St. 's Wort

[Guest guest]

, obviously iel is a REAL challenge for you right now. You NEED

to get some help managing iel's condition and your stress levels to

keep your Graves' disease under control. I hope you're taking good care of

yourself nutrionally, medically and psychologically. You can't help

iel if you don't have the necessary reserves. St. 's Wort

certainly isn't the answer for everyone, but have you investigated

prescribed medication? You've found a link for support, I hope you'll

continue to stay in touch.

- Bonner

[Guest guest]

I'm sure most of you have been seeing the articles this week saying that St. 's Wort has been shown to get in the way of drugs used to treat cancer. One of the drugs mentioned was cyclosporine. Cyclosporine is one of the options for liver disorders, particularly for those who have had transplants. These articles should be a reminder to us not to assume that a natural drug, or an herb, is safe. That's just not the way it works, as many of us know to our sorrow.

Harper

[Guest guest]

To all that were involved in the St. 's Wort conversation I just want to

be clear on one thing. Any hostility/frustration or anger displayed in my

first email on this subject is directed only at the FDA and the docs. I don't

always pick the best words and sometimes my frustration in these areas just

gets the best of me.

If anyone knows of any doctors other than the one's already listed in

previous emails that are sucessful in getting their patients off these drugs,

you really need to provide a list for us. Most on here are desperatly looking

for someone that knows what they are doing and most find that their doc's

really are not clear on how to get their patients off these drugs. If their

are more doc's out there that have concrete answers in these areas please

provide their names.

Kindest regards,

Connie

[Guest guest]

To all that were involved in the St. 's Wort conversation I just want to

be clear on one thing. Any hostility/frustration or anger displayed in my

first email on this subject is directed only at the FDA and the docs. I don't

always pick the best words and sometimes my frustration in these areas just

gets the best of me.

If anyone knows of any doctors other than the one's already listed in

previous emails that are sucessful in getting their patients off these drugs,

you really need to provide a list for us. Most on here are desperatly looking

for someone that knows what they are doing and most find that their doc's

really are not clear on how to get their patients off these drugs. If their

are more doc's out there that have concrete answers in these areas please

provide their names.

Kindest regards,

Connie

[Guest guest]

I have heard that St. 's Wort interferes with many medications.

I had thought about using that also, but decided on trying SAMe. I

have only been on it 3 days. Too soon to tell if it is working

though.

> Has anyone here tried using St. 's Wort for their depression?

>

> I have read that it has been effective for mild/moderate

depression,

> but not for major depression. I think I am moderately depressed,

it

> isn't getting better with supplements and I'm not ready for zoloft

> yet, lol.

>

> Actually, I need a T3 test. I'm pretty sure my doctors won't give

me

> one because they are both against Armour and Cytomel. I know, I

> know... get a new doctor dummy, lol.

>

> In " The Thyroid Solution " the author does advocate using T3 when

> levothyroxine hasn't helped. Now I'm postitive I need T3, just

like I

> was positive I had adrenal fatigue, lol (I don't). But, he does

make

> a good case for needing more T3 and with my TSH at .8 or lower the

> Synthroid hasn't helped me.

[Guest guest]

Hi . What is SAMe?

I have also read about it interfering with other medications, I am

only taking levothyroxine (Synthroid) and it was not on any of

the " drug interaction " lists I have found so far.

I have been taking the SJW for less than a week.

> I have heard that St. 's Wort interferes with many medications.

> I had thought about using that also, but decided on trying SAMe. I

> have only been on it 3 days. Too soon to tell if it is working

> though.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rebeccca

St 's Wort can be very effective for mild depression and T3 can work

for severe depression - but you need the right doses in either case.

I took St J's with my thyroid meds no problem - if I recall 900mcg twice

a day ( I think) - it was helpful.

Originally I was severely depresses for many years and St did not

help much at all back then - I cured my depression with high dose T3. I

used St john's sunsequently for mild depression and it definitely

helped.

Kerry

St. 's Wort

Has anyone here tried using St. 's Wort for their depression?

I have read that it has been effective for mild/moderate depression,

but not for major depression. I think I am moderately depressed, it

isn't getting better with supplements and I'm not ready for zoloft

yet, lol.

Actually, I need a T3 test. I'm pretty sure my doctors won't give me

one because they are both against Armour and Cytomel. I know, I

know... get a new doctor dummy, lol.

In " The Thyroid Solution " the author does advocate using T3 when

levothyroxine hasn't helped. Now I'm postitive I need T3, just like I

was positive I had adrenal fatigue, lol (I don't). But, he does make

a good case for needing more T3 and with my TSH at .8 or lower the

Synthroid hasn't helped me.

[Guest guest]

SAMe is an over the counter supplement, an amino acid. It has been

used in Europe to treat depression, fibromyalgia, arthritis and

others with little to no side effects. If you do a search on the

web, you will find more info on it. I am not one for prescription

meds, so I figured I'd give this a try first.

> > I have heard that St. 's Wort interferes with many

medications.

> > I had thought about using that also, but decided on trying

SAMe. I

> > have only been on it 3 days. Too soon to tell if it is working

> > though.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kerry Ann,

What was you 'high dose' of T3 to help your depression? Was it larger than

20mgs daily?

Val

St. 's Wort

>

>

> Has anyone here tried using St. 's Wort for their depression?

>

> I have read that it has been effective for mild/moderate depression,

> but not for major depression. I think I am moderately depressed, it

> isn't getting better with supplements and I'm not ready for zoloft

> yet, lol.

>

> Actually, I need a T3 test. I'm pretty sure my doctors won't give me

> one because they are both against Armour and Cytomel. I know, I

> know... get a new doctor dummy, lol.

>

> In " The Thyroid Solution " the author does advocate using T3 when

> levothyroxine hasn't helped. Now I'm postitive I need T3, just like I

> was positive I had adrenal fatigue, lol (I don't). But, he does make

> a good case for needing more T3 and with my TSH at .8 or lower the

> Synthroid hasn't helped me.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Val - I did 's Therapy and in one three week cycle I went up

to 80mcg twice a day for about 4 days thn cycled back down to 10mcg - I

was not taking t4 at the same time of course. My duaghter who has

depression as well has been taking 50 mcg T3 for 6 months and she is no

longer depressed. Itthink the younger ones can get well on much less.

I would not report it here unless I was sure it was the T3 which cured

my depression - but it was the only thing I was doing at the time and

for anyone who has been severely depressed you can't fake or imagine

being normal again - it is like night and day.

kerry

Re: St. 's Wort

Kerry Ann,

What was you 'high dose' of T3 to help your depression? Was it larger

than

20mgs daily?

Val

St. 's Wort

>

>

> Has anyone here tried using St. 's Wort for their depression?

>

> I have read that it has been effective for mild/moderate depression,

> but not for major depression. I think I am moderately depressed, it

> isn't getting better with supplements and I'm not ready for zoloft

> yet, lol.

>

> Actually, I need a T3 test. I'm pretty sure my doctors won't give me

> one because they are both against Armour and Cytomel. I know, I

> know... get a new doctor dummy, lol.

>

> In " The Thyroid Solution " the author does advocate using T3 when

> levothyroxine hasn't helped. Now I'm postitive I need T3, just like I

> was positive I had adrenal fatigue, lol (I don't). But, he does make

> a good case for needing more T3 and with my TSH at .8 or lower the

> Synthroid hasn't helped me.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Kerry,

I have been taking a 300mg pill 3X a day. That is the recommended

dose I have found on several websites. I have read it will take 4-6

weeks before you will notice any change, but I'm not sure I can wait

that long.

I am looking into T3 therapy, and a new doctor. I am still on a low

dose of T4 (75 mcg), and I just feel like crap, lol.

> > Hi Rebeccca

> > St 's Wort can be very effective for mild depression and T3 can

> work

> > for severe depression - but you need the right doses in either

case.

> > I took St J's with my thyroid meds no problem - if I recall 900mcg

> twice

> > a day ( I think) - it was helpful.

> > Originally I was severely depresses for many years and St did

not

> > help much at all back then - I cured my depression with high dose

T3.

> I

> > used St john's sunsequently for mild depression and it definitely

> > helped.

> > Kerry

[Guest guest]

- how would you feel about increasing your T4 just to see if you

feel better? You could come back down if you get too much. I felt

horrible on that dose of T4 and my doc wouldn't let me increase but I

felt I had to try it - so I went all the way up to 200 and I feel human

at this dose - been on it for over a year now without any hyper symptoms

so it must be right for me for now - so much for that doc!!!!

Kerry

Re: St. 's Wort

Thank you Kerry,

I have been taking a 300mg pill 3X a day. That is the recommended

dose I have found on several websites. I have read it will take 4-6

weeks before you will notice any change, but I'm not sure I can wait

that long.

I am looking into T3 therapy, and a new doctor. I am still on a low

dose of T4 (75 mcg), and I just feel like crap, lol.

> > Hi Rebeccca

> > St 's Wort can be very effective for mild depression and T3 can

> work

> > for severe depression - but you need the right doses in either

case.

> > I took St J's with my thyroid meds no problem - if I recall 900mcg

> twice

> > a day ( I think) - it was helpful.

> > Originally I was severely depresses for many years and St did

not

> > help much at all back then - I cured my depression with high dose

T3.

> I

> > used St john's sunsequently for mild depression and it definitely

> > helped.

> > Kerry

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry,

I would love to increase my T4 dose, but how can I without running

out of pills? The two doctors I'm seeing are convinced my thyroid is

fine and I just need antidepressnts. The only doctor I can find who

will prescribe Armour is in Rochester, which is about an

hour away. That's not too far I guess, and I plan to call her

(http://drmarywise.net/) and set up an appointment, but what to do

until then? I can't make decisions about anything lately, and I know

I need a new doctor but it sounds like a lot to do... I feel like a

child, lol.

A month ago there was a doctor listed on the Armour website for the

city I live in, but she is gone now and I can't remember her name. I

would love to find a local doctor that I can also use as a GP. I was

really surprised there are no doctors listed for Ithaca either on a

top docs list or at Armour.com, I'd much rather go there if I had to

travel.

I have read that the right dose of T4 could get rid of depression,

and I haven't yet felt like I was on the right dose, but then I also

fear overdoing it.

I know it is probably irrelevant, but my TSH was 0.8 the last time it

was checked, and it had gone down from 1.17 just three days earlier

on the same dose. That was over a month ago.

What worries me is that it went from 6.17 to 0.8 in one month, when I

went from 50mcg to 75mcg... so what would another 25mcg do. Maybe I

need the 88mcg pill? I am not having weight problems so would that

mean my metabolism is still functioning properly at some level?

My mind is definately not the same though... and my house has never

looked this messy before, lol. I used to be really good at organizing

things, and lately even loading/unloading the dishwasher is

overwhelming. I worry about the upcoming weeks when my children (ages

2 and 5) are out of school and mommy doesn't want to do anything, I

don't want to do that to them, and I don't want the guilt of it all.

> - how would you feel about increasing your T4 just to see

if you

> feel better? You could come back down if you get too much. I felt

> horrible on that dose of T4 and my doc wouldn't let me increase but

I

> felt I had to try it - so I went all the way up to 200 and I feel

human

> at this dose - been on it for over a year now without any hyper

symptoms

> so it must be right for me for now - so much for that doc!!!!

> Kerry

>

[Guest guest]

Hi - I sympathise with what you are going through - I don't know

about the weight thing - I guess it does mean you have reasonable

metabolism for now - I got all the symptoms at once sudden weight gain,

depression etc but we are all different.

I bought my Armour online at first before I found a doc to prescribe -

you can buy T4 and T3 that way as well. I do not think self dosing is

dangerous at all as long as you keep a good journal take temp and heart

rate daily and increase dosees slowly - every two weeks minimum and up

to six weeks between. Some of us need increases more quickly than

others. If I stayed on a low dose for too long I would just get sicker

and sicker - the doctor would interpret this as having too much hormone

but after all my research i knew it was from ahving too little but just

enough to suppress my own T4 production. IMO this is the main thing to

watch for when you are on low doses ie 25 - 75 mcg. You need to take

enough hormone to alleviate symptoms. And there is a lot of fear hype

out there about the dangers of thyroid hormone overdose - I don't thyink

it is warranted as long as you are careful.

Did i understand you corrrectly that you has TSh tests within three days

of each other? I don't think dosing to TSH is very useful - use your

symptoms and how you feel. My TSH tests didn't tell me I was sick in the

first place - they were normal and I felt like death warmed up - so it

seems illogical to me to use TSh to tell me if I am getting better - do

you see what I mean?

Kerry

Re: St. 's Wort

Hi Kerry,

I would love to increase my T4 dose, but how can I without running

out of pills? The two doctors I'm seeing are convinced my thyroid is

fine and I just need antidepressnts. The only doctor I can find who

will prescribe Armour is in Rochester, which is about an

hour away. That's not too far I guess, and I plan to call her

(http://drmarywise.net/) and set up an appointment, but what to do

until then? I can't make decisions about anything lately, and I know

I need a new doctor but it sounds like a lot to do... I feel like a

child, lol.

A month ago there was a doctor listed on the Armour website for the

city I live in, but she is gone now and I can't remember her name. I

would love to find a local doctor that I can also use as a GP. I was

really surprised there are no doctors listed for Ithaca either on a

top docs list or at Armour.com, I'd much rather go there if I had to

travel.

I have read that the right dose of T4 could get rid of depression,

and I haven't yet felt like I was on the right dose, but then I also

fear overdoing it.

I know it is probably irrelevant, but my TSH was 0.8 the last time it

was checked, and it had gone down from 1.17 just three days earlier

on the same dose. That was over a month ago.

What worries me is that it went from 6.17 to 0.8 in one month, when I

went from 50mcg to 75mcg... so what would another 25mcg do. Maybe I

need the 88mcg pill? I am not having weight problems so would that

mean my metabolism is still functioning properly at some level?

My mind is definately not the same though... and my house has never

looked this messy before, lol. I used to be really good at organizing

things, and lately even loading/unloading the dishwasher is

overwhelming. I worry about the upcoming weeks when my children (ages

2 and 5) are out of school and mommy doesn't want to do anything, I

don't want to do that to them, and I don't want the guilt of it all.

> - how would you feel about increasing your T4 just to see

if you

> feel better? You could come back down if you get too much. I felt

> horrible on that dose of T4 and my doc wouldn't let me increase but

I

> felt I had to try it - so I went all the way up to 200 and I feel

human

> at this dose - been on it for over a year now without any hyper

symptoms

> so it must be right for me for now - so much for that doc!!!!

> Kerry

>

[Guest guest]

My orig. endo, said there was really nothing wrong with me either, but gave me a

script for 75 mcg of Synthroid....I have now doubled my dose, over the last 2

months. This is the best I have felt in a very long time. My energy is back,

the weight is coming off, slowly, a couple lbs a week, but its coming off. I am

also taking COQ10 twice a day. It seems to also help with the depression and

energy. I'm going to a new endo in a couple of weeks....guess I have to tell

him what I did!

Don't be afraid to up your meds, you know how you feel.

Carol

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

Hi - I sympathise with what you are going through - I don't know

about the weight thing - I guess it does mean you have reasonable

metabolism for now - I got all the symptoms at once sudden weight gain,

depression etc but we are all different.

I bought my Armour online at first before I found a doc to prescribe -

you can buy T4 and T3 that way as well. I do not think self dosing is

dangerous at all as long as you keep a good journal take temp and heart

rate daily and increase dosees slowly - every two weeks minimum and up

to six weeks between. Some of us need increases more quickly than

others. If I stayed on a low dose for too long I would just get sicker

and sicker - the doctor would interpret this as having too much hormone

but after all my research i knew it was from ahving too little but just

enough to suppress my own T4 production. IMO this is the main thing to

watch for when you are on low doses ie 25 - 75 mcg. You need to take

enough hormone to alleviate symptoms. And there is a lot of fear hype

out there about the dangers of thyroid hormone overdose - I don't thyink

it is warranted as long as you are careful.

Did i understand you corrrectly that you has TSh tests within three days

of each other? I don't think dosing to TSH is very useful - use your

symptoms and how you feel. My TSH tests didn't tell me I was sick in the

first place - they were normal and I felt like death warmed up - so it

seems illogical to me to use TSh to tell me if I am getting better - do

you see what I mean?

Kerry

Re: St. 's Wort

Hi Kerry,

I would love to increase my T4 dose, but how can I without running

out of pills? The two doctors I'm seeing are convinced my thyroid is

fine and I just need antidepressnts. The only doctor I can find who

will prescribe Armour is in Rochester, which is about an

hour away. That's not too far I guess, and I plan to call her

(http://drmarywise.net/) and set up an appointment, but what to do

until then? I can't make decisions about anything lately, and I know

I need a new doctor but it sounds like a lot to do... I feel like a

child, lol.

A month ago there was a doctor listed on the Armour website for the

city I live in, but she is gone now and I can't remember her name. I

would love to find a local doctor that I can also use as a GP. I was

really surprised there are no doctors listed for Ithaca either on a

top docs list or at Armour.com, I'd much rather go there if I had to

travel.

I have read that the right dose of T4 could get rid of depression,

and I haven't yet felt like I was on the right dose, but then I also

fear overdoing it.

I know it is probably irrelevant, but my TSH was 0.8 the last time it

was checked, and it had gone down from 1.17 just three days earlier

on the same dose. That was over a month ago.

What worries me is that it went from 6.17 to 0.8 in one month, when I

went from 50mcg to 75mcg... so what would another 25mcg do. Maybe I

need the 88mcg pill? I am not having weight problems so would that

mean my metabolism is still functioning properly at some level?

My mind is definately not the same though... and my house has never

looked this messy before, lol. I used to be really good at organizing

things, and lately even loading/unloading the dishwasher is

overwhelming. I worry about the upcoming weeks when my children (ages

2 and 5) are out of school and mommy doesn't want to do anything, I

don't want to do that to them, and I don't want the guilt of it all.

> - how would you feel about increasing your T4 just to see

if you

> feel better? You could come back down if you get too much. I felt

> horrible on that dose of T4 and my doc wouldn't let me increase but

I

> felt I had to try it - so I went all the way up to 200 and I feel

human

> at this dose - been on it for over a year now without any hyper

symptoms

> so it must be right for me for now - so much for that doc!!!!

> Kerry

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I had two TSH tests done within three days of each other, one

with my GP, one with my endo.

I called a local independent pharmacy today, apparently no doctors in

my city have prescribed Armour, the pharmacist directed me to a

doctor in Ithaca.

I'm going to give her a call

I don't want to self medicate yet because I am new to this and I'm

not entirely sure my thyroid is the only problem at this point.

> Did i understand you corrrectly that you has TSh tests within three

days

> of each other? I don't think dosing to TSH is very useful - use

your

> symptoms and how you feel. My TSH tests didn't tell me I was sick

in

the

> first place - they were normal and I felt like death warmed up - so

it

> seems illogical to me to use TSh to tell me if I am getting better

-

do

> you see what I mean?

> Kerry

[Guest guest]

Outstanding. I'm just starting to adjust mine myself

and see how I " feel " regardless of what " doc " says.

--- Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

> - how would you feel about increasing your

> T4 just to see if you

> feel better? You could come back down if you get too

> much. I felt

> horrible on that dose of T4 and my doc wouldn't let

> me increase but I

> felt I had to try it - so I went all the way up to

> 200 and I feel human

> at this dose - been on it for over a year now

> without any hyper symptoms

> so it must be right for me for now - so much for

> that doc!!!!

> Kerry

>

> Re: St. 's Wort

>

>

> Thank you Kerry,

>

> I have been taking a 300mg pill 3X a day. That is

> the recommended

> dose I have found on several websites. I have read

> it will take 4-6

> weeks before you will notice any change, but I'm not

> sure I can wait

> that long.

>

> I am looking into T3 therapy, and a new doctor. I am

> still on a low

> dose of T4 (75 mcg), and I just feel like crap, lol.

>

>

> > > Hi Rebeccca

> > > St 's Wort can be very effective for mild

> depression and T3 can

> > work

> > > for severe depression - but you need the right

> doses in either

> case.

> > > I took St J's with my thyroid meds no problem -

> if I recall 900mcg

> > twice

> > > a day ( I think) - it was helpful.

> > > Originally I was severely depresses for many

> years and St did

> not

> > > help much at all back then - I cured my

> depression with high dose

> T3.

> > I

> > > used St john's sunsequently for mild depression

> and it definitely

> > > helped.

> > > Kerry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kerry,

Sorry to butt in on this post, but the one thing my ENT Doc was concerned

about when I was on 200mgs, was high levels of calcium found in my blood at

testing. That calcium is being leached from somewhere, to be free floating

in your blood. Like you I felt great on 200mgs, but I do remember feeling

energetic through the day and sometimes not at all sleepy; but some nights

my heart used to thump away keeping me awake. One thing the docs worry about

with both hyper and hypo is loss of bone density from the long term use of

our meds. Please be careful with being on this dose for a prolonged period.

If you can, get a bone density test done to make sure your bones are as

'old' as you are and not older if you see what I mean. Keep staying well.

Val

Re: St. 's Wort

>

>

> Thank you Kerry,

>

> I have been taking a 300mg pill 3X a day. That is the recommended

> dose I have found on several websites. I have read it will take 4-6

> weeks before you will notice any change, but I'm not sure I can wait

> that long.

>

> I am looking into T3 therapy, and a new doctor. I am still on a low

> dose of T4 (75 mcg), and I just feel like crap, lol.

>

>

> > > Hi Rebeccca

> > > St 's Wort can be very effective for mild depression and T3 can

> > work

> > > for severe depression - but you need the right doses in either

> case.

> > > I took St J's with my thyroid meds no problem - if I recall 900mcg

> > twice

> > > a day ( I think) - it was helpful.

> > > Originally I was severely depresses for many years and St did

> not

> > > help much at all back then - I cured my depression with high dose

> T3.

> > I

> > > used St john's sunsequently for mild depression and it definitely

> > > helped.

> > > Kerry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Val - I researched this when I first began on thyroid hormone - I

found that the wholistic docs including Dr's Shames and Peatfiels do not

regard the tests claiming to prove calcium loss with high dose of

thyroid hormone to be believable. I am very sceptical of anything a drug

company claims - both positive and negative - and given that I have had

the best results following the advice of the 'renegade " doctors and the

worst health believing my long list of conventional docs I am choosing

to trust the mavericks on this one.

The other issue of contention with crrent medical theory is what

constitutes a high dose - apparently in times gone by 5 grains of armour

was not considered excessive for a person who needed it. I will be

honest with you - I am not concerned about calcium leaching I totally

trust in my body's ability to regulate these levels if I give it a

chance to be well and supply the correct nutrition. Honestly Val I have

not felt this well in ages but actually it is due more to my

pregesterone cream than any thyroid meds!

of course I do not intend to continue on a high dose for any longer than

i need to but so far each time I try to lower I get a bit tired again.

My theory is that when my adrenal are properly healed then my body will

be able to control the Hashis virus )or whatever it is) better and then

I should be able to wean down the hormone.

I do not really understand the doctors reasoning in any case - if you

take thyroid hormone to replacment level - which is about 200mcg or

more for some - then you are simply replacing what the body would have

beeenmaking anyway - if you have too much you get symptoms like

palpitationa and heart thumping as you did (which I don't by the way) -

so you would obviously lower your dose till it hits the level your body

would be naturally producing. How does calcium leaching come into this

equation?

thanks for you concern anyway Val - I do appreciate it and of course I

am very careful.

Kerry

Re: Re: St. 's Wort

Kerry,

Sorry to butt in on this post, but the one thing my ENT Doc was

concerned

about when I was on 200mgs, was high levels of calcium found in my blood

at

testing. That calcium is being leached from somewhere, to be free

floating

in your blood. Like you I felt great on 200mgs, but I do remember

feeling

energetic through the day and sometimes not at all sleepy; but some

nights

my heart used to thump away keeping me awake. One thing the docs worry

about

with both hyper and hypo is loss of bone density from the long term use

of

our meds. Please be careful with being on this dose for a prolonged

period.

If you can, get a bone density test done to make sure your bones are as

'old' as you are and not older if you see what I mean. Keep staying

well.

Val

Re: St. 's Wort

>

>

> Thank you Kerry,

>

> I have been taking a 300mg pill 3X a day. That is the recommended

> dose I have found on several websites. I have read it will take 4-6

> weeks before you will notice any change, but I'm not sure I can wait

> that long.

>

> I am looking into T3 therapy, and a new doctor. I am still on a low

> dose of T4 (75 mcg), and I just feel like crap, lol.

>

>

> > > Hi Rebeccca

> > > St 's Wort can be very effective for mild depression and T3

can

> > work

> > > for severe depression - but you need the right doses in either

> case.

> > > I took St J's with my thyroid meds no problem - if I recall 900mcg

> > twice

> > > a day ( I think) - it was helpful.

> > > Originally I was severely depresses for many years and St did

> not

> > > help much at all back then - I cured my depression with high dose

> T3.

> > I

> > > used St john's sunsequently for mild depression and it definitely

> > > helped.

> > > Kerry

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry,

Hope my post did not depress or upset you, it sure was not my intenton. I

like where you wrote you totally trust in your body's ability, to heal.

Well, as I said before, stay well and keep living up to your surname

'faithfull' in following your instincts, I was just mother henning again!!!!

Love,

Val

Re: St. 's Wort

> >

> >

> > Thank you Kerry,

> >

> > I have been taking a 300mg pill 3X a day. That is the recommended

> > dose I have found on several websites. I have read it will take 4-6

> > weeks before you will notice any change, but I'm not sure I can wait

> > that long.

> >

> > I am looking into T3 therapy, and a new doctor. I am still on a low

> > dose of T4 (75 mcg), and I just feel like crap, lol.

> >

> >

> > > > Hi Rebeccca

> > > > St 's Wort can be very effective for mild depression and T3

> can

> > > work

> > > > for severe depression - but you need the right doses in either

> > case.

> > > > I took St J's with my thyroid meds no problem - if I recall 900mcg

> > > twice

> > > > a day ( I think) - it was helpful.

> > > > Originally I was severely depresses for many years and St did

> > not

> > > > help much at all back then - I cured my depression with high dose

> > T3.

> > > I

> > > > used St john's sunsequently for mild depression and it definitely

> > > > helped.

> > > > Kerry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Anyone use St. 's wort on a 10 year old? How much?

We cannot chelate her yet and have some supplements in place. Her

moods are all over the place and she really has a hard time coping

with things. She is very stressed. I do not beleive in giving anti-

depressants from Pharma to kids. They are not tested for children. And

I do beleive her mood irregularities are a result of mercury. This

supplement has been known to assist in calming.

Not sure how much to start her on. And if anyone out there has used

this. Oh..also she is not on the spectrum.

[Guest guest]

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> Hepatitis C

> From: linswindell@...

> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:59:28 -0500

> Subject: St. 's Wort

>

>

>

>

>

> ~*~LIN~*~

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~*~LIN~*~

> Hepatitis C

> From: linswindell@...

> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:59:28 -0500

> Subject: St. 's Wort

>

>

>

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From: lin swindell <linswindell@...>

Subject: St. 's Wort

" heppers " <Hepatitis C >

Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 9:59 AM

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From: lin swindell <linswindell@...>

Subject: St. 's Wort

" heppers " <Hepatitis C >

Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 9:59 AM

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