Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Interview or promotional ad? S S <BR> What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> <BR> <BR> There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main side<BR> effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will also<BR> rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect and<BR> 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product are<BR> directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the product,<BR> simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a day,<BR> and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker or<BR> hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there any<BR> explanation for that?<BR> <BR> <BR> Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or other<BR> toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to the<BR> body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins and<BR> wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become free<BR> to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of havoc,<BR> and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic-based<BR> and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their way<BR> out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the cage,<BR> it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very little<BR> damage–but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration and<BR> might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite has<BR> greater affinity for cadmium than for lead–so say, you pulled out a<BR> bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it would<BR> dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have some<BR> excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Now this is in a very small percent of the population–probably only<BR> about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of detox<BR> syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects of<BR> the toxins being shaken up in the body–kind of like stirring the pot,<BR> when everything is available and everything is out there, which makes<BR> it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but you<BR> will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is simply<BR> to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll feel<BR> much, much better, much quicker.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. Anne > > <BR> > What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main side<BR> > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will also<BR> > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect and<BR> > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product are<BR> > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the product,<BR> > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a day,<BR> > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker or<BR> > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there any<BR> > explanation for that?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or other<BR> > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to the<BR> > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins and<BR> > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become free<BR> > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of havoc,<BR> > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- based<BR> > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their way<BR> > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the cage,<BR> > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very little<BR> > damage–but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration and<BR> > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite has<BR> > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead–so say, you pulled out a<BR> > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it would<BR> > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have some<BR> > excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Now this is in a very small percent of the population–probably only<BR> > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of detox<BR> > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects of<BR> > the toxins being shaken up in the body–kind of like stirring the pot,<BR> > when everything is available and everything is out there, which makes<BR> > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but you<BR> > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is simply<BR> > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll feel<BR> > much, much better, much quicker.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Count me in on this. Enough! I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. Anne > > <BR> > What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main side<BR> > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will also<BR> > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect and<BR> > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product are<BR> > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the product,<BR> > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a day,<BR> > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker or<BR> > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there any<BR> > explanation for that?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or other<BR> > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to the<BR> > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins and<BR> > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become free<BR> > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of havoc,<BR> > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- based<BR> > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their way<BR> > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the cage,<BR> > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very little<BR> > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration and<BR> > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite has<BR> > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out a<BR> > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it would<BR> > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have some<BR> > excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Now this is in a very small percent of the population-probably only<BR> > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of detox<BR> > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects of<BR> > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the pot,<BR> > when everything is available and everything is out there, which makes<BR> > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but you<BR> > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is simply<BR> > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll feel<BR> > much, much better, much quicker.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Maybe everyone on the group should boycott purchasing NCD supplements since its obvious that the product cannot sell on its own merits and needs to be aggressively marketed to get sales. Nadia Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: Count me in on this. Enough! I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. Anne > > <BR> > What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main side<BR> > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will also<BR> > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect and<BR> > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product are<BR> > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the product,<BR> > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a day,<BR> > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker or<BR> > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there any<BR> > explanation for that?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or other<BR> > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to the<BR> > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins and<BR> > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become free<BR> > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of havoc,<BR> > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- based<BR> > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their way<BR> > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the cage,<BR> > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very little<BR> > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration and<BR> > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite has<BR> > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out a<BR> > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it would<BR> > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have some<BR> > excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Now this is in a very small percent of the population-probably only<BR> > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of detox<BR> > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects of<BR> > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the pot,<BR> > when everything is available and everything is out there, which makes<BR> > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but you<BR> > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is simply<BR> > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll feel<BR> > much, much better, much quicker.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 anneecbrynn <abrynn@...> wrote: I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. Anne Anne, I too have feelings on the marketing of this product NATURAL CELLULAR DEFENSE. I suppose that a statement from a television set would be more normal way of marketing a product, but then you might pay as much as twice to 3 times as much for the product.I myself am only trying to get useful information to people who may benefit from it. Let me tell you how I came to know this product. My father who is 85 years old and was a public servant the majority of his life, 15yrs as cheif of police and over 30 years as a volenteer firemen 10 as fire cheif. A retired rancher, land owner, and community orientated person. He has for approximately 1 1/2 years worked as the County Service Officer for the VA. He works 7 days a week helping veterans get what they have been not been getting and deserve. He has helped bring more than 1.5 million dollars to veterans that had not got help before. My father had grow weary from all the work and had became ashen in color. His skin cancer had gotten worse. And since 1985 had the feeling of cold hands and feet at all times. 30 days ago he started treating with NCD. His skin cancer since has started to diminish and get normal color in it. He color alone has become the color of the man I knew twenty-five years ago. His hands and feet are warm to the touch ( this comment comes from my daughter, 21 yrs old, that had just went to see her grandpa for the first time in four months. " Dad, I never remember grandpa with warm hands. " ) Marketing aside my friend, if the product works for one, it may work for others. I believe whole heatily that if I said nothing about this product I would be doing a mis-service. I do expect nay sayers and ridicule but hope to find some open minds, and 1 person that it can help. In the end I hope and pray that if NCD can help someone it will find it's way to them. Rest assured, I WILL answer any question that I can truthfuly, honestly, openly. If I myself do not know the answer I will search for it, if I can help but one person. in all sincerity J. Welke MYWAIORA.COM/932231 --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I would suppose it could be viewed in either light, but also as a way to get information to someone who may use it. bill Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote: Interview or promotional ad? S S What about side effects or contraindications? There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main side effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will also rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect and 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product are directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the product, simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a day, and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product. Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker or hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there any explanation for that? Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or other toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to the body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins and wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become free to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of havoc, and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic-based and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their way out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the cage, it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very little damage�but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration and might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite has greater affinity for cadmium than for lead�so say, you pulled out a bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it would dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have some excess lead that now is free to react. Now this is in a very small percent of the population�probably only about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of detox syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects of the toxins being shaken up in the body�kind of like stirring the pot, when everything is available and everything is out there, which makes it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but you will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is simply to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll feel much, much better, much quicker. ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 If you wish to boycott a product please do. If you wish not to give useful information please don't. If you wish to put down a product that is your choice. if you wish not to examine a product, don't. but please be aware the next time that you go buy your next car that aproximately $250 of the price that you will pay for your vehical will be spent on aggressive marketing. The cost for me to tell you about NCD, nothing but my time, and the price of the product is not raised for that time. You may, if you choose, buy NCD retail or wholesale, that too is your choice with reguards Bill INDEPENDANT WAIORA DISTRIBUTOR MYWAIORA.COM/932231 NADIA FIORE <nadiafiore@...> wrote: Maybe everyone on the group should boycott purchasing NCD supplements since its obvious that the product cannot sell on its own merits and needs to be aggressively marketed to get sales. Nadia Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: Count me in on this. Enough! I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. Anne > > <BR> > What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main side<BR> > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will also<BR> > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect and<BR> > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product are<BR> > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the product,<BR> > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a day,<BR> > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker or<BR> > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there any<BR> > explanation for that?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or other<BR> > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to the<BR> > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins and<BR> > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become free<BR> > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of havoc,<BR> > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- based<BR> > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their way<BR> > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the cage,<BR> > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very little<BR> > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration and<BR> > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite has<BR> > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out a<BR> > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it would<BR> > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have some<BR> > excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Now this is in a very small percent of the population-probably only<BR> > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of detox<BR> > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects of<BR> > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the pot,<BR> > when everything is available and everything is out there, which makes<BR> > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but you<BR> > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is simply<BR> > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll feel<BR> > much, much better, much quicker.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Last time I bought a new car I went to www.edmunds.com, checked out the dealer cost for the basics and all the options I wanted, added 3% to that, and offered that to the dealer. I held my ground and got the car for that price. And, of course, I only decided on what car I wanted after I did my due diligence - consumer reports, etc. That doesn't seem to be available to me with respect to your product. All that said, I don't know that your product is bad. I do know, however, that you are targeting a group that is sometimes seen to be desperate and vulnerable. It would be very nice to have a much fuller understanding of your product, which doesn't seem to be happening despite requests by listmembers. Anne > > > > <BR> > > What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side<BR> > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also<BR> > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and<BR> > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are<BR> > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product,<BR> > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day,<BR> > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or<BR> > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any<BR> > > explanation for that?<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other<BR> > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the<BR> > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and<BR> > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free<BR> > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc,<BR> > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based<BR> > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way<BR> > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage,<BR> > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little<BR> > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and<BR> > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has<BR> > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a<BR> > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would<BR> > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some<BR> > > excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- probably > only<BR> > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox<BR> > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of<BR> > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot,<BR> > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes<BR> > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you<BR> > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply<BR> > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel<BR> > > much, much better, much quicker.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > </tt> > > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > > > <br><br> > > <tt> > > =======================================================<BR> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I am glad that your father is doing better, and I hope that trend continues. Best, Anne I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. > > Anne > > > Anne, > > I too have feelings on the marketing of this product NATURAL CELLULAR DEFENSE. I suppose that > a statement from a television set would be more normal way of marketing a product, but then you might pay as much as twice to 3 times as much for the product.I myself am only trying to get useful information to people who may benefit from it. > > Let me tell you how I came to know this product. > > My father who is 85 years old and was a public servant the majority of his life, 15yrs as cheif of police and over 30 years as a volenteer firemen 10 as fire cheif. A retired rancher, land owner, and community orientated person. He has for approximately 1 1/2 years worked as the County Service Officer for the VA. He works 7 days a week > helping veterans get what they have been not been getting and deserve. He has helped bring more than 1.5 million dollars to veterans that had not got help before. > > My father had grow weary from all the work and had became ashen in color. His skin cancer had gotten worse. And since 1985 had the feeling of cold hands and feet at all times. > > 30 days ago he started treating with NCD. His skin cancer since has started to diminish and get normal color in it. He color alone has become the color of the man I knew twenty-five years ago. His hands and feet are warm to the touch ( this comment comes from my daughter, 21 yrs old, that had just went to see her grandpa for the first time in four months. > " Dad, I never remember grandpa with warm hands. " ) > > Marketing aside my friend, if the product works for one, it may work for others. I believe whole heatily that if I said nothing about this product I would be doing a mis-service. I do expect nay sayers and ridicule but hope to find some open minds, and 1 person that it can help. In the end I hope and pray that if NCD can help someone it will find it's way to them. > > Rest assured, I WILL answer any question that I can truthfuly, honestly, openly. If I myself do not know the answer I will search for it, if I can help but one person. > > in all sincerity > > > J. Welke > > MYWAIORA.COM/932231 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I can not speak for other new people but I am here by myself and any others that you might think are here to help me relate my knowledge of what I am saying in a far strech of your imagination. I have not nor ever will misrepresent anything. I can not nor will I speak for others. Bill Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: What I object to is the underhanded way people tried to sneak in here, pretend they were part of group and start talking about the product. Come on. Why do some people always overestimate their own intelligence and underestimate others. It was pretty lame. After the second post by the third new person, anyone who was paying attention was suspicious. Next time try just being honest, present the product and let people decide, don't try to trick people. It's demeaning......to you. Re: [ ] Re: here is the interview If you wish to boycott a product please do. If you wish not to give useful information please don't. If you wish to put down a product that is your choice. if you wish not to examine a product, don't. but please be aware the next time that you go buy your next car that aproximately $250 of the price that you will pay for your vehical will be spent on aggressive marketing. The cost for me to tell you about NCD, nothing but my time, and the price of the product is not raised for that time. You may, if you choose, buy NCD retail or wholesale, that too is your choice with reguards Bill INDEPENDANT WAIORA DISTRIBUTOR MYWAIORA.COM/932231 NADIA FIORE wrote: Maybe everyone on the group should boycott purchasing NCD supplements since its obvious that the product cannot sell on its own merits and needs to be aggressively marketed to get sales. Nadia Cochran wrote: Count me in on this. Enough! I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. Anne > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main side > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will also > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect and > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product are > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the product, > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a day, > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product. > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker or > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there any > explanation for that? > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or other > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to the > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins and > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become free > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of havoc, > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- based > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their way > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the cage, > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very little > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration and > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite has > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out a > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it would > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have some > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population-probably only > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of detox > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects of > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the pot, > when everything is available and everything is out there, which makes > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but you > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is simply > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll feel > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I believe whole heartedly that I have tried to answer all the questions posed to me and that I will continue to do so. I have also stated that NCD is realatively new, to me and the area of testing. Some of the replies I have made via private email so as to not bother anyone that has not asked for more information. I will continue to conduct matters in the most efficent and non overbearing way that I may. If it seems I am targeting this group for my personal gain and not for the intended purpose of actually helping someone that can be helped by NCD, I say but one thing to all. If at any time you wish to purchase this product no matter who you are and feel that I have misrepresent my intent, please go to someone elses site and get it from them. I will, without question, if you are able to get any use from NCD, be happy for you. I also agree that a fuller understanding of NCD needs to be there. As of now I have it not, but with due diligence I with certanty will gain that understanding and pass it along no matter which way the information may lead. Without regret, I remain J. Welke ps I am glad you got your car at the price you wanted and good job on the edmonds promotion anneecbrynn <abrynn@...> wrote: Last time I bought a new car I went to www.edmunds.com, checked out the dealer cost for the basics and all the options I wanted, added 3% to that, and offered that to the dealer. I held my ground and got the car for that price. And, of course, I only decided on what car I wanted after I did my due diligence - consumer reports, etc. That doesn't seem to be available to me with respect to your product. All that said, I don't know that your product is bad. I do know, however, that you are targeting a group that is sometimes seen to be desperate and vulnerable. It would be very nice to have a much fuller understanding of your product, which doesn't seem to be happening despite requests by listmembers. Anne > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product, > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day, > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product. > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any > > explanation for that? > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc, > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage, > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- probably > only > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot, > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Bill, Thanks for your response. I am sorry I am so suspicious of your product. I guess I feel like my kid was a lab experiment for the doctors who poisoned him, and now I am picking up the pieces. At this point I only want good science for him, not further experimentation, which is what I think NCD offers. Again, that is not to say it is not effective. I have no idea. I just know that there are very few people I trust on this journey and there have been no endorsements of NCD by the few people I do trust. That gives me cause for concern. Best, Anne > > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The > main > > side > > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it > will > > also > > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic > effect > > and > > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > > are > > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > > product, > > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water > a > > day, > > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the > product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little > sicker > > or > > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > > any > > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal > or > > other > > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available > to > > the > > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these > toxins > > and > > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules > become > > free > > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > > havoc, > > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or > diuretic- > > based > > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on > their > > way > > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside > the > > cage, > > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > > little > > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of > these > > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from > sequestration > > and > > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the > zeolite > > has > > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled > out > > a > > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > > would > > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > > some > > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- > probably > > only > > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > > detox > > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the > effects > > of > > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring > the > > pot, > > > > when everything is available and everything is out there, > which > > makes > > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, > but > > you > > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation > is > > simply > > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > > feel > > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I understand the guy's gotta make a living, but I run my own business from home..I however do not advertise it here. > > > > <BR> > > What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side<BR> > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also<BR> > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and<BR> > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are<BR> > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product,<BR> > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day,<BR> > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or<BR> > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any<BR> > > explanation for that?<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other<BR> > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the<BR> > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and<BR> > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free<BR> > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc,<BR> > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based<BR> > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way<BR> > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage,<BR> > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little<BR> > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and<BR> > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has<BR> > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a<BR> > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would<BR> > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some<BR> > > excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- probably > only<BR> > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox<BR> > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of<BR> > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot,<BR> > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes<BR> > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you<BR> > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply<BR> > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel<BR> > > much, much better, much quicker.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > </tt> > > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > > > <br><br> > > <tt> > > =======================================================<BR> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 thanks for the english lesson, thank goodness I just proved, to myself, again that I was human, One of these days I'll not make a misake and I can put myself on the level of ?, well those that don't make mistakes. Praise the lord I hope that never happens, to me it would mean I'm not trying very hard at this life I cherish so much. I must push my own envolope to its edges to expand my world. enough ranting by me yes I too believe that people are capable of finding their own info. I don't think a hint hurts either. Normally when I look for something online, before I find it I am side tracked many times. Sometimes to the point of that I forgot what I was looking for in the first place. All this information....it, just ties my hands. And here comes my pitch Take a look at Natural Cellular Defense If it might help you use it look here to begin with MYWAIORA.COM/93221 MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACRT ME AT MY EMAIL ADDRESS Trying to cut the path shorter J. Welke Jan <queenvavee@...> wrote: It's regards...not reguards I beleive. Personally I do not object to providing information about a product that may be useful..I think others would appreciate being open about that reason. You have to remember most of us here and our children are victims of " forceful marketing " from pharmaceutical companies and doctors, telling us what was good for our children, which in turn was poison. As a result, we would be a bit defensive about anyone " selling " something on a support message board. Most of us are very capable of searching the internet to find these products. In , william welke wrote: > > I can not speak for other new people but I am here by myself and any others that you might think are here to help me relate my knowledge of what I am saying in a far strech of your imagination. I have not nor ever will misrepresent anything. I can not nor will I speak for others. > > Bill > > Cochran wrote: What I object to is the underhanded way people tried to sneak in here, pretend they were part of group and start talking about the product. Come on. Why do some people always overestimate their own intelligence and underestimate others. > > It was pretty lame. After the second post by the third new person, anyone who was paying attention was suspicious. Next time try just being honest, present the product and let people decide, don't try to trick people. It's demeaning......to you. > > > Re: [ ] Re: here is the interview > > > If you wish to boycott a product please do. If you wish not to give useful information please don't. If you wish to put down a product that is your choice. if you wish not to examine a product, don't. but please be aware the next time that you go buy your next car that aproximately $250 of the price that you will pay for your vehical will be spent on aggressive marketing. > The cost for me to tell you about NCD, nothing but my time, and the price of the product is not raised for that time. You may, if you choose, buy NCD retail or wholesale, that too is your choice > > > with reguards > > > Bill > INDEPENDANT WAIORA DISTRIBUTOR > MYWAIORA.COM/932231 > > NADIA FIORE wrote: Maybe everyone on the group should boycott purchasing NCD supplements since its obvious that the product cannot sell on its own merits and needs to be aggressively marketed to get sales. > > Nadia > > Cochran wrote: > Count me in on this. Enough! > > > I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. > > Anne > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product, > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day, > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc, > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage, > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- probably > only > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot, > > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I wish I didn't have to work but I do.. not making a living from this product Bill Jan <queenvavee@...> wrote: I understand the guy's gotta make a living, but I run my own business from home..I however do not advertise it here. > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product, > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day, > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product. > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any > > explanation for that? > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc, > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage, > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- probably > only > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot, > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I forget, is this the product that Andy literally called " dirt? " Was it NCD that he called dirt? Re: [ ] Re: here is the interview > > > If you wish to boycott a product please do. If you wish not to give useful information please don't. If you wish to put down a product that is your choice. if you wish not to examine a product, don't. but please be aware the next time that you go buy your next car that aproximately $250 of the price that you will pay for your vehical will be spent on aggressive marketing. > The cost for me to tell you about NCD, nothing but my time, and the price of the product is not raised for that time. You may, if you choose, buy NCD retail or wholesale, that too is your choice > > > with reguards > > > Bill > INDEPENDANT WAIORA DISTRIBUTOR > MYWAIORA.COM/932231 > > NADIA FIORE wrote: Maybe everyone on the group should boycott purchasing NCD supplements since its obvious that the product cannot sell on its own merits and needs to be aggressively marketed to get sales. > > Nadia > > Cochran wrote: > Count me in on this. Enough! > > > I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. > > Anne > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product, > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day, > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc, > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage, > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- probably > only > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot, > > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Anne, If my opinon matters, I will be suspicious right along with you and commend you for your resolve. No experimenting was intended. ( I am not sure how to say it to make you feel my emoition on this). I wish I could put you in touch with that right person. AT this point I can't. I will continue to look. without dreams, we cannot acheive without suspicion, we cannot correll our dreams in safety Truly Bill anneecbrynn <abrynn@...> wrote: Bill, Thanks for your response. I am sorry I am so suspicious of your product. I guess I feel like my kid was a lab experiment for the doctors who poisoned him, and now I am picking up the pieces. At this point I only want good science for him, not further experimentation, which is what I think NCD offers. Again, that is not to say it is not effective. I have no idea. I just know that there are very few people I trust on this journey and there have been no endorsements of NCD by the few people I do trust. That gives me cause for concern. Best, Anne > > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The > main > > side > > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it > will > > also > > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic > effect > > and > > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > > are > > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > > product, > > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water > a > > day, > > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the > product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little > sicker > > or > > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > > any > > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal > or > > other > > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available > to > > the > > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these > toxins > > and > > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules > become > > free > > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > > havoc, > > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or > diuretic- > > based > > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on > their > > way > > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside > the > > cage, > > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > > little > > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of > these > > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from > sequestration > > and > > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the > zeolite > > has > > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled > out > > a > > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > > would > > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > > some > > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- > probably > > only > > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > > detox > > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the > effects > > of > > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring > the > > pot, > > > > when everything is available and everything is out there, > which > > makes > > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, > but > > you > > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation > is > > simply > > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > > feel > > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I guess I must have missed Andy's message but maybe you could enlighten Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: I forget, is this the product that Andy literally called " dirt? " Was it NCD that he called dirt? Re: [ ] Re: here is the interview > > > If you wish to boycott a product please do. If you wish not to give useful information please don't. If you wish to put down a product that is your choice. if you wish not to examine a product, don't. but please be aware the next time that you go buy your next car that aproximately $250 of the price that you will pay for your vehical will be spent on aggressive marketing. > The cost for me to tell you about NCD, nothing but my time, and the price of the product is not raised for that time. You may, if you choose, buy NCD retail or wholesale, that too is your choice > > > with reguards > > > Bill > INDEPENDANT WAIORA DISTRIBUTOR > MYWAIORA.COM/932231 > > NADIA FIORE wrote: Maybe everyone on the group should boycott purchasing NCD supplements since its obvious that the product cannot sell on its own merits and needs to be aggressively marketed to get sales. > > Nadia > > Cochran wrote: > Count me in on this. Enough! > > > I am NOT liking the marketing of this stuff AT ALL. > > Anne > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product, > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day, > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc, > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage, > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- probably > only > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot, > > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I strongly disagree, people are trying to help you, and if if you can not accept the fact that they are showing you something without TV ads then sorry for you, and best wishes > > > > <BR> > > What about side effects or contraindications?<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The main > side<BR> > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it will > also<BR> > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic effect > and<BR> > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the product > are<BR> > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking the > product,<BR> > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of water a > day,<BR> > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the product.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little sicker > or<BR> > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is there > any<BR> > > explanation for that?<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when metal or > other<BR> > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are available to > the<BR> > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these toxins > and<BR> > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules become > free<BR> > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds of > havoc,<BR> > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or diuretic- > based<BR> > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on their > way<BR> > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins inside the > cage,<BR> > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > little<BR> > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of these<BR> > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from sequestration > and<BR> > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the zeolite > has<BR> > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you pulled out > a<BR> > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, it > would<BR> > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might have > some<BR> > > excess lead that now is free to react.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population-probably > only<BR> > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > detox<BR> > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the effects > of<BR> > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like stirring the > pot,<BR> > > when everything is available and everything is out there, which > makes<BR> > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify faster, but > you<BR> > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation is > simply<BR> > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and you'll > feel<BR> > > much, much better, much quicker.<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > </tt> > > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > > > <br><br> > > <tt> > > =======================================================<BR> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Ho hum. Looks like the NCD people have us surrounded. 'I will NEVER surrender' ;0) J > > > > > > > > > Interview or promotional ad? > > > S S > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 lindajaytee <lindajaytee@...> wrote: Of course without question, my sole intent is to surround you, I am glad you pointed that out....... maybe someday someone will come along that doesn't try to surround you and you won't have to feel like you never will surrender. Hopefully you are already that strong. Faith in humans gives me me strength. The glory of seeing a new day is so precious that even the thought of not seeing my children, or me being part of their lives is sometimes more than I can bear. I only wish that someday that I can be so strong as never to feel anything. Then, truly I could actually live with myself long enough to surround (in a bad way) someone. if peace can be found, find it, where it lays Bill Ho hum. Looks like the NCD people have us surrounded. 'I will NEVER surrender' ;0) J > > > > > > > > > Interview or promotional ad? > > > S S > > > > ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I apologize if you mistook it as an " english lesson " . Being that you are representing yourself and your business, I didn't think you wanted to look unpolished. However, I will refrain from further assistance as it is not wanted. > > > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. The > main > > side > > > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, it > will > > also > > > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic > effect > > and > > > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the > product > > are > > > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking > the > > product, > > > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of > water a > > day, > > > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the > product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little > sicker > > or > > > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is > there > > any > > > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when > metal or > > other > > > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are > available to > > the > > > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these > toxins > > and > > > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those molecules > become > > free > > > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all kinds > of > > havoc, > > > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or > diuretic- > > based > > > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on > their > > way > > > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins > inside the > > cage, > > > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing very > > little > > > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of > these > > > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from > sequestration > > and > > > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the > zeolite > > has > > > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you > pulled out > > a > > > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, > it > > would > > > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might > have > > some > > > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- > probably > > only > > > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort of > > detox > > > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the > effects > > of > > > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like > stirring the > > pot, > > > > > when everything is available and everything is out there, > which > > makes > > > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify > faster, but > > you > > > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The recommendation > is > > simply > > > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and > you'll > > feel > > > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I am just me Jan, that will be the only image you will get. I did notice that I had mispelled " regards " after I had already posted, but to litlle to late ya know. Also, the tid bit about the english lesson was toungue in cheek. Sometime it is hard to show that online for me. I am far from an expert linguist. No offense was taken by it I hope. There was none meant. With reg " u " ards Bill MYWAIORA.COM/932231 Jan <queenvavee@...> wrote: I was not " giving an english lesson per say " it just looked funny spelled that way and as a business person selling a product you do not want to look unpolished. I will try to not to be so helpful as it is apparently not wanted. I can spell things wrongly as I do not have an image to maintain here as a sales rep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. > The > > main > > > side > > > > > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, > it > > will > > > also > > > > > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight diuretic > > effect > > > and > > > > > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the > > product > > > are > > > > > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're taking > > the > > > product, > > > > > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of > > water a > > > day, > > > > > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the > > product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a little > > sicker > > > or > > > > > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is > > there > > > any > > > > > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when > > metal or > > > other > > > > > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are > > available to > > > the > > > > > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take these > > toxins > > > and > > > > > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those > molecules > > become > > > free > > > > > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all > kinds > > of > > > havoc, > > > > > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or > > diuretic- > > > based > > > > > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage on > > their > > > way > > > > > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins > > inside the > > > cage, > > > > > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing > very > > > little > > > > > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some of > > these > > > > > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from > > sequestration > > > and > > > > > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, the > > zeolite > > > has > > > > > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you > > pulled out > > > a > > > > > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with cadmium, > > it > > > would > > > > > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might > > have > > > some > > > > > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- > > probably > > > only > > > > > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some sort > of > > > detox > > > > > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is the > > effects > > > of > > > > > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like > > stirring the > > > pot, > > > > > > > when everything is available and everything is out there, > > which > > > makes > > > > > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify > > faster, but > > > you > > > > > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The > recommendation > > is > > > simply > > > > > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and > > you'll > > > feel > > > > > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey no problem. I am cool here... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. > > The > > > main > > > > side > > > > > > > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, > > it > > > will > > > > also > > > > > > > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight > diuretic > > > effect > > > > and > > > > > > > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the > > > product > > > > are > > > > > > > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're > taking > > > the > > > > product, > > > > > > > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of > > > water a > > > > day, > > > > > > > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the > > > product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a > little > > > sicker > > > > or > > > > > > > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is > > > there > > > > any > > > > > > > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when > > > metal or > > > > other > > > > > > > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are > > > available to > > > > the > > > > > > > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take > these > > > toxins > > > > and > > > > > > > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those > > molecules > > > become > > > > free > > > > > > > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all > > kinds > > > of > > > > havoc, > > > > > > > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or > > > diuretic- > > > > based > > > > > > > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage > on > > > their > > > > way > > > > > > > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins > > > inside the > > > > cage, > > > > > > > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing > > very > > > > little > > > > > > > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some > of > > > these > > > > > > > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from > > > sequestration > > > > and > > > > > > > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, > the > > > zeolite > > > > has > > > > > > > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you > > > pulled out > > > > a > > > > > > > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with > cadmium, > > > it > > > > would > > > > > > > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might > > > have > > > > some > > > > > > > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- > > > probably > > > > only > > > > > > > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some > sort > > of > > > > detox > > > > > > > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is > the > > > effects > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like > > > stirring the > > > > pot, > > > > > > > > > when everything is available and everything is out > there, > > > which > > > > makes > > > > > > > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify > > > faster, but > > > > you > > > > > > > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The > > recommendation > > > is > > > > simply > > > > > > > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and > > > you'll > > > > feel > > > > > > > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey no problem. I am cool here... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about side effects or contraindications? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are very few side effects and contraindications. > > The > > > main > > > > side > > > > > > > > > effect is that as the body rids itself of these toxins, > > it > > > will > > > > also > > > > > > > > > rid itself of some water and so there's a slight > diuretic > > > effect > > > > and > > > > > > > > > 99% of the complaints that anybody might have on the > > > product > > > > are > > > > > > > > > directly the result of dehydration. So when you're > taking > > > the > > > > product, > > > > > > > > > simply drink more water. Drink eight to ten glasses of > > > water a > > > > day, > > > > > > > > > and there are very few (if any) side effects from the > > > product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people report that they begin to feel a > little > > > sicker > > > > or > > > > > > > > > hurt a little more when they first start using this. Is > > > there > > > > any > > > > > > > > > explanation for that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Certainly, classic detox syndromes are caused when > > > metal or > > > > other > > > > > > > > > toxins are freed up from sequestration and now are > > > available to > > > > the > > > > > > > > > body. And as I said before, the body tries to take > these > > > toxins > > > > and > > > > > > > > > wall them up with tissue or with fat. When those > > molecules > > > become > > > > free > > > > > > > > > to exchange with the environment, they can cause all > > kinds > > > of > > > > havoc, > > > > > > > > > and many detoxification products are laxative-based or > > > diuretic- > > > > based > > > > > > > > > and pull these toxins out and they do a lot of damage > on > > > their > > > > way > > > > > > > > > out, so you have these classic detox symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCD works differently. By sequestering the toxins > > > inside the > > > > cage, > > > > > > > > > it has very little exposure to the outside, so causing > > very > > > > little > > > > > > > > > damage-but if you're a highly toxic system, then some > of > > > these > > > > > > > > > elements, some of these molecules will be freed from > > > sequestration > > > > and > > > > > > > > > might exchange into and out of the cage. For example, > the > > > zeolite > > > > has > > > > > > > > > greater affinity for cadmium than for lead-so say, you > > > pulled out > > > > a > > > > > > > > > bunch of lead and then it came into contact with > cadmium, > > > it > > > > would > > > > > > > > > dislodge the lead in favor of the cadmium, so you might > > > have > > > > some > > > > > > > > > excess lead that now is free to react. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this is in a very small percent of the population- > > > probably > > > > only > > > > > > > > > about 1% of the people taking the product have some > sort > > of > > > > detox > > > > > > > > > syndrome because of it, and in essence all it is, is > the > > > effects > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the toxins being shaken up in the body-kind of like > > > stirring the > > > > pot, > > > > > > > > > when everything is available and everything is out > there, > > > which > > > > makes > > > > > > > > > it more available to the zeolite, so you can detoxify > > > faster, but > > > > you > > > > > > > > > will have some of these detox syndromes. The > > recommendation > > > is > > > > simply > > > > > > > > > to drink plenty of water, keep taking the product and > > > you'll > > > > feel > > > > > > > > > much, much better, much quicker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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