Re: question for people using doctors to chelate

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> Moria,

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> I'm not arguing here. I'm trying to figure out what helps

people

> to understand this issue.

I'm trying to get myself understood. I think that whoever-

started-the-thread (was it Anita? sorry, not sure) is trying

to understand the other dosing methods, and why they survive.

If I were trying to figure out what you are, , I would

be making different comments, FWIW.

> > > Pharmacology textbooks tell doctors to dose drugs on the half

life.

> >

> > Surely no one (pharmacology texts, schools, docs, you name it)

> > says to dose on the half life when the half life is 3 hours.

> What the textbooks say is that multiple dose administation (what we

> are calling frequent dose) should be used with drugs with a narrow

> therapeutic range. When the blood level goes too low the drug

will be

> ineffective and if the blood level goes too high it will be toxic.

> The window in the middle is the therapeutic range. It makes sense

to

> me that chelation fits this model.

I personally think chelation is different for other reasons than

the ones you listed, and which I've explained before. I think it

is BOTH similar AND different than other medication.

> > I have never heard of anyone waking up at night to take,

> > say, blood pressure medication.

> > Have you?

> >

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> Maybe blood pressure medications have a longer half life. I have

> heard of people waking up at night to take pain medication. I can

> remember nurses waking me at night for medication (whatever it was)

> when I was in the hospital.

Oh! great example! I didn't think of that!

> There are case reports from adults who use chelators in high

> infrequent doses, get fairly messed up, and then chelate with the

same

> chelator and low frequent doses and get better. Recently there

was a

> person on the adult metal group who reported this exact experience

> with ALA. Perhaps collecting those type of reports would help

people

> to understand. Those are the reports that catch my attention.

I have been collecting for between 1 and 2 years now.

I sent you specifics of exactly what I am looking for

in private email about a week ago.

I collect only from this list, of course.

good wishes,

Moria

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

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> > There are case reports from adults who use chelators in high

> > infrequent doses, get fairly messed up, and then chelate with the

> same

> > chelator and low frequent doses and get better. Recently there

> was a

> > person on the adult metal group who reported this exact experience

> > with ALA. Perhaps collecting those type of reports would help

> people

> > to understand. Those are the reports that catch my attention.

>

> I have been collecting for between 1 and 2 years now.

> I sent you specifics of exactly what I am looking for

> in private email about a week ago.

Yes, I remember,

> I collect only from this list, of course.

>

I will continue to ask adults from other lists to post their

experiences to this list. Most don't, for whatever reasons.

J

> good wishes,

> Moria

> http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

> Mercury Detox: Information, Tools, and Resources

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> > That is what I've been saying all along--- SOME drugs are

> > dosed on half-life, others are dosed completely differently

> > I think. But my question is still a good one (I think):

> > are there any cases where drugs that are dosed on half-life

> > and you are expected to take them at 4 am?

> >

> > Moria

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> When I was a child and had a bad infection, the first round

> of antibiotics did not knock down the infection. The doctor

> prescribed another round of antibiotics and made the emphatic

> point to my mother that she must dose it every 6 hours,

> including waking me at night. I assume the frequency was

> based on knowledge of the half-life, though I don't know

> for certain.

Wow, this is also a great example!

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> > When I was a child and had a bad infection, the first round

> > of antibiotics did not knock down the infection. The doctor

> > prescribed another round of antibiotics and made the emphatic

> > point to my mother that she must dose it every 6 hours,

> > including waking me at night. I assume the frequency was

> > based on knowledge of the half-life, though I don't know

> > for certain.

>

> Wow, this is also a great example!

Is there ANY antibiotic that is not recommended to be taken every certain

number of hours?

Valentina

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> > > When I was a child and had a bad infection, the first round

> > > of antibiotics did not knock down the infection. The doctor

> > > prescribed another round of antibiotics and made the emphatic

> > > point to my mother that she must dose it every 6 hours,

> > > including waking me at night. I assume the frequency was

> > > based on knowledge of the half-life, though I don't know

> > > for certain.

> >

> > Wow, this is also a great example!

>

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> Is there ANY antibiotic that is not recommended to be taken every

certain

> number of hours?

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> Valentina

Valentina, that is an okay question, but please note that I

asked specifically about whether there are any drugs with

dosing instructions that include taking/giving it during the

night. I think it is one thing to say " take every 3 hours "

during the day, but another thing to say " take every 3 hours

including during the night " .

best,

Moria

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