Re: Is xylitol or stevia better?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Beti - Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats (In

very large doses) so I would avoid it - even if you just use a small

amount. I'm not sure about xylitol - I've actually just gone back to

using good old sugar, without any disasterous results.

>

>

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> From: " Beti " <mbdpargun@...>

> Which one is healthier? I know xylitol is better for teeth, but

are

I have found several articles stating that xylitol is made in our

bodies. One source is http://www.laleva.cc/food/xylitol.html. Our

dentist recommends it highly because it's been proven to kill

bacteria in your mouth. I bake with it all the time and it has the

consistency of sugar.

I use Stevia all the time as well. This is the info I found about

the lab rats conflict. http://www.steviacanada.com/article1.asp

Organic agave has also been a good thing for us and we used organic

honey after yeast was under control.

Best to you,

Debbie

> there any concerns about its safety for our children? I've been

using

> stevia, but have been reading about more heatlh benefits of

xylitol.

> Just want to check though...

> Thanks so much for your feedback.

> Best,

> Beti

>

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[Guest guest]

debbiel3560@... wrote:

> Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats (In

> very large doses)

Do you know of a study on this?

Thanks,

Bob

[Guest guest]

debbiel3560@... wrote:

> Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats

This got my attention as stevia is the only sweetener that I know I

can tolerate, and use it daily. So, I researched this quickly and

did not find a study corroborating this, but did find one that says

the exact opposite:

Biol Pharm Bull. 2002 Nov;25(11):1488-90.

" Inhibitory effect of stevioside on tumor promotion by 12-O-

tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate in two-stage carcinogenesis in mouse

skin. "

Yasukawa K, Kitanaka S, Seo S.

College of Pharmacy, Nihon University, Chiba, Japan.

yasukawa@...

Four steviol (ent-kaurene-type diterpenoid) glycosides, stevioside,

rebaudiosides A and C, and dulcoside A, have been isolated from

Stevia rebaudiana BERTONI. These compounds showed strong inhibitory

activity against 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate (TPA)-induced

inflammation in mice. The 50% inhibitory dose of these compounds for

TPA-induced inflammation was 54.1-291.6 micro g/ear. Furthermore, at

1.0 and 0.1 mg/mouse of stevioside mixture, the mixture of these

compounds markedly inhibited the promoting effect of TPA (1 micro

g/mouse) on skin tumor formation initiated with 7,12-dimethylbenz[a]

anthracene (50 micro g/mouse).

Bob.

[Guest guest]

According to the herbalist I talked with stevia is the safests. It

is a natural sweetner made from the fiber of a Stevia leaf plant. I

have never heard any reference to it causing cancer. Unlike the

other sugar substitutes out there. Probably no more dangerous that

sugar. I know it has to be safer than saccharin, aspartame and

splenda.

>

> > Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats

>

> This got my attention as stevia is the only sweetener that I know

I

> can tolerate, and use it daily. So, I researched this quickly and

> did not find a study corroborating this, but did find one that

says

> the exact opposite:

>

> Biol Pharm Bull. 2002 Nov;25(11):1488-90.

>

> " Inhibitory effect of stevioside on tumor promotion by 12-O-

> tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate in two-stage carcinogenesis in

mouse

> skin. "

>

> Yasukawa K, Kitanaka S, Seo S.

>

> College of Pharmacy, Nihon University, Chiba, Japan.

> yasukawa@...

>

> Four steviol (ent-kaurene-type diterpenoid) glycosides,

stevioside,

> rebaudiosides A and C, and dulcoside A, have been isolated from

> Stevia rebaudiana BERTONI. These compounds showed strong

inhibitory

> activity against 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate (TPA)-

induced

> inflammation in mice. The 50% inhibitory dose of these compounds

for

> TPA-induced inflammation was 54.1-291.6 micro g/ear. Furthermore,

at

> 1.0 and 0.1 mg/mouse of stevioside mixture, the mixture of these

> compounds markedly inhibited the promoting effect of TPA (1 micro

> g/mouse) on skin tumor formation initiated with 7,12-dimethylbenz

[a]

> anthracene (50 micro g/mouse).

>

>

> Bob.

>

[Guest guest]

There was an article on the " Sciene for the Public Interest " website a couple of

years ago referencing the cancer study. I can't agree that just because

something comes from a plant that it's automatically safe - a lot of the most

toxic poisons on earth come from plants.

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From: " Jan " <queenvavee@...>

According to the herbalist I talked with stevia is the safests. It

is a natural sweetner made from the fiber of a Stevia leaf plant. I

have never heard any reference to it causing cancer. Unlike the

other sugar substitutes out there. Probably no more dangerous that

sugar. I know it has to be safer than saccharin, aspartame and

splenda.

>

> > Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats

>

> This got my attention as stevia is the only sweetener that I know

I

> can tolerate, and use it daily. So, I researched this quickly and

> did not find a study corroborating this, but did find one that

says

> the exact opposite:

>

> Biol Pharm Bull. 2002 Nov;25(11):1488-90.

>

> " Inhibitory effect of stevioside on tumor promotion by 12-O-

> tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate in two-stage carcinogenesis in

mouse

> skin. "

>

> Yasukawa K, Kitanaka S, Seo S.

>

> College of Pharmacy, Nihon University, Chiba, Japan.

> yasukawa@...

>

> Four steviol (ent-kaurene-type diterpenoid) glycosides,

stevioside,

> rebaudiosides A and C, and dulcoside A, have been isolated from

> Stevia rebaudiana BERTONI. These compounds showed strong

inhibitory

> activity against 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate (TPA)-

induced

> inflammation in mice. The 50% inhibitory dose of these compounds

for

> TPA-induced inflammation was 54.1-291.6 micro g/ear. Furthermore,

at

> 1.0 and 0.1 mg/mouse of stevioside mixture, the mixture of these

> compounds markedly inhibited the promoting effect of TPA (1 micro

> g/mouse) on skin tumor formation initiated with 7,12-dimethylbenz

[a]

> anthracene (50 micro g/mouse).

>

>

> Bob.

>

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[Guest guest]

The big issue with stevia is quality. If the growing region is toxic, the

plant will be and therefore the sweetener will be as well. I saw some tests

done on some (not many) stevia products and there were heavy metals present.

Ask for the test results from the company you buy it from. If they aren't

overjoyed to give you the toxicity test results, look elsewhere.

Mark Schauss

www.markschauss.com

[ ] Re: Is xylitol or stevia better?

According to the herbalist I talked with stevia is the safests. It

is a natural sweetner made from the fiber of a Stevia leaf plant. I

have never heard any reference to it causing cancer. Unlike the

other sugar substitutes out there. Probably no more dangerous that

sugar. I know it has to be safer than saccharin, aspartame and

splenda.

>

> > Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats

>

> This got my attention as stevia is the only sweetener that I know

I

> can tolerate, and use it daily. So, I researched this quickly and

> did not find a study corroborating this, but did find one that

says

> the exact opposite:

>

> Biol Pharm Bull. 2002 Nov;25(11):1488-90.

>

> " Inhibitory effect of stevioside on tumor promotion by 12-O-

> tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate in two-stage carcinogenesis in

mouse

> skin. "

>

> Yasukawa K, Kitanaka S, Seo S.

>

> College of Pharmacy, Nihon University, Chiba, Japan.

> yasukawa@...

>

> Four steviol (ent-kaurene-type diterpenoid) glycosides,

stevioside,

> rebaudiosides A and C, and dulcoside A, have been isolated from

> Stevia rebaudiana BERTONI. These compounds showed strong

inhibitory

> activity against 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate (TPA)-

induced

> inflammation in mice. The 50% inhibitory dose of these compounds

for

> TPA-induced inflammation was 54.1-291.6 micro g/ear. Furthermore,

at

> 1.0 and 0.1 mg/mouse of stevioside mixture, the mixture of these

> compounds markedly inhibited the promoting effect of TPA (1 micro

> g/mouse) on skin tumor formation initiated with 7,12-dimethylbenz

[a]

> anthracene (50 micro g/mouse).

>

>

> Bob.

>

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[Guest guest]

This is the best source I have found. They are completely willing

to give you test results and also have some already formulated

products. For instance I add their lemon-lime to mineral water to

make " soda " for my kids. They also have a hot chocolate stevia that

my son likes (although I personally don't). They have powder,

liquid, and concentrated liquids.

http://www.stevitastevia.com/

Best regards,

Debbie

> >

> > > Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats

> >

> > This got my attention as stevia is the only sweetener that I

know

> I

> > can tolerate, and use it daily. So, I researched this quickly

and

> > did not find a study corroborating this, but did find one that

> says

> > the exact opposite:

> >

> > Biol Pharm Bull. 2002 Nov;25(11):1488-90.

> >

> > " Inhibitory effect of stevioside on tumor promotion by 12-O-

> > tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate in two-stage carcinogenesis in

> mouse

> > skin. "

> >

> > Yasukawa K, Kitanaka S, Seo S.

> >

> > College of Pharmacy, Nihon University, Chiba, Japan.

> > yasukawa@

> >

> > Four steviol (ent-kaurene-type diterpenoid) glycosides,

> stevioside,

> > rebaudiosides A and C, and dulcoside A, have been isolated from

> > Stevia rebaudiana BERTONI. These compounds showed strong

> inhibitory

> > activity against 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate (TPA)-

> induced

> > inflammation in mice. The 50% inhibitory dose of these compounds

> for

> > TPA-induced inflammation was 54.1-291.6 micro g/ear.

Furthermore,

> at

> > 1.0 and 0.1 mg/mouse of stevioside mixture, the mixture of these

> > compounds markedly inhibited the promoting effect of TPA (1

micro

> > g/mouse) on skin tumor formation initiated with 7,12-dimethylbenz

> [a]

> > anthracene (50 micro g/mouse).

> >

> >

> > Bob.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I am really curious where this study came from. I would like to read

it. I do agree with any plant that it depends where it is grown.

However, search pubmed and there are no reported links to stevia and

cancer. Splenda..yes. I am sure xylitol is probably good too but

to say that stevia causes cancer...the evidence is not showing that.

Is steviocide even the same chemical?

> > >

> > > > Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats

> > >

> > > This got my attention as stevia is the only sweetener that I

> know

> > I

> > > can tolerate, and use it daily. So, I researched this quickly

> and

> > > did not find a study corroborating this, but did find one that

> > says

> > > the exact opposite:

> > >

> > > Biol Pharm Bull. 2002 Nov;25(11):1488-90.

> > >

> > > " Inhibitory effect of stevioside on tumor promotion by 12-O-

> > > tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate in two-stage carcinogenesis in

> > mouse

> > > skin. "

> > >

> > > Yasukawa K, Kitanaka S, Seo S.

> > >

> > > College of Pharmacy, Nihon University, Chiba, Japan.

> > > yasukawa@

> > >

> > > Four steviol (ent-kaurene-type diterpenoid) glycosides,

> > stevioside,

> > > rebaudiosides A and C, and dulcoside A, have been isolated

from

> > > Stevia rebaudiana BERTONI. These compounds showed strong

> > inhibitory

> > > activity against 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate (TPA)-

> > induced

> > > inflammation in mice. The 50% inhibitory dose of these

compounds

> > for

> > > TPA-induced inflammation was 54.1-291.6 micro g/ear.

> Furthermore,

> > at

> > > 1.0 and 0.1 mg/mouse of stevioside mixture, the mixture of

these

> > > compounds markedly inhibited the promoting effect of TPA (1

> micro

> > > g/mouse) on skin tumor formation initiated with 7,12-

dimethylbenz

> > [a]

> > > anthracene (50 micro g/mouse).

> > >

> > >

> > > Bob.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

Has anyone tried agave nector? It's really good. And has the

consistency of honey. It's from cactus. It doesn't affect the

glycemic index, so I would think it wouldn't aggravate yeast.

We use it as well as stevia and xylitol. All in moderation, of

course.

Splenda made my kidneys ache pretty bad. I read that when aspartame

gets broken down, it turns into formadehyde. Scary!

MY best,

Tami W

Gavin's mom

> > > >

> > > > > Stevia has been found to cause cancer in lab rats

> > > >

> > > > This got my attention as stevia is the only sweetener that I

> > know

> > > I

> > > > can tolerate, and use it daily. So, I researched this

quickly

> > and

> > > > did not find a study corroborating this, but did find one

that

> > > says

> > > > the exact opposite:

> > > >

> > > > Biol Pharm Bull. 2002 Nov;25(11):1488-90.

> > > >

> > > > " Inhibitory effect of stevioside on tumor promotion by 12-O-

> > > > tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate in two-stage carcinogenesis

in

> > > mouse

> > > > skin. "

> > > >

> > > > Yasukawa K, Kitanaka S, Seo S.

> > > >

> > > > College of Pharmacy, Nihon University, Chiba, Japan.

> > > > yasukawa@

> > > >

> > > > Four steviol (ent-kaurene-type diterpenoid) glycosides,

> > > stevioside,

> > > > rebaudiosides A and C, and dulcoside A, have been isolated

> from

> > > > Stevia rebaudiana BERTONI. These compounds showed strong

> > > inhibitory

> > > > activity against 12-O-tetradecanoylphorbol-13-acetate (TPA)-

> > > induced

> > > > inflammation in mice. The 50% inhibitory dose of these

> compounds

> > > for

> > > > TPA-induced inflammation was 54.1-291.6 micro g/ear.

> > Furthermore,

> > > at

> > > > 1.0 and 0.1 mg/mouse of stevioside mixture, the mixture of

> these

> > > > compounds markedly inhibited the promoting effect of TPA (1

> > micro

> > > > g/mouse) on skin tumor formation initiated with 7,12-

> dimethylbenz

> > > [a]

> > > > anthracene (50 micro g/mouse).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bob.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > =======================================================

> > >

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if agave nector has candida in it. Our dr. told us not to use

honey because it contains that bacteria.

M

>

> From: " Tami Wilken " <wtwilken@...>

> Date: 2006/02/23 Thu AM 10:05:55 EST

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Is xylitol or stevia better?

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