Re: Epsom Baths

[Guest guest]

Hiya Helen

Try a warm bath rather than a hot one. Add some olive oil or coconut oil to

the water. And, when you get out of the tub, rub some nice coconut oil all

over your skin.

Increase healthy fats in your diet, too.

Hope this helps

mjh

In a message dated 12/22/2005 6:42:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

helenjora@... writes:

I have a question about these, would like to do them, but right now I

am having this problem with taking baths in that my skin has gotten

so dry I lie awake itching at night if I take a bath that day and

can't sleep. I like to soak in the tub to get warm in the winter, and

for my muscle aches, but it seems to really dry my skin.

Also hot baths are bad for my heart, Cheney warned me about getting

overheated years ago, something about cytokine production which I

don't quite understand but I think it makes the immune system rev up

and then you get symptoms from that. I have gotten slammed a few

times from being in the hot sun and taking hot baths, so I know he's

right about that. But oh the allure of the bathtub when I'm cold and

aching...

I have always hated to take showers and now I know it's probably

because of the orthostatic intolerance heart problem, standing up

bothers me. So it looks like sink baths for me, or back to the

medieval era of bathing once a year.

Would there be anything I could put in there with the Epsom salts to

help my dry skin?

thanks,

Helen

mjh

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[Guest guest]

helen9jora wrote:

> Also hot baths are bad for my heart, Cheney warned me about getting

> overheated years ago, something about cytokine production which I

> don't quite understand but I think it makes the immune system rev up

> and then you get symptoms from that. I have gotten slammed a few

> times from being in the hot sun and taking hot baths, so I know he's

> right about that. But oh the allure of the bathtub when I'm cold and

> aching...

I can't take hot baths any more as they really wipe me out. And warm

baths leave me feeling chilled.

My solution is to take a hot bath while sipping cold water, and to have

a washcloth with a little basin of cold water nearby so I can drape the

cold, wet washrag over the top of my head, or mop my face and neck with

it. You can also regulate your body temperature somewhat by putting

something chilled on the insides of your wrists where all the blood

vessels show close to the skin.

Plus I do stay out of the sun, and of hot weather.

--

el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net)

" wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... "

[Guest guest]

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Hi,

I don't know about the shaking and crying specifically, my son

reacted by becoming very hyper when I gave him too much. Either way,

I believe that starting with 2 cups of epsom salts is quite a lot! At

the begining I gave a full cup and realized that he was detoxing too

fast and couldn't deal with it.

The recommendation given to me was to start with 1/4 of a cup and

work up slowly. Even tho my son tolerates the epsom salts fine now,

I don't think I have ever given my son 2 cups of it.

Stacey

In , " mandyandjayden "

<mandyandjayden@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

> I gave my son an epsom bath tonight with 2 cups of salts. I added

the

> first cup and he start to whine, and looked at me to pick him up. I

> kept him in the water and then he seemed fine. Playing, laughing,

etc.

> I added the second cup and he started to almost cry and his arms

were

> shaking. I was scared, I felt something was wrong. I got him out of

the

> tub and he was acting weird, staring at his toys fish like it was

the

> first time he saw colors. Obvioulsy it was too much for him, and I

know

> something went wrong, probably to much salts, but I noticed his

> ringworm came out on his chest while he was in the bath. Is this

him

> detoxing? It appeared there 2 weeks ago after his first two

epsom

> baths now its back.know why exactly he would react even if it was

to

> much salt for him? What is it that makes him feel bad and shake his

> arms like its hurting him? Is there a technical term for this? Any

> insight would be appreciated.Should I give him any baths or

> skip ,them? Mandy

>

[Guest guest]

I think your right, I read the files and it said 2 cups so I figured it

would be alright. Does anyone know that if he reacted this way if it

was detoxing? His ringworm appeared again, but then with him starting

to cry and shake his arms it worries me. Thanks for the advice. Never

giving 2 cups again!!

[Guest guest]

Valentina,

I thought of that too. However, after a few minutes of having him out

of the water. I held him over the water with just his feet beneath the

water. After about 30 seconds, he started to almost cry. Im searching

for information on this now. Obviously too much for him but, what is it

doing? He was weird for about a min after he came out of the water.

Thanks for the response. He was in the water when I added the salts

both times, and still reacted when they disolved. HMM Thanks Mandy

[Guest guest]

I gave him a few baths about 2 weeks ago. One time I saw him act weird

like tonight, but not severe. Tonight the big difference was he was in

the sink not bath. I dont know why I keep saying bath so there was

less water, 2 cups of salts. But the shaking and panic look and cry was

similar to how he react 1 time before when he touched the salts. Just

not this severe. Maybe this was a shock to his system if he is low in

sulfur? Sometimes I feel so terrible when I give him something and he

reacts badly. I just found a sulfurgroup at so Im thinking the

group might know the answer, seeing that its all about sulfur. Thanks

for the help Valentina. Mandy

[Guest guest]

> I gave my son an epsom bath tonight with 2 cups of salts. I added the

> first cup and he start to whine, and looked at me to pick him up. I

> kept him in the water and then he seemed fine. Playing, laughing, etc.

> I added the second cup and he started to almost cry and his arms were

> shaking.

Mandy, I don't know if this is the problem, but it happened to me, so I will

tell you anyway, just in case.

When I put the salts in the water when my son was already in the tub, I think

the salts dissolving felt weird on his skin. Also I think it went under his

body and it pricked his skin. He didn't like it either.

I would try to dissolve the salts in the water first and then allow your son

to take the bath.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> after a few minutes of having him out

> of the water. I held him over the water with just his feet beneath the

> water. After about 30 seconds, he started to almost cry.

Is he reacting this way every time, or just this one time?

Or maybe this is the first time you gave him an epsom salt bath?

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> so there was

> less water, 2 cups of salts.

I would say that this is too much salt.

I never tried that much, so I don't know how this feels, but I can tell you

for sure that the water (in a bath tub with a lot less salts) feels weird...

I don't know how to describe it, but something is definitely changed.

> Sometimes I feel so terrible when I give him something and he

> reacts badly.

You are such a good mother

At least this time, don't feel bad. Your son is fine. Even if let's say he

doesn't need these epsom baths, MgSO4 is really inoffensive. He will be fine,

really.

> I just found a sulfurgroup at so Im thinking the

> group might know the answer, seeing that its all about sulfur.

Yes, I've seen your message there. The group belongs to Owens. She is

good. She has a lot of knowledge about sulfur and sulfate.

> Thanks

> for the help Valentina.

You are very welcome. I wish I could help more... Anyway, just don't worry. I

think it was too much salt, but I think he will be fine.

Valentina