Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 > Also could I get some suggestions as to which is the best initial hair test before starting chelation and following chelation. Prior to chelation: DDI hair elements test. http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html Price listed is incorrect -- it has gone up -- but ask for discount given for either " autism treatment list " or " moria's website " . good wishes, Moria http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ Mercury Detox: Information, Tools, and Resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 DDI hair elements test with counting rules applied is the best hair test. You can order it through DLS (Direct Lab Services) without a doctor. If you mention this list they will give you a discount. Many with mercury issues have photosensitivity (pain or discomfort from bright light) so if the eye doctor is trying to shine his little light in the kid's eyes that could be hurting him. Do his eyes remain overly dilated regardless of ambient lighting? S S Has anyone been able to pinpoint cause of overly dialated pupils with a child who refuses to do anything but scream and cry during an eye exam? Please help, if I just had more ideas about what causes it, I think it has a lot to do with his visual stimming and I would like to help him more with it. We will be starting ALA soon, if that ofcourse will help. <BR> Also could I get some suggestions as to which is the best initial hair test before starting chelation and following chelation. <BR> I don't know what I'd do without all of you, THANK YOU.<BR> <BR> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Tina, I don't know about the dilated pupils exactly, although it is an issue we have here. I can say that with antivirals (OLE/Virastop/Valtrex), some chelation (still relative newbies at about 18 rounds of ALA/DMSA) and thyroid/adrenal support, the visual stimming is at a low and the pupils are tending towards the normal side of things. As far as hair tests go, you want to get a Doctor's Data hair test. Make sure you get the " Essential and Other Elements " test. If you don't have a doctor, you can get it through Direct Laboratory Services, Inc. Here is the link: http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php#hair Anne > > Has anyone been able to pinpoint cause of overly dialated pupils with a child who refuses to do anything but scream and cry during an eye exam? Please help, if I just had more ideas about what causes it, I think it has a lot to do with his visual stimming and I would like to help him more with it. We will be starting ALA soon, if that ofcourse will help. > Also could I get some suggestions as to which is the best initial hair test before starting chelation and following chelation. > I don't know what I'd do without all of you, THANK YOU. > > > --------------------------------- > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 > > Has anyone been able to pinpoint cause of overly dialated pupils This is one sign of mercury toxicity http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/vaccine/mercurylong.htm >>I think it has a lot to do with his visual stimming and I would like to help him more with it. What my son needed to eliminate his visual stims is here http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 > > Hi, > > it seems like my son could also have " photosensitivity " . He LOVEs the doctor's light (or used to, last time we went for a check up) but can't look into the sun at all. I guess bright light must be an issue for him at school also (but they accomodate this without me having to tell them, which is great). > > Anyhow, I would also like to know what others have to say about this, what supplements could be helpful with photosensitivity. > > Thank you so much in advance. > even after chelation, I am still quite " light sensitive " . In addition to not liking brightness (which I think is also partly due to contacts?), there are some kinds of florescents that drive me batty. There is an eye " exercise " called " sunning " which is supposed to help tremendously with the brightness sensitivity. You can probably find it on the web. I think I once posted brief directions (try onibasu " sunning " ). I also use eye drops that are homeopathic which supposedly help with light sensitivity-- it is one of the formulas made by Similasan (that's the brand). They are numbered. I'm not sure which one is the light sensitivity one-- I'm using a couple different ones right now. good wishes, Moria http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ Mercury Detox: Information, Tools, and Resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 -I never knew that! That would explain a lot. -- In , " danasview " <danasview@...> wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone been able to pinpoint cause of overly dialated pupils > > > This is one sign of mercury toxicity > > http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/vaccine/mercurylong.htm > > > >>I think it has a lot to do with his visual stimming and I would like > to help him more with it. > > > What my son needed to eliminate his visual stims is here > > http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I have photosensitivity pretty badly due to mercury. I do not know much about supplements to help it but I have noticed it improving as I have more mercury removed from my teeth. Food for thought I guess. As an insider with this I can tell you that most light is an issue. Sunlight, especially that yucky light in schools and offices. It makes it hard to read or keep my eyes open. Tinted glasses or sunglasses help. I do bet terrible headaches from bright light and an increase in irratibility. Keep that in mind for your little one. He too may become irritable when dealing with " too much light " > > Hi, > > it seems like my son could also have " photosensitivity " . He LOVEs the doctor's light (or used to, last time we went for a check up) but can't look into the sun at all. I guess bright light must be an issue for him at school also (but they accomodate this without me having to tell them, which is great). > > Anyhow, I would also like to know what others have to say about this, what supplements could be helpful with photosensitivity. > > Thank you so much in advance. > > > > > --------------------------------- > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Mercury affects the adrenals. The ability of the iris to remain contracted is, as I understand it, controlled by the adrenals. There is a simple test of holding a flashlight at the side of the face and shining at the bridge of the nose. If the adrenals are healthy the iris can remain contracted for about one minute. If the adrenals are overly stressed then the diameter of the pupil will waver in a short amount of time. I think this contributes to photosensitivity. The iris/flashlight test correlated to the ASI (Adrenal Stress Index - or 4x in one day saliva cortisol test) for our family. Supplementing with physiologic doses of cortisol or hydrocortisone has helped our family quite a lot. The adrenal support has also made a big difference in my DD's ability to cope everyday as well as helping deal with added stress... I recommend Jeffries, *Safe Uses Of Cortisol*, on the subject. hth, .... www.stopthethyroidmadness.com On 4/11/06, Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote: > > > DDI hair elements test with counting rules applied is the best hair > test. You can order it through DLS (Direct Lab Services) without a > doctor. If you mention this list they will give you a discount. Many with > mercury issues have photosensitivity (pain or discomfort from bright light) > so if the eye doctor is trying to shine his little light in the kid's eyes > that could be hurting him. Do his eyes remain overly dilated regardless of > ambient lighting? > S S > > > > Has anyone been able to pinpoint cause of overly dialated pupils with a > child who refuses to do anything but scream and cry during an eye exam? > Please help, if I just had more ideas about what causes it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 part of Dr. Megson statement to US Congress on April 6, 2000 about vitamin A deficiency in Autism <snip> This improves cognition, but they are still physically ill. When these children get the MMR vaccine, their Vitamin A stores are depleted; they cannot compensate for blocked pathways. Lack of Vitamin A that has been called " the anti-infective agent, " leaves them immuno-suppressed. They lack cell-mediated immunity. T-cell activation, important for long-term immune memory, requires 14-hydroxy retro-retinol. Using cod-liver oil, the only natural source of this natural substance, the children get well. The parasympathetic nervous system is blocked by the second G-protein defect. These children are unable to relax, focus, and digest their food. Instead, they are in sympathetic overdrive with a constant outpouring of adrenaline and stress hormones. They are anxious, pace, have dilated pupils, high-blood pressure, and a high, heart rate. These and other symptoms of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder are part of this constant " fright or flight " response. These symptoms improve on vitamin A and Bethanechol™. I live in a small, middle-class neighborhood with twenty-three houses. I recently counted thirty children who live in this community who are on medication for ADHD. One week ago, my oldest son, who is gifted but dyslexic, had twelve neighborhood friends over for dinner. As I looked around the table, all of these children, but one, had dilated pupils. After two-and-one-half months of taking vitamin A and D in cod-liver oil, my son announced, " I can read now. The letters don't jump around on the page anymore. " He is able to focus and his handwriting has improved dramatically. In his high school, for college-bound-dyslexic students, 68 of 70 teenagers report seeing headlights with starbursts, a symptom of congenital stationary night blindness! </snip> Dr. McGinnis offers these further observations about Bethanechol based on continuing experience: <snip> This is looking oh-so muscarinic (producing direct stimulation of smooth muscles, though in this usage he means the opposite— WSL)— big pupils (we are measuring them now— its easy with the graded circles, which can be drawn by hand in mm diameters, and held right alongside the eye), poor vision, bowel dysmotility with constipation and large-bore stools (diarrhea can stem from dysmotility, too, and of course even if they have a muscarinic block, the overgrowths and malabsorption may manifest as diarrhea), decreased sweating, and pallor. All this is consistent with low, muscarinic tone. There will be subgroups, but many of these autistic kids are looking clinically like muscarinic wipeout. Our assumption is that the CLO is building receptors, or otherwise favoring transmission so the Bethanechol can work. These kids really turn around like nothing I've ever seen or heard before, especially as a single intervention. They are fun, connected, social, " with-it " kids, with many waking-up age appropriate. First changes are sometimes immediate, sometimes a little later. Bowels... " <snip> (Taken from " Mastering Autism " ) Mark > Has anyone been able to pinpoint cause of overly dialated pupils with a child who refuses to do anything but scream and cry during an eye exam? Please help, if I just had more ideas about what causes it, I think it has a lot to do with his visual stimming and I would like to help him more with it. We will be starting ALA soon, if that ofcourse will help. > > Also could I get some suggestions as to which is the best initial hair test before starting chelation and following chelation. > > I don't know what I'd do without all of you, THANK YOU. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 My son had very large pupils until he had cranial sacral therapy. After one treatment, his pupils are of normal size (change with the light) and have stayed so ever since. Liz > Has anyone been able to pinpoint cause of overly dialated pupils with a child who refuses to do anything but scream and cry during an eye exam? Please help, if I just had more ideas about what causes it, I think it has a lot to do with his visual stimming and I would like to help him more with it. We will be starting ALA soon, if that ofcourse will help. > > Also could I get some suggestions as to which is the best initial hair test before starting chelation and following chelation. > > I don't know what I'd do without all of you, THANK YOU. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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