Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Unfrickin believable....well actually, not so much. May they rot.... 4/7/83 Additional language added to some Lilly labels: " As with any drug, if you are pregnant or nursing a baby, seek the advice of a health professional before using this product. " First Mercury Poisoning/Vaccine Law Suit Filed March 23, 2001 My daughter was born 4 days later....I feel so sick right now. See you all in Washington. --------- [sSRI-Research] Eli Lilly - Mercury Poisoning from Vaccines > known as early as April 1930 to be dangerous > > > Update on Mercury Poisoning from Vaccine > http://www.mercola.com/2002/mar/30/mercury_vaccine.htm > > The Dallas-based law firm of Waters & Kraus announced today that > it has received documents as a result of the discovery process in the > case of Counter v. Eli Lilly & Company, et al, currently pending in > Brazoria County, Texas that come from the archives of Eli Lilly & Company. > > The documents clearly demonstrate that Lilly's thimerosal > product, the mercury-based vaccine preservative implicated in a number > of recent law suits as causing neurological injury to infants, was > known as early as April 1930 to be dangerous. > > In its apparent eagerness to promote and market the product, in > September, 1930, Eli Lilly secretly sponsored a " human toxicity " study > on patients already known to be dying of meningococcal meningitis. > Senior partner Waters stated that, " Lilly then cited this study > repeatedly for decades as proof that thimerosal was of low toxicity > and harmless to humans. > > They never revealed to the scientific community or the public > the highly questionable nature of the original research. " > > While Eli Lilly made every effort to corrupt the medical and > scientific literature, the process of arranging to publish the results > of its questionable secret study, other researchers have provided > Lilly with numerous articles since the 1930's indicating concerns > about thimerosal and its potential hazard to humans who might be > exposed or injected with the substance. > > The evidence clearly demonstrates that Eli Lilly was advised > repeatedly that their conclusions of low toxicity were not warranted > and that they failed to pass the information on to appropriate federal > and public health authorities. The following time line illustrates > some, but by no means all, of the documentary evidence on this point > from Lilly's internal files: > > 1947 Article received by Lilly: " No eruptions or reactions have > been observed or reported to merthiolate internally, but it may be > dangerous to inject a serum containing merthiolate into a patient > sensitive to merthiolate. " > > 1948 Article received by Lilly: " Merthiolate is such a commonly > used preservative for biologicals, plasma, cartilage, etc., that it > would seem important to determine whether harm would result following > its subcutaneous or intravenous injection in skin sensitive individuals. " > > 1950 New York Academy of Science article, " Mercurials as > Antiseptics: " " It (merthiolate) is toxic when injected parenterally > and therefore cannot be used in chemotherapy. " > > 1963 Article received by Lilly: " There is another point of > practical significance: does the parenteral injection of > merthiolate-containing fluids cause disturbances in > merthiolate-sensitive patients? " " It is known that persons that are > contact sensitive to a drug may tolerate the same medications > internally, but it seems advisable to use a preservative other than > merthiolate for injections in merthiolate-sensitive people. " > > 8/17/67 Medical/Science department requests that the claim > " non-toxic " on thimerosal labels be deleted in next printing run. > > 8/29/67 Draft label changed to " non-irritating to body tissues, " > nontoxic omitted. > > 1972 British Medical Journal reports case of skin burns > resulting from the chemical interaction of thimerosal and aluminum. > " Mercury is known to act as a catalyst and to cause aluminum to > oxidize rapidly, with the production of heat. " " The manufacturers who > supply us with thimerosal have been informed. " [Thimerosal is being > used in vaccines which also contain aluminum]. > > 1972 Article received by Lilly: Merthiolate in vaccines caused > six deaths - " The symptoms and clinical course of the six patients > suggest subacute mercury poisoning. " > > 4/27/76 Lilly responds to Rexall Drug Company's efforts to place > the following warning on Merthiolate product: " Frequent or prolonged > use or application to large areas may cause mercury poisoning. " Lilly > objects to this proposed warning, stating: > > " We object to the connection of our trademark with the > unjustified alarm and concern on the part of the user which the > statement is likely to cause. . We are not aware of any instance of > 'mercury poisoning' after decades of marketing this product. This is > because the mercury in the product is organically bound ethylmercury > as a completely nontoxic nature, not methylmercury. " > > 1/5/82 FDA's advance notice of proposed rule making regarding > thimerosal: > > " At the cellular level, thimerosal has been found to be more > toxic for human epithelial cells in vitro than mercuric chloride, > mercuric nitrate, and merbromim (mercurichrom). " " It was found to be > 35.3 times more toxic for embryonic chick heart tissue than for > staphylococcus areus. " 1950 study showed that thimerosal was no better > than water in protecting mice from potential fatal streptococcal > infection. " > > " The Panel concludes that thimerosal is not safe for OTC topical > use because of its potential for cell damage if applied to broken skin > and its allergy potential. It is not effective as a topical > antimicrobial because its bacteriastatic action can be reversed. " > > 4/7/83 Additional language added to some Lilly labels: " As with > any drug, if you are pregnant or nursing a baby, seek the advice of a > health professional before using this product. " > > 1991 Lilly ceases manufacture/sale of thimerosal. Licensing > agreements demonstrate continued profits from the product until at > least 2010. > > 12/8/99 Lilly MSDS regarding thimerosal: > > " Primary Physical & Reproduction Effects: Nervous System and > Reproduction Effects " > > " Effects of exposure include fetal changes. > > " Mercury poisoning may occur. " > > " Exposure in children may cause mild to severe mental > retardation.... " > > " Hypersensitivity to mercury is a medical condition aggravated > by exposure. " > > CERCLA Hazardous substance - toxic waste disposal. > > Waters & Kraus is litigating a growing number of individual > cases across the country involving infants that sustained serious > neurological injuries from the thimerosal contained in their pediatric > vaccines. Waters & Kraus is leading the following coalition of firms > in bringing these cases to trial. > > Additional inquiries should be addressed to Miles at > Waters & Kraus (Dallas), (214) 357-6244 or miles@... > > Potential claimants should call Bothwell at Waters & > Kraus (California), (562) 436-8833 or bothwell@... > > March 17, 2002 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dr. Mercola's Comment: > > Even minute amounts of mercury can cause nerve damage that is > related to Alzheimers' disease, so it is truly amazing that modern > medicine continues to push mercury-containing vaccines. > > If you know anyone who has been damaged by vaccines you might > want to forward them this information. > > Mercury is also a common environmental contaminant, often coming > from power plants and incinerators. > > Related Articles: > > First Mercury Poisoning/Vaccine Law Suit Filed March 23, 2001 > > Lawsuit Filed for Mercury in Vaccines Causing Autism > > > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest > of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 In a message dated 26/03/2006 22:33:04 GMT Daylight Time, AndyCutler@... writes: > > 1972 British Medical Journal reports case of skin burns > > resulting from the chemical interaction of thimerosal and aluminum. > > "Mercury is known to act as a catalyst and to cause aluminum to > > oxidize rapidly, with the production of heat." "The manufacturers who > > supply us with thimerosal have been informed." [Thimerosal is being > > used in vaccines which also contain aluminum]. This is exceptionally misleading.Vaccines contain aluminum oxide. That is not aluminum and it does notgenerate heat on further oxidation.False innuendo like this make it really easy for the thimerosalpromoters to cast doubt upon arguments that thimerosal is toxic.Please bring this to the attention of all responsible parties at therelevant law firms or in the press so it won't propagate.Andy > > 1972 British Medical Journal reports case of skin burns > > resulting from the chemical interaction of thimerosal and aluminum. > > " Mercury is known to act as a catalyst and to cause aluminum to > > oxidize rapidly, with the production of heat. " " The manufacturers who > > supply us with thimerosal have been informed. " [Thimerosal is being > > used in vaccines which also contain aluminum]. This is exceptionally misleading. Vaccines contain aluminum oxide. That is not aluminum and it does not generate heat on further oxidation. False innuendo like this make it really easy for the thimerosal promoters to cast doubt upon arguments that thimerosal is toxic. Please bring this to the attention of all responsible parties at the relevant law firms or in the press so it won't propagate. Andy ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 > > 1972 British Medical Journal reports case of skin burns > > resulting from the chemical interaction of thimerosal and aluminum. > > " Mercury is known to act as a catalyst and to cause aluminum to > > oxidize rapidly, with the production of heat. " " The manufacturers who > > supply us with thimerosal have been informed. " [Thimerosal is being > > used in vaccines which also contain aluminum]. This is exceptionally misleading. Vaccines contain aluminum oxide. That is not aluminum and it does not generate heat on further oxidation. False innuendo like this make it really easy for the thimerosal promoters to cast doubt upon arguments that thimerosal is toxic. Please bring this to the attention of all responsible parties at the relevant law firms or in the press so it won't propagate. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 > > 1972 Article received by Lilly: Merthiolate in vaccines caused > > six deaths - " The symptoms and clinical course of the six patients > > suggest subacute mercury poisoning. " Woiuld anyone happen to have a copy of this article, or enough of a citation so I can go find it? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 > > 1972 Article received by Lilly: Merthiolate in vaccines caused > > six deaths - " The symptoms and clinical course of the six patients > > suggest subacute mercury poisoning. " Woiuld anyone happen to have a copy of this article, or enough of a citation so I can go find it? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 > > > > 1972 Article received by Lilly: Merthiolate in vaccines caused > > > six deaths - " The symptoms and clinical course of the six patients > > > suggest subacute mercury poisoning. " > > Woiuld anyone happen to have a copy of this article, or enough of a > citation so I can go find it? > > Andy > Andy, Here is a link to a site that posted this information. It is a law firm that obtained internal information from Eli Lilly. http://www.rense.com/general21/vacc.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 The three types of aluminum used in vaccines are -- 1. aluminum hydroxide 2. aluminum phosphate 3. potassium aluminum sulphate (alum) Aluminum oxide is not used in vaccines (that I'm aware of). andrewhallcutler wrote: > > > 1972 British Medical Journal reports case of skin burns > > >>>resulting from the chemical interaction of thimerosal and aluminum. >>> " Mercury is known to act as a catalyst and to cause aluminum to >>>oxidize rapidly, with the production of heat. " " The manufacturers who >>>supply us with thimerosal have been informed. " [Thimerosal is being >>>used in vaccines which also contain aluminum]. >>> >>> > >This is exceptionally misleading. > >Vaccines contain aluminum oxide. That is not aluminum and it does not >generate heat on further oxidation. > >False innuendo like this make it really easy for the thimerosal >promoters to cast doubt upon arguments that thimerosal is toxic. > >Please bring this to the attention of all responsible parties at the >relevant law firms or in the press so it won't propagate. > >Andy > > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 How confusing. I just avoid any aluminum these days. No matter how " safe " it might be. > > > > > 1972 British Medical Journal reports case of skin burns > > > > > >>>resulting from the chemical interaction of thimerosal and aluminum. > >>> " Mercury is known to act as a catalyst and to cause aluminum to > >>>oxidize rapidly, with the production of heat. " " The manufacturers who > >>>supply us with thimerosal have been informed. " [Thimerosal is being > >>>used in vaccines which also contain aluminum]. > >>> > >>> > > > >This is exceptionally misleading. > > > >Vaccines contain aluminum oxide. That is not aluminum and it does not > >generate heat on further oxidation. > > > >False innuendo like this make it really easy for the thimerosal > >promoters to cast doubt upon arguments that thimerosal is toxic. > > > >Please bring this to the attention of all responsible parties at the > >relevant law firms or in the press so it won't propagate. > > > >Andy > > > > > > > > > > > >======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Andy, First off, I want to say I'm not trying to be difficult here, as I greatly respect your research and opinions, and have bought several copies of your book, but I have a few thoughts and would appreciate any comment. Years ago my group did research that concluded aluminum as beneficial to humans normally and appeared in soil naturally at about 8%. Unfortunately, we also concluded that mercury (which doesn't appear normally in the earths topsoil until we mixed things up) has a high energy reaction with aluminum that is a primary contributor to alzheimers and other conditions. As you say, I understand that outside of the human body in a controlled environment you can take a highly oxidized aluminum rod and touch it to a drop of mercury in a test tube without much reaction. However, add a drop or two of hydrochloric acid (HCL) and water to the tube and it will remove the oxidation from the rod and a very strong reaction will occur as the mercury causes the rod to oxidize and burn into " feathery " strands. Seems to me since the human stomach contains HCL and mild HCL is always present in the outer sweat of skin that a similar reaction might occur in the body. As an example, you can take aluminum foil, which always has a small oxidation layer on it, and break a mercury thermometer onto it and it burns holes right through it. Looks like swiss cheese like alzheimers brain tissue. Why doesn''t the oxidation stop it? Another example is electrical activity, certainly the mild chlorides in the mouth (ph 6.4 on average) will remove oxidation and increase the reaction with amalgam, as anyone who has ever bit down on aluminum foil while they still had amalgams will attest to. Likewise I have many articles talking about similar reactions with Merthiolate (thimerosal). For example one says " thimerosal is a common cause of skin destruction. In addition to its irritative properties, Merthiolate in contact with an aluminum dispersive electrode produces aluminum oxide and heat, leading to thermochemical burn (Health Devices, Vol. 2, p. 271) " So I guess what I'm thinking is that you are correct about the interaction in a lab environment or in the vaccine, but once on the skin or in the human body it might be quite a different story. I know personally I have been exposed to large amounts of mercury, and even placing a sheet of aluminum foil on my head causes burning all over my head. Cheers, _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of andrewhallcutler Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since 1930 !! > > 1972 British Medical Journal reports case of skin burns > > resulting from the chemical interaction of thimerosal and aluminum. > > " Mercury is known to act as a catalyst and to cause aluminum to > > oxidize rapidly, with the production of heat. " " The manufacturers who > > supply us with thimerosal have been informed. " [Thimerosal is being > > used in vaccines which also contain aluminum]. This is exceptionally misleading. Vaccines contain aluminum oxide. That is not aluminum and it does not generate heat on further oxidation. False innuendo like this make it really easy for the thimerosal promoters to cast doubt upon arguments that thimerosal is toxic. Please bring this to the attention of all responsible parties at the relevant law firms or in the press so it won't propagate. Andy ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Shoot, they find it in the Alzheimer patients brains. How safe does that sound?? M [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since 1930 !! How confusing. I just avoid any aluminum these days. No matter how " safe " it might be. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I avoid aluminum too, which is I think is critical when you have mercury, but here is another example of an element that occurs naturally in topsoil and that you get in almost all food that instead of being beneficial (aluminum clusters are used in the body and skin for thermal heat dissipation in conjuction with iodine) becomes a danger in the presence of mercury. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since 1930 !! Shoot, they find it in the Alzheimer patients brains. How safe does that sound?? M [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since 1930 !! How confusing. I just avoid any aluminum these days. No matter how " safe " it might be. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Our family as a whole will soon be using a non-flouride toothpaste, since flouride has aluminum in it. My 2 year old has been using a flouride free toothpaste for almost a year now. I think you can get it at most health food stores. Laurel > > I avoid aluminum too, which is I think is critical when you have mercury, > but here is another example of an element that occurs naturally in topsoil > and that you get in almost all food that instead of being beneficial > (aluminum clusters are used in the body and skin for thermal heat > dissipation in conjuction with iodine) becomes a danger in the presence of > mercury. > > > > _____ > > From: [mailto:Autism- Mercury ] > On Behalf Of > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:53 PM > > Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since > 1930 !! > > > Shoot, they find it in the Alzheimer patients brains. How safe does > that sound?? > M > > [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since > 1930 !! > > > How confusing. I just avoid any aluminum these days. No matter > how " safe " it might be. > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I agree, any science I have read states that mercury in the presence of aluminum is double duty bad! It is hard to beleive that something is ok because it is found in the soil. For example: mercury was not always present on the surface of the earth (meaning in the topsoil) until man dragged it up from the mines. You can find many things in the soil now that may not have been here 50,000 years ago, meaning they are here because we contaminated the soil but they were not meant to be in it. I know that some of the soil around here has to be removed in special metal drums by guys in special suites..I am not growing my tomatos in that! Sad to say but 50,000 years from now if man lasts he will find things in the soil too that were never meant to be in our body. Is there any nutritative or physiological usage for aluminum in the body? I do not recall learning of one, but I don't know everything either! I am always open to learning more on this. > > I avoid aluminum too, which is I think is critical when you have mercury, > but here is another example of an element that occurs naturally in topsoil > and that you get in almost all food that instead of being beneficial > (aluminum clusters are used in the body and skin for thermal heat > dissipation in conjuction with iodine) becomes a danger in the presence of > mercury. > > > > _____ > > From: [mailto:Autism- Mercury ] > On Behalf Of > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:53 PM > > Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since > 1930 !! > > > Shoot, they find it in the Alzheimer patients brains. How safe does > that sound?? > M > > [ ] Re: Mercury Poisoning in Vaccines known since > 1930 !! > > > How confusing. I just avoid any aluminum these days. No matter > how " safe " it might be. > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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