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I feel for you my daughter was not trained till 7 years old. I don't know what

to do about the BM in the sleep thing. Can you check him and clean him up in

his sleep? I know you certainly don;t want to do that forever but a lot of

times these kids go through something and then it passes, I wonder if he is

purposely not going and holding it in then going where he can have some

privacy. My friends son used to do this. Good luck to you Love Jen

lmleba <rasmussen.lisa@...> wrote: I have a 6 year old autistic son

who I cannot bm potty train. We have

the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to struggle. He's

had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very seldom

has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after he

falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

Please offer me any suggestions.

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A friend of mine's son had a similar problem. He wasn't ASD, but he had horrible

constipation for years and refused to go on the toilet (bm's) because he

associated them with pain. Eventually he too only " pooped " in his sleep. Are you

giving any magnesium? Is this every night....are they regular bm's? Does he

actively avoid the potty when he has to have a bm? If so, it might be fear

based. I'll try to find out how my friend remedied the situation and let you

know. Sorry :(

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> I have a 6 year old autistic son who I cannot bm potty train. We have

> the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to struggle. He's

> had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very seldom

> has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after he

> falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

> Please offer me any suggestions.

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The mantra in our house was:

If you feel you gotta go potty...stop what you're doing....walk to the

bathroom...and go pee pee and pooh pooh on the potty.

Are you at a point where he will wear big boy underwear yet?

[ ] potty training and autism

I have a 6 year old autistic son who I cannot bm potty train. We have

the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to struggle. He's

had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very seldom

has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after he

falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

Please offer me any suggestions.

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> I have a 6 year old autistic son who I cannot bm potty train. We have

> the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to struggle.

He's

> had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very seldom

> has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after he

> falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

> Please offer me any suggestions.

You could try giving him a pull up during the day if you feel or if he

tells you he needs to go. I did that with my son for some time. He was

potty trained for urine but not BM. He requested the diaper, pooped,

then back into underware.

He became overnight potty trained after we found out he had stool

impaction (through X-Ray) and solved it. There was no clue he had

impaction since he had no signs of constipation and was going everyday.

Good luck!

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Is he holding back? Many children with a history of constipation or

toilet troubles hold back the bowel movement. Then of course, once

they are asleep nature takes over and they finally go.

My son is younger but the poop on the potty thing is a no way hosay!

He poops fine in his pull up. Just doesn't like the issue of the

toilet at all. I wish I had an easy answer for you. Just try to

figure out the reason he dislikes the toilet. Let him know it is ok

to signal or ask for a pull up to go (if he can). I am sure you

already tried bribes. Ever tried not buying the pull ups? I know my

son detests the poopy underwear. Provide comfort for the potty, soft

cushy seat, stool for his feet, a few books nearby. Not to mention

being woken up to change the poop after he goes to bed might be a

bit of an inconvenience for him and he may decide to try the toilet.

I would wake him and change him each time. I know my son would be

raw if he slept in it. Diaper (that is what pull ups really are)

need to inconvenient. If they are too easy, there is no incentive.

You may have already tried all these things, I just offer a few

suggestions in hopes to help.

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> The mantra in our house was:

>

> If you feel you gotta go potty...stop what you're doing....walk to

the bathroom...and go pee pee and pooh pooh on the potty.

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> Are you at a point where he will wear big boy underwear yet?

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> I have a 6 year old autistic son who I cannot bm potty train. We

have

> the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to

struggle. He's

> had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very

seldom

> has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after

he

> falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

> Please offer me any suggestions.

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Yes, he wears big boy underwear during the day and he's fine. We've done

underwear a

few times at night and what a mess! I think the issue is he relaxes so much when

he goes

to sleep that he can't help it.

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thanks for the info. I think part of it is fear because he thinks it will hurt.

He does take

magnesium and his bm's are soft most of the time. When he was 3, he saw a

pediatric

gastro md and he confirmed nothing was " physically " wrong. I am wondering if I

need a

second opinion.

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> I have a 6 year old autistic son who I cannot bm potty train. We have

> the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to struggle. He's

> had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very seldom

> has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after he

> falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

Try giving him lots of magnesium and/or vitamin C in the morning.

This should force a bm earlier in the day, when you can watch for

signs that he needs to go, and bring him to the toilet.

Dana

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Thanks for the advice. I have him on magnesium and vitamin C but mainly at

night. I will try more in the morning. He take a vitamin/mineral supplement

loaded with great stuff! When I've tried to load him before, he just has

accidents in his underwear (small ones). I'll try it again. It's just really

tough when he's in school-I don't want him to walk around with " poopy pants " and

kids make fun of him.

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> I have a 6 year old autistic son who I cannot bm potty train. We have

> the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to struggle. He's

> had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very seldom

> has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after he

> falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

Try giving him lots of magnesium and/or vitamin C in the morning.

This should force a bm earlier in the day, when you can watch for

signs that he needs to go, and bring him to the toilet.

Dana

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Try this on the weekend, or during school break to avoid the " poopy

pants at school " thing

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> > I have a 6 year old autistic son who I cannot bm potty train. We

have

> > the urine figured out (2 years ago) but we continue to

struggle. He's

> > had history of constipation but that is mostly gone. He very

seldom

> > has a bm on the potty. He wears a pull up, about an hour after

he

> > falls asleep, he " poops " , never waking up until the morning?

>

>

> Try giving him lots of magnesium and/or vitamin C in the morning.

> This should force a bm earlier in the day, when you can watch for

> signs that he needs to go, and bring him to the toilet.

>

> Dana

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