Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 gary, thanks for posting your experiences with it. my doc recently prescribed it for me. he tells me i'm carrying " too high a toxic load " to handle normal chelating, and his kinesiology testing says i won't tolerate dmsa, and he says i'm too ill to even have my amalgams removed, and i've had severe symptoms from things like chlorella. so he says this cellular defense may be one of few things i can use right now. when i asked the nurse the cost, she said $70 for the 15ml bottle! i said, seriously, are you kidding? i did not buy it from him. i did buy one bottle on web at $50, but haven't tried it yet. i've had an enormously challenging week, been in ER to rule out heart attack, possible lung problems, cat scan, more testing, etc. regarding cost, i discovered on web that for a one-time fee of $9.95 (it's supposed to be once for your lifetime), you can become a preferred member and buy the cellular defense at wholesale price, which comes to $35 per bottle instead of $50 per bottle. so on 4 bottles you save $60. (it still seems $35 is outrageously priced for only 15ML!) as preferred member you are not buying into all the multilevel distributor stuff, and at least paying some less. may all beings be well! kendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 You are welcome. Also thanks for the distributor info. I need to reorder NCD monday so I'll sign up for the preferred member. Good luck with the chelation. You might consider doing them down the back of your throat since you have amalgams. Also I know people with amalgams that have great relief just from swishing with a few drops of NDF and then rinsing really well, and not swallowing any. Hopefully you can have your amalgams out soon. Cheers, _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kendra Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:59 PM ; gary@... Subject: RE: [ ] Waiora Drops, price gary, thanks for posting your experiences with it. my doc recently prescribed it for me. he tells me i'm carrying " too high a toxic load " to handle normal chelating, and his kinesiology testing says i won't tolerate dmsa, and he says i'm too ill to even have my amalgams removed, and i've had severe symptoms from things like chlorella. so he says this cellular defense may be one of few things i can use right now. when i asked the nurse the cost, she said $70 for the 15ml bottle! i said, seriously, are you kidding? i did not buy it from him. i did buy one bottle on web at $50, but haven't tried it yet. i've had an enormously challenging week, been in ER to rule out heart attack, possible lung problems, cat scan, more testing, etc. regarding cost, i discovered on web that for a one-time fee of $9.95 (it's supposed to be once for your lifetime), you can become a preferred member and buy the cellular defense at wholesale price, which comes to $35 per bottle instead of $50 per bottle. so on 4 bottles you save $60. (it still seems $35 is outrageously priced for only 15ML!) as preferred member you are not buying into all the multilevel distributor stuff, and at least paying some less. may all beings be well! kendra ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Could you tell me that web site where it is cheaper. Gail RE: [ ] Waiora Drops, price gary, thanks for posting your experiences with it. my doc recently prescribed it for me. he tells me i'm carrying " too high a toxic load " to handle normal chelating, and his kinesiology testing says i won't tolerate dmsa, and he says i'm too ill to even have my amalgams removed, and i've had severe symptoms from things like chlorella. so he says this cellular defense may be one of few things i can use right now. when i asked the nurse the cost, she said $70 for the 15ml bottle! i said, seriously, are you kidding? i did not buy it from him. i did buy one bottle on web at $50, but haven't tried it yet. i've had an enormously challenging week, been in ER to rule out heart attack, possible lung problems, cat scan, more testing, etc. regarding cost, i discovered on web that for a one-time fee of $9.95 (it's supposed to be once for your lifetime), you can become a preferred member and buy the cellular defense at wholesale price, which comes to $35 per bottle instead of $50 per bottle. so on 4 bottles you save $60. (it still seems $35 is outrageously priced for only 15ML!) as preferred member you are not buying into all the multilevel distributor stuff, and at least paying some less. may all beings be well! kendra ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Hi , You can try our Master Tole. Please read http://www.thetole.com Thanks Assistant of World Renow Master Tole Quoting Gail and Bob Brown <gailsacelaris@...>: > > > > > Could you tell me that web site where it is cheaper. > > > > Gail > > RE: [ ] Waiora Drops, price > > > > > > gary, thanks for posting your experiences with it. my doc recently > > prescribed it for me. he tells me i'm carrying " too high a toxic > load " to > > handle normal chelating, and his kinesiology testing says i won't > tolerate > > dmsa, and he says i'm too ill to even have my amalgams removed, and > i've had > > severe symptoms from things like chlorella. so he says this cellular > defense > > may be one of few things i can use right now. when i asked the nurse > the > > cost, she said $70 for the 15ml bottle! i said, seriously, are you > kidding? > > i did not buy it from him. i did buy one bottle on web at $50, but > haven't > > tried it yet. i've had an enormously challenging week, been in ER to > rule > > out heart attack, possible lung problems, cat scan, more testing, > etc. > > > > regarding cost, i discovered on web that for a one-time fee of $9.95 > (it's > > supposed to be once for your lifetime), you can become a preferred > member > > and buy the cellular defense at wholesale price, which comes to $35 > per > > bottle instead of $50 per bottle. so on 4 bottles you save $60. (it > still > > seems $35 is outrageously priced for only 15ML!) as preferred member > you are > > not buying into all the multilevel distributor stuff, and at least > paying > > some less. > > > > may all beings be well! > > kendra > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 > > Good luck with the chelation. You might consider doing them down the back of > your throat since you have amalgams. Also I know people with amalgams that > have great relief just from swishing with a few drops of NDF and then > rinsing really well, and not swallowing any. Taking any kind of chelator with amalgams in is a really bad idea. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 If you swish NDF in your mouth with amalgams, like said, it will soak up the mercury vapor. YOu then spit it in the sink, without swallowing. This is very safe for anyone with amalgams. I know there is a lot of bad talk about chelating with amalgams. I did the IV EDTA when I had amalgams and am really glad I did. I was so weak I could barely function. After chelating, I could function again. THen I was able to remove even more of my amalgams. I know many disagree with this, but this was my experience. My best, Tami W Gavin's mom > > > > > Good luck with the chelation. You might consider doing them down the > back of > > your throat since you have amalgams. Also I know people with > amalgams that > > have great relief just from swishing with a few drops of NDF and then > > rinsing really well, and not swallowing any. > > Taking any kind of chelator with amalgams in is a really bad idea. > > Nell > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 > > Good luck with the chelation. You might consider doing them down the > back of > > your throat since you have amalgams. Also I know people with > amalgams that > > have great relief just from swishing with a few drops of NDF and then > > rinsing really well, and not swallowing any. > > Taking any kind of chelator with amalgams in is a really bad idea. I agree, but maybe in this case it doesn't matter. I am still not convinced that this is a chelator. Maybe the relief comes from something else it does, and not from chelating heavy metals. Btw, is it NDF or NCD? Which one are we talking about here? I thought it's Natural Cellular Defense, so NCD. Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 She was going to try NCD (Waiora Natural Cellular Defense), so I suggested doing them down the back of her throat. I also mentioned NDF (Bioray's Nanocolloidal Detox Factors, a different ion exchange chelator) and that she might want to swish with it and spit it out, as this binds mercury coming off the amalgams and reduces the load swallowed in saliva. I have seen people have amazing results and sometimes feel better in 5 minutes doing this. You might be able to swish with NCD too, but when I tried it there was no effect like NDF (I no longer have amalgams but I can still feel an effect just swishing my gums with NDF or NDF+). Swallowing NCD is the only way it has any effect for me. Cheers, _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Valentina Scharpf Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Waiora Drops, price > > Good luck with the chelation. You might consider doing them down the > back of > > your throat since you have amalgams. Also I know people with > amalgams that > > have great relief just from swishing with a few drops of NDF and then > > rinsing really well, and not swallowing any. > > Taking any kind of chelator with amalgams in is a really bad idea. I agree, but maybe in this case it doesn't matter. I am still not convinced that this is a chelator. Maybe the relief comes from something else it does, and not from chelating heavy metals. Btw, is it NDF or NCD? Which one are we talking about here? I thought it's Natural Cellular Defense, so NCD. Valentina ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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