Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and Diverticulitis. For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram. From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I start LDN. Has anyone been through this? I would like information how best to dose down and off? Approximately how long will it take? Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do for that? How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? Or..... Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take over where the Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as pain relief? Is this hoping for too much? What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped Ultram? Thanks for any feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Hi , I will send you some saved chats regarding Pain & Ulcerative Colitis. I hope they will be helpful. My best Aletha [low dose naltrexone] Getting off ULTRAM I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and Diverticulitis.For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram.From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I start LDN.Has anyone been through this?I would like information how best to dose down and off?Approximately how long will it take?Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do for that?How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? Or.....Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take over where the Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as pain relief? Is this hoping for too much?What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped Ultram?Thanks for any feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I had generic Ultram for a short time. It said on the prescription bottle label that Ultram is Tramadol AND tylenol together. Tylenol is already in the Ultram. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "susanearly" <susanearly@...> I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and Diverticulitis.For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram.From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I start LDN.Has anyone been through this?I would like information how best to dose down and off?Approximately how long will it take?Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do for that?How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? Or.....Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take o ver where the Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as pain relief? Is this hoping for too much?What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped Ultram?Thanks for any feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Someone mentioned taking Kalawalla. What does that do and where can it be ordered. Thanks arlizotte@... wrote: I had generic Ultram for a short time. It said on the prescription bottle label that Ultram is Tramadol AND tylenol together. Tylenol is already in the Ultram. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "susanearly" <susanearly@...> I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and Diverticulitis.For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram.From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I start LDN.Has anyone been through this?I would like information how best to dose down and off?Approximately how long will it take?Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do for that?How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? Or.....Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take o ver where the Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as pain relief? Is this hoping for too much?What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped Ultram?Thanks for any feedback! Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I think this is a good question for Skip or Larry Freider. It depends on the individual how much pain is alleviated. There are other things to do with LDN that are safe as a pain reducer. I would look into these avenues. I can offer help if you want to e-mail me with your situation. Best, Kathy [low dose naltrexone] Getting off ULTRAM I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and Diverticulitis.For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram.From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I start LDN.Has anyone been through this?I would like information how best to dose down and off?Approximately how long will it take?Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do for that?How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? Or.....Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take over where the Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as pain relief? Is this hoping for too much?What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped Ultram?Thanks for any feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 ; I'm on LDN, but, I started Kalawalla July 1, 2007 and started to walk and drive again August 21, 2007, before Kalawalla, I hadn't walked or driven for three years, now, what can I say? I ordered from "Organic Hope" if you try Kalawalla, I hope it dose for you, what I think it did for me. I talked to from London, she's with the eqvilant to NMSS here in the states, she said, they have followed some trials on Kalawalla with much success but, not 100%. Best to you, Jim H. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Getting off ULTRAM Someone mentioned taking Kalawalla. What does that do and where can it be ordered. Thanks arlizottecomcast (DOT) net wrote: I had generic Ultram for a short time. It said on the prescription bottle label that Ultram is Tramadol AND tylenol together. Tylenol is already in the Ultram. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "susanearly" <susanearly > I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and Diverticulitis.For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram.From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I start LDN.Has anyone been through this?I would like information how best to dose down and off?Approximately how long will it take?Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do for that?How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? Or.....Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take o ver where the Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as pain relief? Is this hoping for too much?What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped Ultram?Thanks for any feedback! Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Thought you might like this one: Retirement Some People Never Retire One day, while walking to the store, I passed by a Nursing Home. On the front lawn were six old ladies lying naked on the grass. I thought this was totally unusual but continued on my way to the store. On my return trip, I passed the same Nursing Home with the same six old ladies lying naked on the lawn. This time my curiosity got the best of me, and I went inside to talk to the manager. "Do you know there are six ladies lying naked on your front lawn?" "Yes," he said. "They are retired prostitutes, and they're having a yard sale Jharbott <jharbott@...> wrote: ; I'm on LDN, but, I started Kalawalla July 1, 2007 and started to walk and drive again August 21, 2007, before Kalawalla, I hadn't walked or driven for three years, now, what can I say? I ordered from "Organic Hope" if you try Kalawalla, I hope it dose for you, what I think it did for me. I talked to from London, she's with the eqvilant to NMSS here in the states, she said, they have followed some trials on Kalawalla with much success but, not 100%. Best to you, Jim H. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Ultracette is the one that is the Ultram with Tylenol added to it. And the Ultram portion of Ultracette has less Mg's than the Original Ultram. Tramadol is just the generic name for Ultram. I choose use the original version and just take Tylenol separately if and when I need it. I was told that when the expensive Name Brand Ultram had been on the market long enough for the cheaper generic version to be marketed, They " morphed " Ultracette so they could get another 10 years of a Name Brand expensive drug before it could go generic. Sneaky huh? They did the same thing with Celexa which is an expensive name brand anti anxiety and depression medication. When it was about to go generic, they " morphed " it into Lexapro, telling patients it basically the same benefits but was better b/c they just reformulated it minus an ingredient that caused many patients to feel hot as a side effect. The old new and improved version trick....They can now get the Name brand price for another 10 yrs selling it as Lexapro. ...where are you? > > I had generic Ultram for a short time. It said on the prescription bottle label that Ultram is Tramadol AND tylenol together. Tylenol is already in the Ultram. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " susanearly " <susanearly@...> > I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for > chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto > Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and > Diverticulitis. > For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, > one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very > sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram. > From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I > start LDN. > Has anyone been through this? > I would like information how best to dose down and off? > Approximately how long will it take? > Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do > for that? > How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? > Or..... > Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you > will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN > gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take o ver where the > Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as > pain relief? Is this hoping for too much? > What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped > Ultram? > Thanks for any feedback! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 -Thanks Althea, and for all the other stuff you have sent me. It is helping me with my research on LDN in preperation of getting on it myself. I am taking in so much , it's almost overwhelming and I am greatful to hear from people who have been down the same path. -- In low dose naltrexone , " Aletha Wittmann " <Aletha@...> wrote: > > Hi , > > I will send you some saved chats regarding Pain & Ulcerative Colitis. I hope they will be helpful. > > My best > Aletha > [low dose naltrexone] Getting off ULTRAM > > > I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for > chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto > Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and > Diverticulitis. > For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, > one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very > sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram. > From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I > start LDN. > Has anyone been through this? > I would like information how best to dose down and off? > Approximately how long will it take? > Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do > for that? > How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? > Or..... > Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you > will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN > gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take over where the > Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as > pain relief? Is this hoping for too much? > What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped > Ultram? > Thanks for any feedback! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Anytime , Best of luck Aletha [low dose naltrexone] Getting off ULTRAM> > > I have been on 50 mg tablets of Ultram( Tramadol) for many years for > chronic neck and back pain, severe morning stiffness and for Auto > Immune disease symptoms. Also for the pain of Ulcerative Colitis and > Diverticulitis.> For the last 2 years my dose has been two 50 mg Tabs in the morning, > one 6 hrs later and one more 6 hrs later. I use Tylenol very > sparingly now and then for an added kick to the Ultram.> From what I am learning, I will need to stop the Ultram before I > start LDN.> Has anyone been through this?> I would like information how best to dose down and off?> Approximately how long will it take?> Were there bad side effects of coming off the Ultram?...What to do > for that?> How much time to let lapse before starting the LDN? > Or.....> Can you start the LDN and then dose down and off the Ultram so you > will not be totally with out something to ease the pain as the LDN > gets going. This is assuming that the LDN will take over where the > Ultram leaves off....but how soon and how effective is it as far as > pain relief? Is this hoping for too much?> What are your options for pain now, besides LDN, if you stopped > Ultram?> Thanks for any feedback!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 ARIZOTTE - all the years i took TRAMADOL with TYLENOL!! you mean to tell me, it already had tylenol in it?? maybe that's why it made me so sick, when i took them with LDN a month or so, ago!! i reallly thank you for that info!! i don't intend to use it again, while on LDN, anyway!! but, it is good to know what's in the meds we are taking!! marshirisGet a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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