oops forgot to give you the link

_http://www.labbio.net/pages/index_vh_eng.htm_

(http://www.labbio.net/pages/index_vh_eng.htm)

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Dana and Nell,

I will definitely be chelating just to see, but was actually considering

something along the lines of a 20 round commitment before making any decisions,

so you have cemented that, thanks!

His diet stinks, I can't get him to eat anything, but he is on conventional ADHD

meds (Focalin) for school, and it wreaks havoc with appetite. I caved when he

just couldn't function in a classroom, and with meds he is getting A's and

holding his own behavior wise. At home, he comes down off the medicine and the

process is a daily nightmare of screeching, screaming, hitting, slamming,

whining, crying, etc., escalating until we give him clonidine to knock him out.

Homework is impossible, we get maybe half of it done. It hurts us all terribly,

but mostly Hunter since he is very aware his behavior costs him friends and

respect from those around him. He just cannot seem to control it. :-(

Finding sources of this stuff sounds overwhelming, but if it's in his

environment, then I have a 10 year old and a 2.5 year old at risk. Thanks for

that suggestion. I just don't know what all I am looking at, and the

information needed to be adept at this is so vast and foreign that I am feeling

inadequate and pretty overwhelmed.

[Guest guest]

and the information needed to be adept at this is so vast and foreign

that I am feeling inadequate and pretty overwhelmed.

I think everyone feels this way at the beginning. Just keep reading

here, study the FAQ and the files, use onibasu to search for posts on

things you want more info about, and ask all the questions you want. I

have a feeling your son is going to be in a lot better shape soon.

Nell

[Guest guest]

I would definitely do a few rounds, several actually, and then decide what you

want to do. Mine didn't meet the counting rules either and yet he is improving

with chelation. Maybe he is holding his toxins inside and it just isn't

registering in his hair? Who knows? I know he had plenty of exposure and is

autistic so a metal issue was also a given for me. I was crushed when his

challenge test came back with little on it. Now I know that isn't a good test

for more than one reason. I do plan on testing my NT son and will chelate for a

few rounds regardless as well. He wasn't vaccinated but was a Rhogam baby and I

am toxic myself so his issues are small but still likely Hg induced.

One thing is for sure, our kids are different than all other kids. It is

impossible to know what is going to be helpful or not until you try! He may

test not toxic but be helped immensely by chelation. Or his issue may lie

elsewhere. What is great is that you are searching for it. He is luck to have

a mother who is willing to do this for him!

Just make sure you chelate properly and that he doesn't have any Hg in his

mouth.

Wishing you lots of luck!

McSeveney <cgolla@...> wrote:

I finally got the DDI Hair Elements test back, and this is what I received.

I'm dismayed to be feeling a huge letdown because I just really thought I'd see

something here. He doesn't meet any counting rules, and yet based on his

vaccine records, he was definitely exposed. I am thinking of chelating some

rounds and doing another test, just to see if I can shake things up. Does this

sound like the thing to do? I realized I was really pinning my hopes on this as

a way to possibly help my son, and I know that sounds bad - actually hoping the

test showed problems, because then I would have a direction to take. I'm at a

loss on how to help my little boy!

McSeveney

Baytown, TX

Results are:

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

element result ref range color

==============================================

aluminum 8.1 < 8.0 green (borderline yellow)

antimony 0.10 < .066 yellow

arsenic 0.21 < .080 yellow

beryllium <0.01 < 0.020 no line

bismuth .27 < .13 yellow

cadmium .42 < .15 yellow

lead 2.8 < 1.0 yellow

mercury < 0.03 < 0.40 no line

platinum < 0.003 < .005 no line

thallium 0.001 < 0.010 green

thorium 0.002 < 0.005 green

uranium 0.040 < 0.060 green

nickel 0.29 < 0.40 green

silver 0.22 < 0.13 yellow

tin 0.46 < 0.30 yellow

titanium 0.83 < 1.0 green

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

element result ref range color under/over 50%

============================================================

Calcium 228 160-500 green under 50%

Magnesium 11 12-50 yellow under 50%

Sodium 52 12-90 green over 50%

Potassium 27 10-40 green under 50%

Copper 15 9.0-30 white centered dot

Zinc 130 110-190 green under 50%

Manganese 0.44 0.18-0.60 green over 50%

Chromium 0.48 0.23-0.50 green over 50%

Vanadium 0.082 0.025-0.10 green over 50%

Molybdenum 0.083 0.040-0.089 green over 50%

Boron 2.7 0.50-3.5 green over 50%

Iodine 5.3 0.25-1.3 pink over 50%

Lithium 0.008 0.007-0.023 green under 50%

Phosphorus 143 160-250 yellow under 50%

Selenium 0.90 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

Strontium 0.98 0.21-2.1 green over 50%

Sulfur 44900 45500-53000 yellow under 50%

Barium 0.66 0.19-1.6 white over 50% (borderline green)

Cobalt 0.011 0.013-0.035 yellow under 50%

Iron 11 6.0-17 green over 50%

Germanium 0.044 0.045-0.065 green under 50% (borderline yellow)

Rubidium 0.033 0.008-0.080 green over 50%

Zirconium 0.32 0.060-0.70 white over 50%

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Comments interspersed.

S S

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POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS <BR>

element       result    ref range    color <BR>

============================================== <BR>

antimony      0.10      < .066       yellow <BR>

arsenic       0.21      < .080       yellow <BR>

bismuth       .27       < .13        yellow <BR>

cadmium       .42       < .15        yellow<BR>

lead          2.8       < 1.0        yellow<BR>

silver        0.22      < 0.13       yellow <BR>

tin           0.46      < 0.30       yellow <BR>

*You've got plenty here to work with, IMO. Identify and remove/reduce sources

of exposure to the above. You have arsenic and lead above reference range.

DMSA chelates both lead and mercury. ALA chelates both arsenic and mercury. A

trial of chelation sounds like a good idea. It may very well be the above

causing symptoms or could be that mercury caused his body to have difficulty

detoxing these. There is also a antimony/arsenic-autism list on groups.

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My hair analysis came back initially with no mercury, and I have seen this

many times in people that are very mercury toxic but have no ability to

metabolize it out of their body. Later when I started to metabolize mercury

after my minerals had come up I had huge amounts in my hair.

This was talked about in the US gov book " The Chronic Effect of Mercury on

Organisms " , that no mercury in urine or hair often meant the person had the

highest burden of mercury, not the least.

Cheers,

gary

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On Behalf Of lvchefmel

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ADVICE - DDI HAIR TEST RESULTS POSTING

I would definitely do a few rounds, several actually, and then decide what

you want to do. Mine didn't meet the counting rules either and yet he is

improving with chelation. Maybe he is holding his toxins inside and it just

isn't registering in his hair? Who knows? I know he had plenty of exposure

and is autistic so a metal issue was also a given for me. I was crushed

when his challenge test came back with little on it. Now I know that isn't

a good test for more than one reason. I do plan on testing my NT son and

will chelate for a few rounds regardless as well. He wasn't vaccinated but

was a Rhogam baby and I am toxic myself so his issues are small but still

likely Hg induced.

One thing is for sure, our kids are different than all other kids. It is

impossible to know what is going to be helpful or not until you try! He may

test not toxic but be helped immensely by chelation. Or his issue may lie

elsewhere. What is great is that you are searching for it. He is luck to

have a mother who is willing to do this for him!

Just make sure you chelate properly and that he doesn't have any Hg in his

mouth.

Wishing you lots of luck!

McSeveney <cgolla@...> wrote:

I finally got the DDI Hair Elements test back, and this is what I

received. I'm dismayed to be feeling a huge letdown because I just really

thought I'd see something here. He doesn't meet any counting rules, and yet

based on his vaccine records, he was definitely exposed. I am thinking of

chelating some rounds and doing another test, just to see if I can shake

things up. Does this sound like the thing to do? I realized I was really

pinning my hopes on this as a way to possibly help my son, and I know that

sounds bad - actually hoping the test showed problems, because then I would

have a direction to take. I'm at a loss on how to help my little boy!

McSeveney

Baytown, TX

Results are:

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

element result ref range color

==============================================

aluminum 8.1 < 8.0 green (borderline yellow)

antimony 0.10 < .066 yellow

arsenic 0.21 < .080 yellow

beryllium <0.01 < 0.020 no line

bismuth .27 < .13 yellow

cadmium .42 < .15 yellow

lead 2.8 < 1.0 yellow

mercury < 0.03 < 0.40 no line

platinum < 0.003 < .005 no line

thallium 0.001 < 0.010 green

thorium 0.002 < 0.005 green

uranium 0.040 < 0.060 green

nickel 0.29 < 0.40 green

silver 0.22 < 0.13 yellow

tin 0.46 < 0.30 yellow

titanium 0.83 < 1.0 green

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

element result ref range color under/over 50%

============================================================

Calcium 228 160-500 green under 50%

Magnesium 11 12-50 yellow under 50%

Sodium 52 12-90 green over 50%

Potassium 27 10-40 green under 50%

Copper 15 9.0-30 white centered dot

Zinc 130 110-190 green under 50%

Manganese 0.44 0.18-0.60 green over 50%

Chromium 0.48 0.23-0.50 green over 50%

Vanadium 0.082 0.025-0.10 green over 50%

Molybdenum 0.083 0.040-0.089 green over 50%

Boron 2.7 0.50-3.5 green over 50%

Iodine 5.3 0.25-1.3 pink over 50%

Lithium 0.008 0.007-0.023 green under 50%

Phosphorus 143 160-250 yellow under 50%

Selenium 0.90 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

Strontium 0.98 0.21-2.1 green over 50%

Sulfur 44900 45500-53000 yellow under 50%

Barium 0.66 0.19-1.6 white over 50% (borderline green)

Cobalt 0.011 0.013-0.035 yellow under 50%

Iron 11 6.0-17 green over 50%

Germanium 0.044 0.045-0.065 green under 50% (borderline yellow)

Rubidium 0.033 0.008-0.080 green over 50%

Zirconium 0.32 0.060-0.70 white over 50%

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Hence the counting rules.

S S

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My hair analysis came back initially with no mercury, and I have seen this<BR>

many times in people that are very mercury toxic but have no ability to<BR>

metabolize it out of their body. Later when I started to metabolize mercury<BR>

after my minerals had come up I had huge amounts in my hair. <BR>

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