Re: 3/4 chelation or 3/11 chelation

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> What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11 or the other way

around?

> Because a child is small and NT yet toxic, would you choose

3/11? Why? Thanks!

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if you do a round each week (3 on, 4 off) the advantage is

that you get more chelation done sooner.

if you do a round every other week (3 on, 11 off) the advantage

is that your child has more recovery time, is taking chelation

agents less often, and has a longer period in between (which

you might want for any number of reasons).

What I personally did was to do chelation every week ( " 3/4 " )

unless there was some reason to skip a week. There were

many weeks when I skipped -- sometimes due to travel, or

illness, for example.

I don't see any reason that you would need to decide on one

or the other of these ahead of time. I would suggest seeing

how you feel about it as you go along. I can think of lots

of things that might or might not affect the decision.

Something as simple as needing more time to catch up on

sleep might be an issue for some people (and not others).

good wishes,

Moria

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> What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11 or the other way around?

Pro for 3/4: chelation is faster and will be over with sooner. Cons:

may make yeast worse, the child may need a longer recovery period

between rounds, everyone gets too tired.

What I do is something in between. So I'll do 3/4 for 3 or 4 weeks,

then skip a week to regroup. You can kind of split the difference.

Nell

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> What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11 or the other way around?

> Because a child is small and NT yet toxic, would you choose 3/11? Why?

I would choose 3/11 if the child would have high cysteine.

Valentina

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In a message dated 11/02/2006 20:02:15 GMT Standard Time,

mloulourgas@... writes:

How does one know when yeast has gotten unmanageable?

>>>The child is unmanagable with behaviours or very poorly with it - acting

drunk, rashes, lets just say you'll know it when you see it LOL - NOT!!!

Mandi in UK

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We did 3/4 for the first year and took a breather after about 8 months. But

our son's RBC minerals got too low, so we decided to go 3/11 from then on.

Barb

[ ] Re: 3/4 chelation or 3/11 chelation

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>> What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11 or the other way around?

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> Pro for 3/4: chelation is faster and will be over with sooner. Cons:

> may make yeast worse, the child may need a longer recovery period

> between rounds, everyone gets too tired.

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> What I do is something in between. So I'll do 3/4 for 3 or 4 weeks,

> then skip a week to regroup. You can kind of split the difference.

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> Nell

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> What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11 or the other way

around?

> Because a child is small and NT yet toxic, would you choose 3/11?

Why? Thanks!

I chose low dose of chelator and 3/4 schedule because I wanted the

metals OUT. I only went to 3/11 for a round or two if my son's yeast

got unmanageable, or if he was sick.

Dana

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How does one know when yeast has gotten unmanageable?

Thanks to all that answered this question - even though I hadn't

posted it myself, I was wondering the same thing and will be beginning

chelation on my daughter next week!

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> > What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11 or the other way

> around?

> > Because a child is small and NT yet toxic, would you choose 3/11?

> Why? Thanks!

>

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> I chose low dose of chelator and 3/4 schedule because I wanted the

> metals OUT. I only went to 3/11 for a round or two if my son's yeast

> got unmanageable, or if he was sick.

>

> Dana

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> How does one know when yeast has gotten unmanageable?

For my kids, their behavior is unmanageable, lol. Night waking,

totally unreasonable, lose their tempers at *anything, my daughter

gets very weepy and constipated and wets the bed. It's not pretty.

Nell

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Others have said their kids act drunk.

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> How does one know when yeast has gotten unmanageable?  <BR>

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For my kids, their behavior is unmanageable, lol. Night waking,<BR>

totally unreasonable, lose their tempers at *anything, my daughter<BR>

gets very weepy and constipated and wets the bed. It's not pretty.<BR>

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Nell<BR>

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> How does one know when yeast has gotten unmanageable?

My son would be giggly, hyper, spin himself, lose language, and have

severe visual stims. And GSE/No-Fenol would not be sufficient to

eliminate it.

Dana

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Can we not do something in between like 3on 6off or 3

on 7off. is there a reason that we cannot chose the

number of off days based on how soon the chidl

regroups?

-Kajuk

--- Loulourgas <mloulourgas@...> wrote:

> How does one know when yeast has gotten

> unmanageable?

> Thanks to all that answered this question - even

> though I hadn't

> posted it myself, I was wondering the same thing and

> will be beginning

> chelation on my daughter next week!

>

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> > > What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11

> or the other way

> > around?

> > > Because a child is small and NT yet toxic, would

> you choose 3/11?

> > Why? Thanks!

> >

> >

> > I chose low dose of chelator and 3/4 schedule

> because I wanted the

> > metals OUT. I only went to 3/11 for a round or

> two if my son's yeast

> > got unmanageable, or if he was sick.

> >

> > Dana

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I've heard that it's fine to do that... so long as it's 3 days on

and at least the same number of days off. 3/4 or 3/11 just

coincides with weekends which are more convenient for people.

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> > > > What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11

> > or the other way

> > > around?

> > > > Because a child is small and NT yet toxic, would

> > you choose 3/11?

> > > Why? Thanks!

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> > > I chose low dose of chelator and 3/4 schedule

> > because I wanted the

> > > metals OUT. I only went to 3/11 for a round or

> > two if my son's yeast

> > > got unmanageable, or if he was sick.

> > >

> > > Dana

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Kajuk,

My son's chelation schedule would look like this: 4.5 on/6 off; 5

on/9 off, 3.5 on/5.5 off, etc. In other words, we do what fits for

him. He seems to do better with longer rounds and I would dearly

love to get this over with so we try to do the longer rounds. I

think the only rule you need to follow is to make sure you have at

least as much time OFF as you do ON. Other than that, make it fit

your child and you.

Anita

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> Can we not do something in between like 3on 6off or 3

> on 7off. is there a reason that we cannot chose the

> number of off days based on how soon the chidl

> regroups?

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> -Kajuk

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I agree with Anita - I should have said AT LEAST 3 days on..

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> > > > > What are the reasons to choose a 3/4 over 3/11

> > > or the other way

> > > > around?

> > > > > Because a child is small and NT yet toxic, would

> > > you choose 3/11?

> > > > Why? Thanks!

> > > >

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> > > > I chose low dose of chelator and 3/4 schedule

> > > because I wanted the

> > > > metals OUT. I only went to 3/11 for a round or

> > > two if my son's yeast

> > > > got unmanageable, or if he was sick.

> > > >

> > > > Dana

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Oh, yes, the other rule is at least 3 on. Good thing there's lots

of us on this board. The details are many.

Anita

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> > Can we not do something in between like 3on 6off or 3

> > on 7off. is there a reason that we cannot chose the

> > number of off days based on how soon the chidl

> > regroups?

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> > -Kajuk

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Kujak,

Yes, you can do another combination of number of days on and off. The important

thing is to do more days and nights off than days and nights on. Many just

choose to do 3/4 or 3/11 so they can chelate on weekends particularly if the

person chelating is in school or working a M-F work week.

S S

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on 7off. is there a reason that we cannot chose the<BR>

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-Kajuk <BR>

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