Re: ANDY /Others Kirkman Lab new supplement detox assist?

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> Kirkman lab now has 2 new products to help assist in Detox

>

> DRN Vitamin & Mineral Basic Supplement Powder

> Please everyone chime in

> Kenny V

My only comment is the basic supplement powder has sucralose which I

won't give my kids.

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> My only comment is the basic supplement powder has sucralose which I

> won't give my kids.

Agreed. Also natural flavorings, which are a disaster for my kids.

Even though a multi has such convenience appeal, IME there's always

something wrong with them -- either the dosages are way off or there's

an ingredient that isn;t tolerated, whether it's an aditive like

sucralose or something else, like P5P.

Nell

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> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drndetox.html

No comment on this one. A few of the ingredients look okay, some of

them my son was toxic.

> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drnvitamin.html

Vitamin A as beta carotene, would not have helped my son at all.

B vitamins seem reasonable. Not nearly enough biotin or B1, but my

son needed grossly huge levels of those.

My son needed higher levels of many of the other ingredients, but the

quantities in this supp seem okay for most kids.

My son did not tolerate orange or tangerine, even as just flavors,

until the very end of ALA chelation.

I won't use sucralose.

> Another load of supplements recommended on top of all the others very

> $$$ Pricy too.

You can make your own, which is what I did by reading ingredients of

" things that help many kids " and then going to my local health food

store and buying them individually, then compounding my own in my

kitchen [starting everything one at a time first].

Dana

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> You can make your own, which is what I did by reading ingredients of

> " things that help many kids " and then going to my local health food

> store and buying them individually, then compounding my own in my

> kitchen [starting everything one at a time first].

>

> Dana

Dana,

How did you compound them yourself in your kitchen?

P.S. You are truely amazing and such an inspiration!

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> Dana,

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> How did you compound them yourself in your kitchen?

Not Dana, but I do the same thing. I buy B vites, zinc, milk thistle,

etc. separately (and sometimes had to try a different form or another

brand) test them individually, and then once a week I dump the week's

worth of caps onto a piece of paper, stir wildly, and scoop the

mixture into empty caps. It helps to listen to really great music at

the same time.

Nell

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Nell, you crack me up.

lancelli wrote:

.... and then once a week I dump the week's

worth of caps onto a piece of paper, stir wildly, and scoop the

mixture into empty caps. It helps to listen to really great music at

the same time.

Nell

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HAHA! Too funny! All the empty caps make nice music. LOL Nice touch

of humor especially when you pay an arm and leg for the supplements,

you might as well get the use out of the empty capsules. That is if

your child does not swallow them.

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> .... and then once a week I dump the week's

> worth of caps onto a piece of paper, stir wildly, and scoop the

> mixture into empty caps. It helps to listen to really great

music at

> the same time.

>

> Nell

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In a message dated 1/14/2006 11:07:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, KEN@...

writes:

Kirkman lab now has 2 new products to help assist in Detox

DRN Vitamin & Mineral Basic Supplement Powder

DRN Dextoxification Booster Hypoallergenic Capsules

These are based on Dr. Neubranders supplement requirements for MB12. For

people following his protocol it will no doubt save us money since we are not

buying all this stuff separately. I've been waiting all week for these!!!

Kerrie

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>

> > Dana,

> >

> > How did you compound them yourself in your kitchen?

>

> Not Dana, but I do the same thing. I buy B vites, zinc, milk thistle,

> etc. separately (and sometimes had to try a different form or another

> brand) test them individually, and then once a week I dump the week's

> worth of caps onto a piece of paper, stir wildly, and scoop the

> mixture into empty caps. It helps to listen to really great music at

> the same time.

>

> Nell

I like Nell's story better!

My son's supplement requirements change almost daily [which is very

frustrating, to finally figure something out, only to have it change

24 hours later, which has actually happened several times, aarrgghh!].

So I do the compounding 3x per day. I set out two small custard

dishes [one for #2 and one for #3], and I take out each supplement and

include it at the desired dose for each child. This takes a lot of

time and is very frustrating, but if I compounded more than 1-2 doses

at a time, I would end up throwing them away most of the time.

Dana

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This takes a lot of

> time and is very frustrating, but if I compounded more than 1-2 doses

> at a time, I would end up throwing them away most of the time.

Wow! I think I'm just less observant, and possibly n doesn't

respond that visibly to many supps. I can tell when something is

having a bad effect much more easily than a good one. Right now I'm

doing a complete supp overhaul to figure out what's bothering him -- I

gave nothing for a few days and am adding them back one at a time. I'm

assuming that for the basic chelation supps (minerals +antioxidants) I

should keep them as long as they don't have a bad effect, nevermind

seeing anything positive.

Nell

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> Wow! I think I'm just less observant, and possibly n doesn't

> respond that visibly to many supps. I can tell when something is

> having a bad effect much more easily than a good one.

Yes, when my son no longer needs a supplement, he becomes an entirely

different child! However, at this stage of biomedical/recovery, it is

also dramatic when he needs something. Like the folic acid, which

caused a complete elimination of scripting within 30 minutes, and I

was able to watch the effect wear off several hours later.

>> Right now I'm

> doing a complete supp overhaul to figure out what's bothering him -- I

> gave nothing for a few days and am adding them back one at a time.

I have done this many times.

I'm

> assuming that for the basic chelation supps (minerals +antioxidants) I

> should keep them as long as they don't have a bad effect, nevermind

> seeing anything positive.

My son never has just " no effect " , so I can't really comment. When I

give something that he no longer needs, he regresses in a very

noticeable manner.

Dana

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--- danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

> Yes, when my son no longer needs a supplement, he

> becomes an entirely

> different child! However, at this stage of

> biomedical/recovery, it is

> also dramatic when he needs something. Like the

> folic acid, which

> caused a complete elimination of scripting within 30

> minutes, and I

> was able to watch the effect wear off several hours

> later.

What's " scrippting? "

>

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> What's " scrippting? "

Reciting videos and other " scripts " all day long.

Dana

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> How did you compound them yourself in your kitchen?

I am doing the same thing, but with one pill at a time.

I decide what my son needs for the day and I fill empty capsules with whatever

supplement quantities I need. It doesn't take more than a few minutes... And

this way I can save some money too, because I buy supplements in higher doses

(which are cheaper as a total). And I don't have to give my son 20 different

pills - having a pill of a higher dose I only need a fraction of it.

Valentina

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> Kirkman lab now has 2 new products to help assist in Detox

>

> DRN Vitamin & Mineral Basic Supplement Powder

> DRN Dextoxification Booster Hypoallergenic Capsules

>

> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drndetox.html

>

> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drnvitamin.html

I don't see why these would be desirable or particularly useful

compared to other products.

Andy . . . . .

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The line of DRN products that Kirkman carries were developed for Dr. Jim

Neubrander's patients. They are not new Detox products though one is used

by Dr Neubrander to aid in his detox protocol.

They are products to be used by Dr Neubrander's patients as directed by the

doctor.

Patients of other doctors should not use these unless specifically

instructed to by their physician.

Kirkman

[ ] Re: ANDY /Others Kirkman Lab new supplement

detox assist?

> Kirkman lab now has 2 new products to help assist in Detox

>

> DRN Vitamin & Mineral Basic Supplement Powder

> DRN Dextoxification Booster Hypoallergenic Capsules

>

> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drndetox.html

>

> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drnvitamin.html

I don't see why these would be desirable or particularly useful

compared to other products.

Andy . . . . .

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Oh bother!!

The line of DRN products that Kirkman carries were developed for Dr. Jim

Neubrander's patients. They are not new Detox products though one is used

by Dr Neubrander to aid in his detox protocol.

They are products to be used by Dr Neubrander's patients as directed by the

doctor.

Patients of other doctors should not use these unless specifically

instructed to by their physician.

Kirkman

[ ] Re: ANDY /Others Kirkman Lab new supplement

detox assist?

> Kirkman lab now has 2 new products to help assist in Detox

>

> DRN Vitamin & Mineral Basic Supplement Powder

> DRN Dextoxification Booster Hypoallergenic Capsules

>

> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drndetox.html

>

> http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/drn/drnvitamin.html

I don't see why these would be desirable or particularly useful

compared to other products.

Andy . . . . .

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