Re: Can a GF/CF Diet Cause Spitting and Vomitting? Please Advise.

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Abid,

You say he's on the gf/cf diet. What foods does he actually eat? Is everybody

on board with it or is anybody (school, friends, relatives) letting him " cheat "

figuring a little won't hurt? What exactly is in the massive multivitamin? I

would certainly consider HNI enzymes and a non-dairy probiotic but add them one

at a time and watch for side effects.

S S

<BR>

OK, here's my problem.  My son, who just turned 5 was diagnosed with ASD in

November of last year.  We started to see a DAN doctor soon after that.  I'll

use a dateline to make things simpler.<BR>

<BR>

  October 10, 2005: Started use of Fish oil.  Some language improvment seen. 

Lots of stimming improvement.<BR>

   <BR>

  Nov. 5, 2005:  Officially diagnosed with ASD.  Started use of CarnAware. 

Started to see more language.<BR>

   <BR>

  Nov. 20 -- Added vitamin C & E liquid to diet.<BR>

   <BR>

  Dec. 2 -- began GF/CF diet.  Within 2 days, started fluctuating between

constipation and diarhea --  mostly constipation.  We used pears and prunes to

attack the constipation.  Next, he started spitting every now and then. <BR>

   <BR>

  Dec. 3 -- 1st visit to DAN Dr.<BR>

   <BR>

  Dec. 10 -- started Methy B-12.  He seems to be a mild-moderate responder<BR>

   <BR>

  Today -- Hasan is salivating alot!  This has gone on now since the start of

GF/CF diet -- is that a coincedence?  Spits on floors, hands, clothes etc.  For

the past 2 days, he has occassional vomiting which is not normal for him.<BR>

   <BR>

   <BR>

  Now my question:<BR>

   <BR>

  Can a GF/CF diet cause stomach issues like this?  Can a GF/CF diet cause

spitting and vomiting?  Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a yeast infection or leaky

gut?  Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a virus?<BR>

   <BR>

  The DAN doctor has next put my son on a massive multiviatmin to " feed his

starving brain " .  What should I do?  Should I start my son on enzymes and

probiotics NOW?  <BR>

   <BR>

  HELP!<BR>

 

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[Guest guest]

You may be seeing withdrawal symptoms from the opiods. Also, check to

see if this might be a responder sign of MB-12 . Are you giving him

injections or in oral form? It's possible that he is feeling things

that he never had before because of improvement. i.e. new senses Have

you added any other vitamin or supplement? Zinc made my son vomit. My

son, Drew, actually did a lot of mouthing of objects and drooling when

first starting the diet and especially the injections. This is a

positive-negative. He would come home from school with his shirt

sleeves and chest soaked. It eventually stopped. I want to say maybe a

month or two?

Missy Nadeau

Son, Drew, 8 years old

Now starting to read, ride a two-wheeler, pretend play, and interact

with peers thanks to Chelation

[ ] Can a GF/CF Diet Cause Spitting and Vomitting?

Please Advise.

OK, here's my problem. My son, who just turned 5 was diagnosed with ASD

in November of last year. We started to see a DAN doctor soon after

that. I'll use a dateline to make things simpler.

October 10, 2005: Started use of Fish oil. Some language improvment

seen. Lots of stimming improvement.

Nov. 5, 2005: Officially diagnosed with ASD. Started use of

CarnAware. Started to see more language.

Nov. 20 -- Added vitamin C & E liquid to diet.

Dec. 2 -- began GF/CF diet. Within 2 days, started fluctuating

between constipation and diarhea -- mostly constipation. We used pears

and prunes to attack the constipation. Next, he started spitting every

now and then.

Dec. 3 -- 1st visit to DAN Dr.

Dec. 10 -- started Methy B-12. He seems to be a mild-moderate

responder

Today -- Hasan is salivating alot! This has gone on now since the

start of GF/CF diet -- is that a coincedence? Spits on floors, hands,

clothes etc. For the past 2 days, he has occassional vomiting which is

not normal for him.

Now my question:

Can a GF/CF diet cause stomach issues like this? Can a GF/CF diet

cause spitting and vomiting? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a yeast

infection or leaky gut? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a virus?

The DAN doctor has next put my son on a massive multiviatmin to " feed

his starving brain " . What should I do? Should I start my son on

enzymes and probiotics NOW?

HELP!

Dec.

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[Guest guest]

Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a yeast infection or leaky gut?

Yes, if the replacement food is high carb like potatoes and rice.

Often the not-tolerated foods aren;t gluten and casein, but other

things. Houston enzymes are likely to help. What does he eat?

> The DAN doctor has next put my son on a massive multiviatmin to

" feed his starving brain " .

Did the salivating get worse after starting this? What's in it? Multis

can be problematic for lots of people, it only takes one funky

ingredient to make the whole thing not work.

Sorry you're having a rough start. It does take time to tease all this

gut stuff out.

Nell

[Guest guest]

,

Answers to your questions:

His diet is now mainly several forms of rice, eggs & fruit from baby jars.

I don't think there is any cheating -- the school tells us if my son is trying

to eat anybody else's food.

We have not started giving him the massive vitamin. It is called Dr. N's

Vitamin/Mineral Supplement Powder. The powder has just about all the vitamins

and nutrients recommended in " Children with Starving Brains " . We are about to

start it on Friday.

This is my guess as to what is happening: My feeling is that the bacteria

(Candida?) or yeast in my son's gut is being starved out (with no gluten or

casien) and is causing acid. This results in spit and now nausea. I am going

to ask my DAN Dr. to hold off on the vitamin and get to enzymes, probiotics and

drugs to combat Candida.

Any other ideas or suggestions are very welcome.

Thank you.

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

Abid,

You say he's on the gf/cf diet. What foods does he actually eat? Is everybody on

board with it or is anybody (school, friends, relatives) letting him " cheat "

figuring a little won't hurt? What exactly is in the massive multivitamin? I

would certainly consider HNI enzymes and a non-dairy probiotic but add them one

at a time and watch for side effects.

S S

OK, here's my problem. My son, who just turned 5 was diagnosed with ASD in

November of last year. We started to see a DAN doctor soon after that. I'll

use a dateline to make things simpler.

October 10, 2005: Started use of Fish oil. Some language improvment seen.

Lots of stimming improvement.

Nov. 5, 2005: Officially diagnosed with ASD. Started use of CarnAware.

Started to see more language.

Nov. 20 -- Added vitamin C & E liquid to diet.

Dec. 2 -- began GF/CF diet. Within 2 days, started fluctuating between

constipation and diarhea -- mostly constipation. We used pears and prunes to

attack the constipation. Next, he started spitting every now and then.

Dec. 3 -- 1st visit to DAN Dr.

Dec. 10 -- started Methy B-12. He seems to be a mild-moderate responder

Today -- Hasan is salivating alot! This has gone on now since the start of

GF/CF diet -- is that a coincedence? Spits on floors, hands, clothes etc. For

the past 2 days, he has occassional vomiting which is not normal for him.

Now my question:

Can a GF/CF diet cause stomach issues like this? Can a GF/CF diet cause

spitting and vomiting? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a yeast infection or leaky

gut? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a virus?

The DAN doctor has next put my son on a massive multiviatmin to " feed his

starving brain " . What should I do? Should I start my son on enzymes and

probiotics NOW?

HELP!

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" withdrawal symptoms from the opiods " I will look into that further. Spitting

has been going on for over a month. The nausea has been going on for a few

days. He takes the injectable form of MB-12. Vitamins are not yet in the

picture.

When your son was mouthing objects and spitting, was he taking probiotics or

enzymes? I am guessing that these will help him.

Thanks.

Missy Nadeau <missynadeau@...> wrote:

You may be seeing withdrawal symptoms from the opiods. Also, check to

see if this might be a responder sign of MB-12 . Are you giving him

injections or in oral form? It's possible that he is feeling things

that he never had before because of improvement. i.e. new senses Have

you added any other vitamin or supplement? Zinc made my son vomit. My

son, Drew, actually did a lot of mouthing of objects and drooling when

first starting the diet and especially the injections. This is a

positive-negative. He would come home from school with his shirt

sleeves and chest soaked. It eventually stopped. I want to say maybe a

month or two?

Missy Nadeau

Son, Drew, 8 years old

Now starting to read, ride a two-wheeler, pretend play, and interact

with peers thanks to Chelation

[ ] Can a GF/CF Diet Cause Spitting and Vomitting?

Please Advise.

OK, here's my problem. My son, who just turned 5 was diagnosed with ASD

in November of last year. We started to see a DAN doctor soon after

that. I'll use a dateline to make things simpler.

October 10, 2005: Started use of Fish oil. Some language improvment

seen. Lots of stimming improvement.

Nov. 5, 2005: Officially diagnosed with ASD. Started use of

CarnAware. Started to see more language.

Nov. 20 -- Added vitamin C & E liquid to diet.

Dec. 2 -- began GF/CF diet. Within 2 days, started fluctuating

between constipation and diarhea -- mostly constipation. We used pears

and prunes to attack the constipation. Next, he started spitting every

now and then.

Dec. 3 -- 1st visit to DAN Dr.

Dec. 10 -- started Methy B-12. He seems to be a mild-moderate

responder

Today -- Hasan is salivating alot! This has gone on now since the

start of GF/CF diet -- is that a coincedence? Spits on floors, hands,

clothes etc. For the past 2 days, he has occassional vomiting which is

not normal for him.

Now my question:

Can a GF/CF diet cause stomach issues like this? Can a GF/CF diet

cause spitting and vomiting? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a yeast

infection or leaky gut? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a virus?

The DAN doctor has next put my son on a massive multiviatmin to " feed

his starving brain " . What should I do? Should I start my son on

enzymes and probiotics NOW?

HELP!

Dec.

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> He is mainly on rice. He has not started the vitamins yet. I am

going to ask my DAN Dr. about the enzymes and probiotics. Also, I'm

going to look into something to treat bacteria.

Rice feeds yeast. And my son did not tolerate rice, it was a worse

intolerance than gluten or casein.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Foods from jars also may contain aluminum (from the lid). If I were

you, I would work towards getting your child on good non-jar food,

organic where possible, with a wider variety of stuff.

GF/CF does not mean yeast free. After going down this road, I am

more inclined to give my son a good basic diet and learn to manage

yeast through the chelation/anti-viral process than to deprive him of

stuff. If there are signs that things need to be addressed

(constipation, diahrrea, gas, yada yada, blood work) and that are not

being managed with enzymes, I would take that to heart. Just my .02,

as I consider how to get my kid un-CF amidst all of this.

Anne

Anne

>

> > His diet is now mainly several forms of rice, eggs & fruit from

baby jars.

>

> No offense, but I think I would probably die if I was to eat just

rice and fruits... (how many eggs could you eat anyway).

> I am not trying to discourage you from doing the diet. I actually

believe that rice is a very good nutrient. But I am a non-believer in

such diets.

>

> Foods from jars might contain different preservatives/additives.

>

>

> Valentina

>

[Guest guest]

He eats some meats -- chicken & lamb -- not too much. He gets fish oil daily

for the fatty acids.

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote: > His diet is now mainly

several forms of rice, eggs & fruit from baby jars.

I forgot to ask... is he getting any fats at all in his diet? (other than the

eggs)

Valentina

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[Guest guest]

I don't really know the answers to your questions, but I believe a diet that

excludes so many foods could probably cause a lot of problems. I imagine your

son might easily become deficient in certain nutrients.

What is he eating?

Valentina

> Dec. 2 -- began GF/CF diet. Within 2 days, started fluctuating between

constipation and diarhea -- mostly constipation. We used pears and prunes to

attack the constipation. Next, he started spitting every now and then.

>

> Dec. 10 -- started Methy B-12. He seems to be a mild-moderate responder

>

> Today -- Hasan is salivating alot! This has gone on now since the start of

GF/CF diet -- is that a coincedence? Spits on floors, hands, clothes etc. For

the past 2 days, he has occassional vomiting which is not normal for him.

>

>

> Now my question:

>

> Can a GF/CF diet cause stomach issues like this? Can a GF/CF diet cause

spitting and vomiting? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a yeast infection or leaky

gut? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a virus?

[Guest guest]

> His diet is now mainly several forms of rice, eggs & fruit from baby jars.

No offense, but I think I would probably die if I was to eat just rice and

fruits... (how many eggs could you eat anyway).

I am not trying to discourage you from doing the diet. I actually believe that

rice is a very good nutrient. But I am a non-believer in such diets.

Foods from jars might contain different preservatives/additives.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> His diet is now mainly several forms of rice, eggs & fruit from baby jars.

I forgot to ask... is he getting any fats at all in his diet? (other than the

eggs)

Valentina

[Guest guest]

Yes, he was and is taking probiotics and enzymes. I know withdrawal can

bring some strange things. My son was bouncing off the walls and an

emotional basket case!

Missy

[ ] Can a GF/CF Diet Cause Spitting and Vomitting?

Please Advise.

OK, here's my problem. My son, who just turned 5 was diagnosed with ASD

in November of last year. We started to see a DAN doctor soon after

that. I'll use a dateline to make things simpler.

October 10, 2005: Started use of Fish oil. Some language improvment

seen. Lots of stimming improvement.

Nov. 5, 2005: Officially diagnosed with ASD. Started use of

CarnAware. Started to see more language.

Nov. 20 -- Added vitamin C & E liquid to diet.

Dec. 2 -- began GF/CF diet. Within 2 days, started fluctuating

between constipation and diarhea -- mostly constipation. We used pears

and prunes to attack the constipation. Next, he started spitting every

now and then.

Dec. 3 -- 1st visit to DAN Dr.

Dec. 10 -- started Methy B-12. He seems to be a mild-moderate

responder

Today -- Hasan is salivating alot! This has gone on now since the

start of GF/CF diet -- is that a coincedence? Spits on floors, hands,

clothes etc. For the past 2 days, he has occassional vomiting which is

not normal for him.

Now my question:

Can a GF/CF diet cause stomach issues like this? Can a GF/CF diet

cause spitting and vomiting? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a yeast

infection or leaky gut? Can a GF/CF diet " wake-up " a virus?

The DAN doctor has next put my son on a massive multiviatmin to " feed

his starving brain " . What should I do? Should I start my son on

enzymes and probiotics NOW?

HELP!

Dec.

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[Guest guest]

EFAs might help. I use Health from the Sun plant-based EFAs in liquid form

available at HFS. The fruit would feed the yeast.

S S

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>   His diet is now mainly several forms of rice, eggs & fruit from baby

jars.<BR>

<BR>

I forgot to ask... is he getting any fats at all in his diet? (other than the

eggs)<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

Valentina<BR>

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