Re: Creatine question

[Guest guest]

MIchelle -

Does your son see an OT?

parent23angels <mom23angels@...> wrote:I have been reading the creatine

posts with alot of interest. In fact

I just got back from buying some from the HFS.

I am hoping it will help my 6 yo son with his handwriting. And

wondering if it will help with him choosing a dominant writing hand.

Currently he uses both. But then again maybe that is just how he is.

I am lefthanded for writing and cutting with scissors, but with other

things (ie. bowling, throwing a ball, batting) I use my right hand.

Also has anyone noticed a physical change with their child from using

this? Nick has upper body hypotonia and I wonder if it will help him

to fill out on top.

Thank you so much,

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[Guest guest]

No, but have you seen any improvements? We have been doing creatine for

almost 4 weeks, and really haven't seen much.

[Guest guest]

Nell--how much do you give and what brand?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

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> No, but have you seen any improvements? We have been doing creatine

for

> almost 4 weeks, and really haven't seen much.

I think it took about 6 weeks to really take effect. Before creatine

-- just back in Oct. -- my son was taking days to write a few

sentences, with much wailing and misery. Today his teacher told me

he's working on a story that's up to 5 pages and he's so enthusiastic

about it he won't quit .

Nell

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> Nell--how much do you give and what brand?

http://store./iherb/creatinmono.html

I give 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps when he gets home from school,

for a total of 3 grams/day.

Nell

[Guest guest]

SAMHSA implemented MANDATORY specimen validity testing on November 1,

2004. I would find the citation in the Federal Register and have your

attorney submit it to the family court. I've dealt with family court

myself. They may not be up to snuff on drug testing, but they are STILL

held accountable. It's up to your lawyer to do this.

>

> onsite labs sent out to northwest tox box at bottom for specimen

> dilute NOT checked 3 31 06.neg....onsite labs sent to northwest tox

> no boxes checked 12 8 05 positive 4000 no idea why...onsite labs

> northwest no boxes checked 11 5 05 negative....onsite labs northwest

> tox neg no boxes checked.....onsite labs northwest tox 12 29 05

> positive 475 ??? no boxes checked ..boxes say specimen dilute not

> checked..those are the only tests that they gave that we requested..3

> more wont give me.....what does this mean and can I fight that..sorry

> so confusing...judge says Im cronic alcoholic...family court IS not up

> to same standards as others ..

>

[Guest guest]

First creatine or creatinine? The blood lab " creatine kinase " is used

to look for muscle damage in which case the levels would be high if

something were wrong.

Creatinine is used to measure kidney function, and if the creatinine

is low that would be good. High would be bad.

What the old posts say on children's creatine/creatinine:

..3 is normal for a child. Not sure how below that he is but Andy says

serum creatine is usually low in children.

This is a post I found by Andy on low creatine in children:

Parent: Most of our kiddos have a low urine creatinine

Andy: ALL children have low serum creatinine and low 24 hour urine

creatinine on tests using adult normal ranges, which most

tests do. This is not pathological.

Parent: My sons creatinine level was low during the challenge urine

test. Itwas low last time we did the test 4 months back. Should I

supplement him with creatine supplements.

Suggestions..........

Andy: This is typical, it is a result of the challenge test (which

causes extra water to be excreted and dilutes the urine), and is not

pathological. Andy

some more Andy info on creatine:

Creatinine levels in SERUM indicate kidney function. Creatinine

in a 24 hour collection indicates whether it was done

properly and handled right - for women and children you get about

0.1 mg of creatinine per 24 hours per 10# of person (ideal

weight - muscle makes creatinine, fat doesn't).

If you are experiencing protein malnutrition it is reduced

somewhat, but the most likely explanation for low creatinine is

improper sample handling.

The range is for everyone from 1 year olds to 17 year olds - you

need to figure the number for your kid (or yourself) as above.

There are tables in the appendix of my book for adults if any of

you are doing your own tests.

This is what he says about supplementing it:

" Creatine is pretty benign, inexpensive, and available from

low cost vendors like NOW foods (orange labels on white

plastic bottles, in health food stores) and may others.

The powder has little taste and is slightly gritty, one

can eat it off a spoon and wash it down with a liquid.

It improves both brain and muscle function by levelling out

mitochondrial workload to produce ATP.

There is some good discussion of it in the context of neurological

(though adult) issues on www.lef.org .

Andy " http://onibasu.com/archives/am/154204.html

I know I did not give a definitive answer, but maybe the information I

found can help you decide.

-- In , " l.largey " <l.largey@...> wrote:

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> Hope someone can help

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> My son's bloodwork has consistantly shown low creatine. This is Lab

> Corp pediatric range.He is LMOST 3. Also his urine creatine tested low.

> I have been browsing through old posts and still unsure. Is this a safe

> supplement to try? My son is doing great with chelation but his

> expressive language is far far behind and he has apraxia. He uses words

> appropriately but its very very hard to understand his pronunciation is

> really bad. Any input if it sounds like this supplement might help?

> He is going to preschool in 2 months and has no usable understandable

> language ...

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