Re: recurring cough every 3-4 weeks...

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In a message dated 15/02/2006 00:00:34 GMT Standard Time,

jakesbaba@... writes:

Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a result of

anything he is eating or experiencing.

>>>Does it occur around the time of the full moon - I am serious

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Make sure he's drinking plenty. Is he in school or day care? Perhaps it

coincides with when they use particular cleaning supplies? Some things like

carpet cleaning products may cause respiratory issues. Have you noticed that it

seems to start on a particular day of the week each time (Mondays perhaps)?

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haven't really though about that. I would guess that it is not like clock work,

it might be six weeks between in some cases. It just seems that everytime he

gets over it, he seems to get it back again.

-john

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In a message dated 15/02/2006 00:00:34 GMT Standard Time,

jakesbaba@... writes:

Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a result of

anything he is eating or experiencing.

>>>Does it occur around the time of the full moon - I am serious

Mandi in UK

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The good thing about my son is that he drinks tons of water typically. He really

does not drink any types of juice on a regular basis. He drinks soymilk in the

afternoon and at night, unless he has a cold- it seems to thicken the mucous so

we avoid it.

He goes to his OT and " start " program at the regional center 3 days each week,

then goes to a school with 2 and 3 year olds for two days each week. It has

occurred ever since he was a baby- so it started before he ever went to school.

I though it could be that his immunities are just very low and he catches

everything he encounters (could be possible.) But that is a really bleak

outlook.

I am not going to rule out that theory, but i think it is something in him,

maybe not around him. (if that makes sense.) It is like a lingering cold that he

never really gets rid of and it keeps coming back. He gets really irritable for

a day or two, doesn't sleep well, the runny nose starts and then the cough.

I forgot to add that more than half the time it is accompanied by a fever, and

when he gets fevers they get really high. Last time the doctor clocked him at

104.3 degrees (no joke.) The pediatrician went on to tell us that he has seen

many kids with fevers above 104 and to give him tylenol and wait it out. Fevers

go down to 100 with tylenol supositories and go away in 3-5 days. Only

occasionally accompanied by diarreahea, otherwise his bowels (thankfully) are

pretty normal.

-john

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

Make sure he's drinking plenty. Is he in school or day care? Perhaps it

coincides with when they use particular cleaning supplies? Some things like

carpet cleaning products may cause respiratory issues. Have you noticed that it

seems to start on a particular day of the week each time (Mondays perhaps)?

S S

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Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a result of

anything he is eating or experiencing.

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Is it more common in the winter (heating systems on)? Have you considered NAET

(allergy testing and treatment)?

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no more common in the winter than the summer. We had bloodwork done to screen

him for alergies, none found for common foods, dust, dander, etc. turned up. He

does run alot, which seems to aggravate it at times. But thinking it might be

asthma is a long shot- that condition is usually not accompanied by the runny

nose and mucous.

I am hoping that maybe his overall health will just improve when we start him

on more specific supplement and chelation protocals after seeing his DAN.

Could it be a viral issue?

-jja

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Is it more common in the winter (heating systems on)? Have you considered NAET

(allergy testing and treatment)?

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> My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts with a

> runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and throws up

> mucous.

I am betting on worms!

Some worms do have an about 3 weeks reproductive cycle, they produce

allergy-like symptoms...

I would test for worms.

Valentina

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Could be...www.danasview.net has viral info.

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that is a scary thought. do they have to do stool tests for this?

-john

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts with a

> runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and throws up

> mucous.

I am betting on worms!

Some worms do have an about 3 weeks reproductive cycle, they produce

allergy-like symptoms...

I would test for worms.

Valentina

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> that is a scary thought. do they have to do stool tests for this?

Yes.

Valentina

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I am maybe leaning towards a viral issue, which is more common in autistic

children, but nothing is out of the relm of possibility.

-thanks for your help,

-jja

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> that is a scary thought. do they have to do stool tests for this?

Yes.

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Valentina, which worms are those? Jim

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that is a scary thought. do they have to do stool tests for this?

-john

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts with

a

> runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and throws up

> mucous.

I am betting on worms!

Some worms do have an about 3 weeks reproductive cycle, they produce

allergy-like symptoms...

I would test for worms.

Valentina

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> My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts with a

> runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and throws up

> mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and multi-

> vitamins with no luck.

Try adding in some anti-virals and vitamin C. It is possible that his

body is well enough to start fighting off any resident viruses, but

then gets overwhelmed so the virus just goes back and " sits " until he

is well enough to try fighting it off again. But he never succeeds in

fighting it all the way off.

Dana

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> Valentina, which worms are those? Jim

I don't know names... Some of the tapeworms, some of the unicellular ones (I

think toxoplasmosis also has some kind of periodic cycle, but not sure). I am

sorry I don't know which ones exactly...

Valentina

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is there an anti-viral that you recommend to try first?

-jja

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts with a

> runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and throws up

> mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and multi-

> vitamins with no luck.

Try adding in some anti-virals and vitamin C. It is possible that his

body is well enough to start fighting off any resident viruses, but

then gets overwhelmed so the virus just goes back and " sits " until he

is well enough to try fighting it off again. But he never succeeds in

fighting it all the way off.

Dana

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> is there an anti-viral that you recommend to try first?

I started with OLE first, altho ViraStop might be better.

Vitamin C [and A] is a good step also.

Dana

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> My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts with a

> runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and throws up

> mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and multi-

> vitamins with no luck.

>

> we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN for the first

> time next week. No help in the past from his past pediatrician, he jus

> claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

>

> Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a result of

> anything he is eating or experiencing.

>

> Supplements to try or any suggestions would be appreciated.

>

> thanks,

>

> john

>

There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that would be picked

up on strategically timed blood counts.

Ever try antihistamines?

What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during this cycle?

Andy . . .. .

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Hello; is it coughing more often at night; during night sleep?.

Because it is frequent to have acid-reflux in most of our children,

even my son suffered this; but it gets better with antiacids; like

PPIs, and as you Know many papers published have revealed that it is

not infrequent reflux esophagites in children with autism.

all the best

nur

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> >

> > My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts

with a

> > runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and

throws up

> > mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and multi-

> > vitamins with no luck.

> >

> > we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN for the

first

> > time next week. No help in the past from his past pediatrician,

he jus

> > claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

> >

> > Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a result

of

> > anything he is eating or experiencing.

> >

> > Supplements to try or any suggestions would be appreciated.

> >

> > thanks,

> >

> > john

> >

> There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that would be

picked

> up on strategically timed blood counts.

>

> Ever try antihistamines?

>

> What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during this cycle?

>

> Andy . . .. .

>

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The cough can be of asthmatic origin - has your doctor ruled that out?

Have they tried albuterol and steroid inhalers?

Andy . .

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> > >

> > > My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts

> with a

> > > runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and

> throws up

> > > mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and multi-

> > > vitamins with no luck.

> > >

> > > we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN for the

> first

> > > time next week. No help in the past from his past pediatrician,

> he jus

> > > claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

> > >

> > > Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a result

> of

> > > anything he is eating or experiencing.

> > >

> > > Supplements to try or any suggestions would be appreciated.

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > >

> > > john

> > >

> > There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that would be

> picked

> > up on strategically timed blood counts.

> >

> > Ever try antihistamines?

> >

> > What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during this cycle?

> >

> > Andy . . .. .

> >

>

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Check carefully timing - does it excaberate more during a full moon

week, ie +- 3 or 4 days before, on and after????

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It

starts

> > with a

> > > > runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and

> > throws up

> > > > mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and

multi-

> > > > vitamins with no luck.

> > > >

> > > > we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN for

the

> > first

> > > > time next week. No help in the past from his past

pediatrician,

> > he jus

> > > > claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a

result

> > of

> > > > anything he is eating or experiencing.

> > > >

> > > > Supplements to try or any suggestions would be appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > >

> > > > john

> > > >

> > > There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that would be

> > picked

> > > up on strategically timed blood counts.

> > >

> > > Ever try antihistamines?

> > >

> > > What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during this

cycle?

> > >

> > > Andy . . .. .

> > >

> >

>

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i have not been able to correlate it to lunar cycles. He started up again about

2-3 days ago- no fever, just really thick runny nose that drains into the throat

and chest and causes a bad cough.

I would be willing to try a steroid inhaler to see if it works. Anything is

worth a try at this point....

thanks for the advice.

-john

prshaw56 <prshaw16@...> wrote:

Check carefully timing - does it excaberate more during a full moon

week, ie +- 3 or 4 days before, on and after????

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It

starts

> > with a

> > > > runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and

> > throws up

> > > > mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and

multi-

> > > > vitamins with no luck.

> > > >

> > > > we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN for

the

> > first

> > > > time next week. No help in the past from his past

pediatrician,

> > he jus

> > > > claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a

result

> > of

> > > > anything he is eating or experiencing.

> > > >

> > > > Supplements to try or any suggestions would be appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > >

> > > > john

> > > >

> > > There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that would be

> > picked

> > > up on strategically timed blood counts.

> > >

> > > Ever try antihistamines?

> > >

> > > What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during this

cycle?

> > >

> > > Andy . . .. .

> > >

> >

>

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His appetite seems to decrease most of the time when he gets his colds and bowel

movements get a little losser than normal, but not much. He is does not become

constipated, if anything he seems to go more times during his sick periods.

Since we have added mineral/vitamin supplementation and continual anti-oxidant

in the form of mangosteen. He has gotten sick a little less and he did not go

into full blow fever this time (which is nice.)

The only method that seems to control the cough is a 12-hour cough syrup

called Delsym. Just allows him to sleep at night because he is not coughing.

Doesn't really take care of the mucas problem though.

I really feel that it could be some sort of cyclical viral issue or

auto-immune problem that manifests itself in a runny nose, then cough and fever.

It runs it's course and goes away in 5-7 days and comes back every 4-6 weeks.

-john

andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote:

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> My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It starts with a

> runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep and throws up

> mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and multi-

> vitamins with no luck.

>

> we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN for the first

> time next week. No help in the past from his past pediatrician, he jus

> claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

>

> Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a result of

> anything he is eating or experiencing.

>

> Supplements to try or any suggestions would be appreciated.

>

> thanks,

>

> john

>

There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that would be picked

up on strategically timed blood counts.

Ever try antihistamines?

What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during this cycle?

Andy . . .. .

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,

Ever considered a trial of dairy-free for your NT son? My oldest NT

son lives with chronic sinusitis, too. I've been able to greatly

reduce his symptoms with a dairy free diet. He is allowed to eat

dairy (any amount) 2 days per week. For a 9 year old who pretty

much lived on dairy, the transition was not easy. He feels so good,

however, that he polices himself.

What we did was this: 100% dairy removal for 7 days. Put dairy

back in for 7 days and measure the difference. I saw a big change

immediately.

IgE allergy tests (standard scratch tests) showed no dairy allergy.

Pam

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It

> > starts

> > > > with a

> > > > > > runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep

> and

> > > > throws up

> > > > > > mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants

and

> > multi-

> > > > > > vitamins with no luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN

> for

> > the

> > > > first

> > > > > > time next week. No help in the past from his past

> > pediatrician,

> > > > he jus

> > > > > > claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a

> > result

> > > > of

> > > > > > anything he is eating or experiencing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Supplements to try or any suggestions would be

appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > john

> > > > > >

> > > > > There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that

would

> be

> > > > picked

> > > > > up on strategically timed blood counts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ever try antihistamines?

> > > > >

> > > > > What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during

this

> > cycle?

> > > > >

> > > > > Andy . . .. .

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My son got a sinus-y thing every time we chelated. I think it was yeast,

because GSE and later Oil of Oregano knocked it out.

Barb

[ ] Re: recurring cough every 3-4 weeks...

> My NT son had a cough that wouldnt go away either...turns out that

> he had Chronic Sinunitis (completely blocked upper sinus cavities)

> we learned after running a CAT scan of his sinuses. Unfortuantely we

> also found out he has asthma. Three weeks of antibiotics, and

> Nasanex cured it...the cough and congestion is gone. But he is on

> Singulair daily (no side effects) and takes his inhaler 15 minutes

> prior to activity. He is feeling " much better mom " , Hope this

> helps...I am thinking about this cat scan for my autistic son as

> well as he is constantly stuffy (I hear him breathing).

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>> > > > > My son seems to get sick every 3 or 4 weeks it seems. It

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>> > > with a

>> > > > > runny nose and cough and gets so bad that he can't sleep

> and

>> > > throws up

>> > > > > mucous. I have tried diets, probiotics, anti-oxidants and

>> multi-

>> > > > > vitamins with no luck.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > we are new to all other treatments and are seeing a DAN

> for

>> the

>> > > first

>> > > > > time next week. No help in the past from his past

>> pediatrician,

>> > > he jus

>> > > > > claimed that it is whatever bug is going around.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Anyone have any ideas it seems cyclical not really as a

>> result

>> > > of

>> > > > > anything he is eating or experiencing.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Supplements to try or any suggestions would be appreciated.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > thanks,

>> > > > >

>> > > > > john

>> > > > >

>> > > > There are some rare cyclical immune deficiencies that would

> be

>> > > picked

>> > > > up on strategically timed blood counts.

>> > > >

>> > > > Ever try antihistamines?

>> > > >

>> > > > What happens with his appetite and bowel habits during this

>> cycle?

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> My son got a sinus-y thing every time we chelated. I think it was

yeast,

> because GSE and later Oil of Oregano knocked it out.

> Barb

Eureka! Can I use O of O and while he's taking an SSRI knowing that

the GSE might be an issue?