Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From where?

[Guest guest]

Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered without a

prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or website.

I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would like to

add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to taste and her

inability to swallow a capsule.

Thanks for your help!

[Guest guest]

You can get it without a script but it comes with extras which may or may

not be desirable.

Autistique at Springboard 4health - I can;t get the link to work right now.

I beleive it has TTFD in it too and MB12 all sorts. I think Raquel used it a

while back with good effect but discontinued when she realised about the

TTFD.

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

I would love to hear about this also.

Thanks.

>

> Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered without

a

> prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or website.

> I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would like

to

> add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to taste and

her

> inability to swallow a capsule.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, we do use TD-ALA and we get it by prescription through our DAN

doctor. The script is filled at Coastal Compounding Pharmacy in

Savannah, GA, but I know that Lee Silsby Pharmacy in Cleveland also

has this product. The phone number for Coastal is 912-354-5188 and

the pharmacists that I talk to there are very nice...as well as Lee

Silsby. Great stuff in my opinion!

Kim

> >

> > Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered

without

> a

> > prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or website.

> > I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would

like

> to

> > add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to taste

and

> her

> > inability to swallow a capsule.

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Now I'm sold on it!!! I think I'll order a case!!!

Does it smell for long? If you put it on does the kid smell all day?? My

poor son has enough social issues I cannot imagine sending him to school

smelling like that combo!

Kerrie

In a message dated 2/13/2006 11:46:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

fjennings@... writes:

I don't know what TTFD smells like but this smells like combo of rotten eggs

, socks & sh*t.

NASTY...but a pretty pink color.

[Guest guest]

Do you apply this every 3 hours since its ALA or are you following the 2x

daily suggestion by the manufactor. This stuff definately has sparked my

interest.

Kerrie

In a message dated 2/14/2006 12:08:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,

fjennings@... writes:

Put it on the feet with socks & shoes over it....doesn't smell......it does

wear off though.

I just started...week-ends only like other chelators...Fri - Sunday. (Avoid

the school issue.)

(http://paulchelation.blogspot.com/)

[Guest guest]

What's the difference in cost between the 2 pharmacies?

Kim GIll <kim.gill@...> wrote: Hello, we do use TD-ALA and we get

it by prescription through our DAN

doctor. The script is filled at Coastal Compounding Pharmacy in

Savannah, GA, but I know that Lee Silsby Pharmacy in Cleveland also

has this product. The phone number for Coastal is 912-354-5188 and

the pharmacists that I talk to there are very nice...as well as Lee

Silsby. Great stuff in my opinion!

Kim

> >

> > Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered

without

> a

> > prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or website.

> > I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would

like

> to

> > add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to taste

and

> her

> > inability to swallow a capsule.

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

http://www.springboard4health.com/store/more_autistique.html

Autistique Antioxidant Body Cream

This is the only one I have found.

Lillian

fjennings@...

fldofdrms@...

[ ] Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From where?

> Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered without a

> prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or website.

> I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would like to

> add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to taste and her

> inability to swallow a capsule.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. What is TTFD? Otherwise, this product sounds good.

Autistique - has anyone used with any luck?

Thanks to all for your responses.

>

> You can get it without a script but it comes with extras which may

or may

> not be desirable.

>

> Autistique at Springboard 4health - I can;t get the link to work

right now.

>

> I beleive it has TTFD in it too and MB12 all sorts. I think Raquel

used it a

> while back with good effect but discontinued when she realised

about the

> TTFD.

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thiamin Tetrahydrofurfuryl Disulfide (vitamin B1), is the synthetic, fat

soluble form of thiamin. Thiamin plays a key role in the body's production

of energy, the digestion of carbohydrates, regulates nervous system

function, muscle and heart function, stabilizes the appetite, promotes

growth and good muscle tone. 1/4 teaspoon contains 50 mg (500 mg oral

equivalence).

fjennings@...

fldofdrms@...

[ ] Re: Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From

where?

> Thanks. What is TTFD? Otherwise, this product sounds good.

> Autistique - has anyone used with any luck?

>

> Thanks to all for your responses.

>

>

>

>>

>> You can get it without a script but it comes with extras which may

> or may

>> not be desirable.

>>

>> Autistique at Springboard 4health - I can;t get the link to work

> right now.

>>

>> I beleive it has TTFD in it too and MB12 all sorts. I think Raquel

> used it a

>> while back with good effect but discontinued when she realised

> about the

>> TTFD.

>>

>> Mandi in UK

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

The thiamine part is great but the TFD part is toxic. Actually Raquel

reported problems with it before she dropped it, but check the

archives. The problems reported from various people are yellow stools

(impaired bile flow), anger and aggression, nausea (only when the

product is applied, stops when the product is stopped, I've seen 2

separate reports of that), memory loss that returned when the product

was stopped (that was an adult report). There are less toxic ways to

get thiamine.

J

> >>

> >> You can get it without a script but it comes with extras which may

> > or may

> >> not be desirable.

> >>

> >> Autistique at Springboard 4health - I can;t get the link to work

> > right now.

> >>

> >> I beleive it has TTFD in it too and MB12 all sorts. I think Raquel

> > used it a

> >> while back with good effect but discontinued when she realised

> > about the

> >> TTFD.

> >>

> >> Mandi in UK

> >>

[Guest guest]

Does this smell as bad as TTFD?

[ ] Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From where?

> Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered without a

> prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or website.

> I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would like to

> add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to taste and her

> inability to swallow a capsule.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know what TTFD smells like but this smells like combo of rotten eggs

, socks & sh*t.

NASTY...but a pretty pink color.

Lillian

fjennings@...

fldofdrms@...

[ ] Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From

> where?

>

>

> > Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered without a

> > prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or website.

> > I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would like to

> > add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to taste and her

> > inability to swallow a capsule.

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

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[Guest guest]

Put it on the feet with socks & shoes over it....doesn't smell......it does

wear off though.

I just started...week-ends only like other chelators...Fri - Sunday. (Avoid

the school issue.)

I like low & slow....I hate yeast & mineral depleation.

Lillian

fjennings@...

fldofdrms@...

Re: [ ] Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From

where?

>

>

> Now I'm sold on it!!! I think I'll order a case!!!

>

> Does it smell for long? If you put it on does the kid smell all day??

> My

> poor son has enough social issues I cannot imagine sending him to school

> smelling like that combo!

>

>

> Kerrie

>

>

> In a message dated 2/13/2006 11:46:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> fjennings@... writes:

>

> I don't know what TTFD smells like but this smells like combo of rotten

> eggs

> , socks & sh*t.

> NASTY...but a pretty pink color.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was/still am unsure. From another list they said follow directions...I did

every 8 hours. (I just received Thursday and used Fri - Sunday) I believe its

the TTFD that is the reason for the 2x a day.

I turned down the idea of using this before because of the TTFD, but I want to

try the ALA...I tried oral ALA...crushing & putting in sipy cup (My guy is a

tough one to get orals into)....major meltdown,,,it took 2 weeks to recover &

get back on track...no trying oral again in my near future.

I am still not clear about the TTFD & the reasoning against using it...I heard

agitation & aggression. Yellow stools from problem with bile. We did not

experience any of that except an episode in Wal-Mart, but I'm blaming that on

sensory issues (It was a new Super Wal-Mart we had not been to before, we had

some kicking and screaming, but even his ABA teacher had went there too this

week end and thought it could have just been a sensory issue.... she thought the

lights, sounds, openness (sp?) & all the people were over whelming...even to

her.) If anything his BM were better as we have been battling constipation. We

were either water or rocks, these were 2x a day and just right

Anyone please feel free to chime in the negatives of TTFD

No major wows this weekend, but was more vocal then per usual ,ie is

non-verbal, we had alot of approximates for sounds & songs. More imitating

(Daddy was showing inappropriate " signs " and ie was imitating them He can

now " give the finger " and some other " bad' things) & very interested in drawing

on Magna Doodle. ie has a cold which could be masking things. No negatives

so we will use again next week end.

Lillian

fldofdrms@...

fjennings@...

Re: [ ] Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From where?

>

>

> Do you apply this every 3 hours since its ALA or are you following the 2x

> daily suggestion by the manufactor. This stuff definately has sparked my

> interest.

>

> Kerrie

>

> In a message dated 2/14/2006 12:08:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> fjennings@... writes:

>

> Put it on the feet with socks & shoes over it....doesn't smell......it does

> wear off though.

>

> I just started...week-ends only like other chelators...Fri - Sunday. (Avoid

> the school issue.)

>

>

>

>

> (http://paulchelation.blogspot.com/)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How much and how often did you try the oral ALA. I presume he has NO mercury

amalgam dental fillings. Wal-Mart is prime location for major meltdowns due to

all the fluorescent light, noises, smells, bright colors, etc.

S S

I tried oral ALA...crushing & putting in sipy cup (My guy is a tough one to get

orals into)....major meltdown,,,it took 2 weeks to recover & get back on

track...no trying oral again in my near future.<BR>

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Low & slow....every 3 hrs 3 days on 4 days off 3 rounds...my son is 3 yrs

old - 35 pounds and I dissolved the 50 mg in 50 ml of distilled water and

gave 2 ml (actually got maybe 1 ml in) every 3 hrs with yeast protocol in

place, this was not his usual yeast reaction. I am not putting down oral

ALA..but for us right now it is not he best route. When I am better able to

get it into him we will try again....his reactions could have been due to

dose, not getting complete dose every 3 hrs is my suspicions. It is

difficult to follow Andy's protocol with oral ALA so I'm opting to try the

TD route.

Lillian

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fjennings@...

Re: [ ] Does non-prescription ALA cream exist? From

where?

>

> How much and how often did you try the oral ALA. I presume he has NO

> mercury amalgam dental fillings. Wal-Mart is prime location for major

> meltdowns due to all the fluorescent light, noises, smells, bright colors,

> etc.

> S S

>

>

>

>

>

> I tried oral ALA...crushing & putting in sipy cup (My guy is a tough one

> to get orals into)....major meltdown,,,it took 2 weeks to recover & get

> back on track...no trying oral again in my near future.<BR>

>

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[Guest guest]

Good question, I am not sure about the answer. I do know, however,

that we used TD-DMSA from both coastal and lee silsby pharmacies.

The Coastal TD-DMSA was much cheaper, but we couldnt handle the

smell...it was the most awful thing I have ever smelt before. We

could smell it in the box at the curb where the postal employee left

it. YUCK! We switched to Lee silbsy's td-dmsa which has relatively

no smell.....but it very expensive.

I know that you asked about ALA and not DMSA. The point is...I did

not compare prices of ALA with both pharmiacies, we only used coastal

for the TD-ALA. But, if Lee Silsby's dmsa was more expensive, I

would assume their ala would be as well.

Kim

> > >

> > > Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be ordered

> without

> > a

> > > prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or

website.

> > > I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and would

> like

> > to

> > > add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to

taste

> and

> > her

> > > inability to swallow a capsule.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help!

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

We are using the TD-DMSA from Lee Silsby. We've done one round

already, and the smell didn't bother me. I'm glad that my doctor

uses them then! Wow, if it smelled as bad as you say the other

does, it would have been very discouraging. The problem I have is

that my daughter's DAN doctor won't authorize ALA right now... she

said that it causes yeast and she implied too that she's not 100%

convinced that DMSA alone won't do the job. She said that we can

introduce ALA after several rounds, but to be used on the off days.

Does that make sense to you? Anyway, so for that reason, I've been

acquiring about the non-script ALA cream. I may wait a few rounds

and then ask her again to prescribe ALA. We'll see...

Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation? Can it be

ordered

> > without

> > > a

> > > > prescription? If so, please provide any pharmacy info or

> website.

> > > > I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and

would

> > like

> > > to

> > > > add ALA as well. Using the oral is not an option due to

> taste

> > and

> > > her

> > > > inability to swallow a capsule.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your help!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

She may not understand the low/slow dosing Andy Cutler recommends. If she

continues to refuse you can get the oral version OTC.

S S

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Kim,<BR>

We are using the TD-DMSA from Lee Silsby.  We've done one round <BR>

already, and the smell didn't bother me.  I'm glad that my doctor <BR>

uses them then!  Wow, if it smelled as bad as you say the other <BR>

does, it would have been very discouraging.  The problem I have is <BR>

that my daughter's DAN doctor won't authorize ALA right now... she <BR>

said that it causes yeast and she implied too that she's not 100% <BR>

convinced that DMSA alone won't do the job.  She said that we can <BR>

introduce ALA after several rounds, but to be used on the off days.  <BR>

Does that make sense to you?  Anyway, so for that reason, I've been <BR>

acquiring about the non-script ALA cream.  I may wait a few rounds <BR>

and then ask her again to prescribe ALA.  We'll see...<BR>

<BR>

Thanks!<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

> >   > ><BR>

> >   > > Is anyone using ALA cream for chelation?  Can it be <BR>

ordered <BR>

> >   without <BR>

> >   > a <BR>

> >   > > prescription?  If so, please provide any pharmacy info or <BR>

> website.<BR>

> >   > > I'm using the DMSA cream for my 3 year old daughter and <BR>

would <BR>

> >   like <BR>

> >   > to <BR>

> >   > > add ALA as well.  Using the oral is not an option due to <BR>

> taste <BR>

> >   and <BR>

> >   > her <BR>

> >   > > inability to swallow a capsule.<BR>

> >   > > <BR>

> >   > > Thanks for your help!<BR>

> >   > > <BR>

> >   > ><BR>

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